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Old 06-21-2012, 02:31 PM
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You will need to order that cable as well as the 6NR retrofit cable... the p/n for the USB cable is 61119202749, it's supposed to be 7' long, when I got mine it was 5' and I had to splice in 2' to make it fit... running the USB cable is a big job!! you will need to remove the trunk liner, back seat, front seats, center console and the rear carpet...

I think what the aftermarket guys are doing is moving the USB cable on the COMBOX to the other port, then car then thinks your USB/AV is now the baseplate.

The aftermarket way is the simpler way to go (I wanted my car to be same as factory)... your baseplate should also have 3 leads coming from it (see attached pic) the lead with the blue end is the USB.. If it doesn't then your baseplate won't support USB...
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Old 06-21-2012, 03:44 PM
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No I do not have the blue usb cable so my baseplate does not support the usb connection. I would have to install the cable, change the baseplate and then change my iphone 4 snap-in adapter that I purchased. I'm not sure how expensive this would work out.

I just looked up 61119202749 on realoem and it isn't listed as a part for the F10. Perhaps this is why it wasn't the correct length for your car? I will do some research in the morning to find out the cost for the replacement base plate, usb cable and replacement snap-in adapter and work out if I want to go this route bearing in mind I still need to pay for the FSC code and coding.

Like you say the aftermarket option where they change the wiring to fool the car into believing the replaced USB/AUX connector is the baseplate may be the best way for me to go. It also provides some additional flexibility in that (whilst stationary) I can hold and use the phone easier than in the snap-in. This is important for me because I intend to be able to use some jailbreak tweaks to watch things like bbc iplayer or use my plex client and have mobile tv in the car. This is of course for when I'm stationary.

I guess I'll have to make a choice on which may I want to go with this.

Thanks for your help

EDIT: One final question, what the p/n for the baseplate in the pic?

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Old 06-21-2012, 04:10 PM
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I ordered the same baseplate that is in my Countryman, don't remember p/n, I found this on another forum....

For 6NR you need:

84 10 9 243 209 - base plate
61 11 9 202 749 - usb cable, 2.5 meters from plate to combox
61 11 9 200 890 - cvbs cable 1.0 meter from plate to CIC
84 21 2 218 390 - iphone 4 media cradle compatible with BMW Apps
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Old 07-03-2012, 02:11 PM
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Not sure where anyone is with their project, but in case it helps, this is the part number of my baseplate - a car installed from factory with 6FL, 6NF & 6NR as well as the usb/aux socket.

baseplate 84109220651
usb/aux 84109237654
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Old 07-04-2012, 02:46 AM
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I've given up with trying to perform this upgrade myself as I will always have a requirement for the FSC code. I'm purchased the retrofit kit from bimmer tech.
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Old 07-04-2012, 04:58 AM
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I've given up with trying to perform this upgrade myself as I will always have a requirement for the FSC code. I'm purchased the retrofit kit from bimmer tech.
Expensive, but at least you will have it done professionally. Are they sending you the parts and coding it remotely, or do you need to bring you car into a BimmerTech UK dealer shop?
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:06 AM
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Expensive, but at least you will have it done professionally. Are they sending you the parts and coding it remotely, or do you need to bring you car into a BimmerTech UK dealer shop?
Yes, I have received the parts and I'm now waiting for instructions on how to install them. Once this is done the car will be coded remotely. It is an expensive option but it was something that I should have included with the car but for various reasons didnt. I would have preferred to do this myself but given my limited knowledge in this instance I was happy to pay. Once this is done I will feel that the car is complete.

If anyone on the forums knows how to install the hardware components and is willing to share I'd be grateful for that information ... at the moment I'm still waiting for Patryk to get back to me on this.
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Old 07-04-2012, 06:40 AM
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Yes, I have received the parts and I'm now waiting for instructions on how to install them. Once this is done the car will be coded remotely. It is an expensive option but it was something that I should have included with the car but for various reasons didnt. I would have preferred to do this myself but given my limited knowledge in this instance I was happy to pay. Once this is done I will feel that the car is complete.

If anyone on the forums knows how to install the hardware components and is willing to share I'd be grateful for that information ... at the moment I'm still waiting for Patryk to get back to me on this.
I think mjgood can help you in that regard.
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Old 07-04-2012, 07:16 AM
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I would have thought the kit would have instructions with it, I think they are some kind of closely guarded secret :roll eyes:

I'm guessing the kit has the wiring from the USB/AV to the CIC, and a USB/AV to replace the USB/AUX..

...and you might need to move the USB cable to the other port on the COMBOX... If so then you'll need to trim part of the connector since it's keyed different.

hardest part will be removing the CIC (not really all that hard), when I get to my Windows machine I'll see if I can print out the removal procedure from ISTA-D...
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Old 07-04-2012, 07:21 AM
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I would have thought the kit would have instructions with it, I think they are some kind of closely guarded secret :roll eyes:

I'm guessing the kit has the wiring from the USB/AV to the CIC, and a USB/AV to replace the USB/AUX..

