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Old 06-14-2012, 05:29 PM
MCDz3 MCDz3 is offline
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98 z3 Roadster 2.5 inch rear midrange speakers

Does anyone know where I can get replacement speakers for my 2.5 inch behind the seat speakers? I tried Crutchfield and Bavsoundwerks but cannot find anything that would fit. Mine are completely worn out, no foam around the cone (see pic)

Appreciate the assistance!
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Old 06-15-2012, 04:53 AM
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Get rid of them.....

They are almost useless.... Switch to 5 1/4". They will sound SO much better. I know, I know, you have to cut on your car.... but it is worth it... if you like hearing what you are playing.

All it takes is a Dremel......

Crappy : )

(Just outside of Nashville)
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Old 06-15-2012, 06:30 AM
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While I agree that they are nearly worthless and it might be time to upgrade, if you really want them fixed, maybe Parts Express has something that will fit. (http://www.parts-express.com/) They also can rebuild speakers. In fact there are quite a few speaker-rebuilding services out there.
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:35 AM
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I recently got replacements from BSW, you might want to check their website again. I also have a 98 Z3 Roady and they sound great...you will probably need to get replacements from them...I tried a couple of other places and they all said that the space was narrow (front to back) that speakers not specifically designed for that space would probably be too deep. BMW should have been embarrassed to put those cheapies in there in the first place, especially in a convertible!

These are the ones you need (from my order email): BSW Rear Midrange Upgrade Speakers for BMW Z3, M Roadster 96-02 (BSW.SP.MR.Z3)

They were 110 by the way, I also ordered a 20 kit from them that's designed to gently take apart the BMW interior. But if you've already got the old ones out I guess you've got that ;-)
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Old 06-15-2012, 07:54 AM
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I installed...

Polk Audio 5 1/4" wo ways behind the seats in my '99 Z3M.... no problem with depth... and less than $100 US.

Crappy : )

(Just outside of Nashville)
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Old 06-15-2012, 08:27 AM
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I'm sure the Polks sound great but I didn't want to cut up my interior if it could be prevented...although I'm tempted to try one of the dramatic sub upgrades I've seen on here...
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:41 AM
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If you want OEM replacements, it's part number 65138401310 you need two, should cost about 45.00 each.
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Old 06-15-2012, 09:51 AM
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Why anyone would want the OEMs is a mystery to me, the BSW replacements fit in the existing spot and the OEMs were a joke...
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Old 06-15-2012, 12:49 PM
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Death....

Trust me... I thought long and hard about what to do about the speaker situation that was in my Z3M. When I bought the car lasr summer, it had one kick panel speaker and the two midrange speakers behing the seats. Oh, and the tweeters in the doors and the blown subs between the seats. So I was getting almost nothing that could be heard driving much less putting the top down and enjoying the tunes. Bought the Polk Audio DB series 5 1/4" for the kick panels. They sounded pretty good on their own, however... they couldn't cover up how bad the midranges sounded. So I finally decided it was time to investigate the possibilty of something larger than 3". 5 1/4" was the logical choice. I believe you could go even larger if you wanted to and were willing to go with slim mounts. Trust me, I'm not one to just go in and start cutting...hence the sub box in the trunk...

You wouldn't believe how many positive comments I've had on the sound clarity since I finished....

But thats just my opinion.....

Crappy : )

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Old 10-13-2013, 08:43 PM
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Dear Death, I just recieved my BSW 2.5 inch replacement midranges. They advertise as "plug and play", while the new speaker wires are terminated with a small plug. When I pull out the old speakers, there are two wires attached, a red one and a black one, when I trace the wires as far back as I can in the limited space through the speaker hole, I find no plug to unplug to plug into the new speakers. The new speakers have two black wires and am concerned about the polarity if I just cut the old wires and snip off the plugs on the new ones and splice them together. Where do the existing speakers wires go and how do I get to the ends? Do I have to take more stuff apart? If so what?

Please help... I wanna get these lil buggers installed now!

mcdZ3
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Old 10-14-2013, 06:40 AM
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There should be some clues. Normally, the speaker itself will be labeled "+" and "-". Sometimes there will be a colored stripe on the "+" wire. Often the speaker will have two different sized spade connectors: the smaller one is "+".
On the vehicle side, if you have black and red, the red is "+". In general, BMW uses twisted pairs of speaker wires. The one with the "Muted" colored stripe is the "-" one. So for a pair that has one blue stripe and one gray stripe, the blue stripe indicates "+" and the gray stripe indicates "-".
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Old 10-14-2013, 03:08 PM
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If you are going the oem route then you might as well fix what you have and save money. I repaird my footwell speakers and they are fine - at least by my audio standards!
http://www.simplyspeakers.com/
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Old 10-15-2013, 02:03 PM
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I purchased and installed my 2.5 inch midranges behind the seat. I got them from Bavarian Sound Werks for $140. a pair including shipping. I had to cut and splice the wires the old disintegrated MR's as well as de-twist the wires from the new BSW as the color of both wires was black. They fit like a charm and I love them! They add a lot of sound in the rear where there was nothing before.

Next project, subwoofer if I can figure out how to and what to disassemble to get to them. They're Harmon Kardon. Any body have a video on how to remove this sucker?

Thanks for the tips everyone! Death, there was the tiniest + symbol on the new speakers, almost unintelligible.

MCDz3!
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Old 10-15-2013, 03:41 PM
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Just lift the subwoofer cover straight up. There are two clips at the front and three easily-broken tabs in the back. Lift the front until it comes loose, then lift the back so it comes straight up.

Your 1998 has the two 5 1/4 inch subwoofers. They are pretty poor, but there isn't much you can do to improve them.
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Old 10-16-2013, 05:10 PM
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I'm not sure I understand where to lift it out. Here are a couple pics of what I am working with. I've removed the caps and screws on the back of the cover but I'm not sure what is supposed to lift out or where the tabs in front are located. It was dark when I took these but you should be able to see what is there. The first pic shows a top view of the center panel where I removed the three screws in the back side, the second is the front view. I'm just not sure what is supposed to lift out. Please advise...

MCDz3
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Old 10-16-2013, 06:47 PM
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This should explain.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:06 PM
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I've removed all the screws in the back side of the plastic shroud are there screws up under the front when I take off the grill? I cant seem to find any tabs, and also how much force will it take to pull the unit out, it seems pretty tight and I don't want to break anything.
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Old 10-16-2013, 07:27 PM
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Yes, It's tight. Just pull. You don't have to remove any screws.
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:06 PM
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Cool, got the puppy out! Looking at the speakers (pics attached) they look great to me, nothing loose, no debris, no tears or disintegration noted. I think what the problem was the crackling from the 2.5" midranges which I just replaced. Here's some pics of what I found and a question, the foam seals look ok but when I re-close the unit, should I run a small bead of flexible silicone around where the seals are? Is there anything to "freshen up" the speakers, some treatment to ensure longevity, cure any dryness that may be unnoticeable?

Thanks you for guiding me through this!

MCDz3
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