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Old 06-21-2012, 06:23 AM
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problems after waxing

here is what I did,

1. wash car
2. dry
3. apply wax
4. wipe off after the wax is dry (I did this 20m after I applied wax)

the problem is the surface is not uniform. It seems there are a lot of wax on the car. It has been a few days since I did the wax job. What shall I do now? wash again and then use a microfiber cloth to wipe off the wax? I think I applied too much wax.

Any suggestions will be appreciated. Thanks.
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:39 AM
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Or you waited to long. Apply wax one small area at a time and buff when the wax comes to a haze.
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Old 06-21-2012, 06:53 AM
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sounds like you put too much wax on. detailing spray and a mf tower should take it off.

you want the barest haze of wax when you apply, 2 oz should do an entire car.
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Old 06-21-2012, 07:35 AM
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thank you both. What shall I do now?

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sounds like you put too much wax on. detailing spray and a mf tower should take it off.

you want the barest haze of wax when you apply, 2 oz should do an entire car.
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Old 06-21-2012, 07:36 AM
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do you mean I should wash, do some polish spray and then wipe the wax off?


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sounds like you put too much wax on. detailing spray and a mf tower should take it off.

you want the barest haze of wax when you apply, 2 oz should do an entire car.
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Old 06-21-2012, 07:38 AM
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A good hand wash should fix it, then maybe a re wax
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Old 06-21-2012, 10:09 AM
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First of all, we don't even know what the OP means by "wax." Are you talking about a carnauba-based paste wax? In that case, I wouldn't do anything because all the build up will be gone (along with most of the protection) in a few weeks.

Are you talking about a polymer sealant like Megs NXT? Again, that will pretty much go away on its own in time. And, at this point, something like a detailing spray isn't going to accomplish much.

The proper way to apply and buff depends greatly on the actual product you are using.

In my experience, btw, most of these sort of issues have less to do with how much product is applied and more to do with prep. Most polymer sealant kinds of products need a squeaky clean painted surface, and washing alone is not going to accomplish that. You really need to break out the claybar. Also, going over the paint with a good chemical cleaner, like Klasse all-in-one, is another pivotal step.

BTW, many over the counter "waxes" and sealants actually have mild abrasives from cleaning. So, if you add another layer, you'll just remove the earlier layer as well as do some micro damage to your paint.

Anyway, this site has a nice detailing forum that you might consider visiting.
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Old 06-21-2012, 02:46 PM
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KT has offered good info. I agree that it's helpful to know the exact products you're using. It's well known in the detailing world that using too much product is one of the most common if not most common beginner mistakes. And it's true that different products call for more than some others. With my current sealant-wax (it's sorta both), I aim to use only 1/3 oz (as directed by top pros, IIRC). I think I fill a 2oz about halfway, and aim to use a bit less than half of that, or something like that.

Anyway, while it's true that the wax will eventually die off, if you're impatient, you can use start with Chemical Guys Citrus wash at wax-stripping dilution (a foam gun can be helpful too here), or Dawn dish soap at the possible expense of drying out some rubber trim. You would be advised to do at least a double wash with a fresh coat of super thick wax. After that, you can keep going a bit with paint cleaner, clay, etc.

I agree that detailing spray won't do much, in fact, it may just bolster the current barrier. A regular wash won't do jack either.
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:46 PM
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1. Wash with a detergent like Dawn to remove as much of the wax as possible.
2. Dry
3. Clay
4. Polish
5. Wax. Carnauba if your car is dark, Ultimate Wax othewrise. As Kilgore states, not all "wax" has actual wax, but any last applied product is often generically referred to as "wax."
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I don't wax my own car anymore...too much effort at my age. I seek out "charity" car washes in my local area, and usually the girls will give me a wax for a few extra bucks...it's all for a good cause. Quite frankly, they don't do a good job, but for the hour or so that I watch them do it...it's worth every penny.

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Do the resulting swirlies give you pleasant memories?
On a good day, MUCH more than that. I'm at the stage where I'll trade "swirlies" for "girlies" anytime. The hell with the paint...it's an E90 rental!.
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Insult to my "wax" girls! Uncalled for. I did in fact give them a "minimum intelligence test" as they were quite familiar with luxury cars. I asked them if "long cranking" would be an indication of HPFP failure? In unison they replied: "No, that would be an indication of a "good partner." They still do a lousy job.
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As others here have said, knowing what products you used will help much.

Personally, I never jump into wax directly after washing and drying the car.

After using a soap like Chemical Guys Citrus Wash at its higher concentration, I follow with a good paint cleanser like P21S, then a paint sealer like BlackFire Wet Diamond or Wolfgang 3.0 Deep Paint Sealant. Then and only then, do I apply a very thin coat of Carnauba Wax (ie DODO White Diamond or the like) and jewel it with a Porter Cable or similar to make sure it's a very thin, uniform application.

Tell us what you used and we can maybe help you.
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I don't wax my own car anymore...too much effort at my age. I seek out "charity" car washes in my local area, and usually the girls will give me a wax for a few extra bucks...it's all for a good cause. Quite frankly, they don't do a good job, but for the hour or so that I watch them do it...it's worth every penny.

Do you get them to do your car afterwards?
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As others here have said, knowing what products you used will help much.

Personally, I never jump into wax directly after washing and drying the car.

After using a soap like Chemical Guys Citrus Wash at its higher concentration, I follow with a good paint cleanser like P21S, then a paint sealer like BlackFire Wet Diamond or Wolfgang 3.0 Deep Paint Sealant. Then and only then, do I apply a very thin coat of Carnauba Wax (ie DODO White Diamond or the like) and jewel it with a Porter Cable or similar to make sure it's a very thin, uniform application.

Tell us what you used and we can maybe help you.
A paint cleanser, like P21S (which you can get with the brand name S100 at any Harley Davison store) makes infinitely more sense, and is far better for your car than dish detergent.
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You are wasting your time if you Don't clay bar a car before waxing or sealing.
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You are wasting your time if you Don't clay bar a car before waxing or sealing.
Not only that, but you're also wasting your time if you don't polish with a good polisher or ROB and a good polish like Menzerna SIP to remove swirls and even out the paint surface before the sealant.

For the best results: wash (with a good quality car soap, not dish detergent), clay bar, polish, sealant, top with wax if so desire (but usually not necessary as a good quality sealant will look just as good as a caruaba wax).

For more info visit the detailing forum.
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