...and you might need to move the USB cable to the other port on the COMBOX... If so then you'll need to trim part of the connector since it's keyed different.

hardest part will be removing the CIC (not really all that hard), when I get to my Windows machine I'll see if I can print out the removal procedure from ISTA-D...
Malcom, you have an ISTA/D and ISTA/P setup? Standalone or full ISIS?
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Old 07-04-2012, 08:20 AM
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I have both on VMWare, ISTA-D running 46.0 and ISTA-P running 46.3... both stand alone with 9000+ days before expire... what I really would like is an ICOM, but I'm hesitant to by the clone and can't afford the BMW...

right now I just get into ISTA-D for the removal procedures...
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I have both on VMWare, ISTA-D running 46.0 and ISTA-P running 46.3... both stand alone with 9000+ days before expire... what I really would like is an ICOM, but I'm hesitant to by the clone and can't afford the BMW...

right now I just get into ISTA-D for the removal procedures...
Can you use E-net at all, or you must have ICOM? What about an ICOM Emulator?
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Old 07-04-2012, 01:13 PM
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@shawnseridan

I tried the get the ENET to work without any luck, although I didn't put a great amount of effort into it... Darksys is the guy with the emulator, It didn't support programming just diagnostics, It's been a few months since I last checked and I think he was working on an emulator that would allow programming...
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@mjgood; Was the emulator considerably cheaper than the Chinese ICOM clone, which I have seen running about $700 USD?
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@mjgood; Was the emulator considerably cheaper than the Chinese ICOM clone, which I have seen running about $700 USD?
$150.... I sent an email to your gmail with more details.....
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$150.... I sent an email to your gmail with more details.....
Got it. Thanks!
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I have installed the 6FL and 6NR options from BimmerTech. Everythings seems to work except video
I have the sound from the video in my car, but no picture???
It worked once, after I had tryed a lot of times with different things (do not know what) but now I cannot see the picture at all.
What could be the problem?.

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I have installed the 6FL and 6NR options from BimmerTech. Everythings seems to work except video
I have the sound from the video in my car, but no picture???
It worked once, after I had tryed a lot of times with different things (do not know what) but now I cannot see the picture at all.
What could be the problem?.

Joacim
Hi,

I'm sorry I can't really help with this problem. The only things I ca n suggest is that you are definitely using the Y-Cable but I'm sure you are. Did you install the hardware components yourself?
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I have installed the 6FL and 6NR options from BimmerTech. Everythings seems to work except video
I have the sound from the video in my car, but no picture???
It worked once, after I had tryed a lot of times with different things (do not know what) but now I cannot see the picture at all.
What could be the problem?.

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I'll assume the wiring is correct from 6FL to the Combox and CIC.

Did you add 6FL, 6NR, and 6NF to the VO, and then CODE (Not FDL Code) the Combox and CIC?

Did BimmerTech provide the 6NR FSC Code, and was it loaded and activated in the CIC?

I thought when you purchased the retrofit from BimmerTech, that included their coding it?
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it would be nice to know about the results from both "joafog" and "grigz95".
Did you fix your retrofits?

especially the answer on the questions from shawn:

Did you add 6FL, 6NR, and 6NF to the VO, and then CODE (Not FDL Code) the Combox and CIC?

Did BimmerTech provide the 6NR FSC Code, and was it loaded and activated in the CIC?

I thought when you purchased the retrofit from BimmerTech, that included their coding it?

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Everything works as it should. Bimmertech is also coding everything

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Just in case anyone is not aware, you can without 6NF and just the stock 6FL USB Port, order the 6NR FSC Code and import and activate it, code 6NR, and have functional BMW Apps, albeit without the additional Video / PlugIn functionality provided by having a video port.

So, if all you care about is Web Radio, Pandora, Mog, Aupeo, Stitcher, Facebook, Twitter, etc., you DO NOT need to add 6NF Ejector Box or the Mini USB Port.
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but combox is still required? or not?
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Old 09-23-2012, 11:16 AM
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but combox is still required? or not?
Good question. Surprisingly, it seems not according to this:

Product Planning & Strategy Bulletin
BMW Apps (option 6NR)
February 18, 2011

Availability
03/11 production for all car models
04/11 production for all X models

Ordering Requirements
The following features must be ordered to add option 6NR: 609 – Navigation with iDrive 639 – BMW Assist 6FL – iPod and USB adapter Note: For the X3, option 6NL (BMW Assist with enhanced Bluetooth


I have done it in my car, which is a 10/10 build, so it does have Combox, but is pre 03/11 production.
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hmm ok... but with 639 BMW Assist you have the Combox Telematik in the car... so it looks like it have to be a combox there.
How i know the Combox replaced the MULF in 09/10.
Did you order your FSC by the dealer? Where they able to order it?
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