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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 06-27-2012, 08:46 PM
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2013 Throttle Delay

Anyone else with a 2013 35i have throttle delay? Supposedly this was fixed back in January, but I have it on my '13, just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this?

I have the ZMX package, so I'm not sure what base tune that was based on, anyone else have it and not have the throttle delay?
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:43 AM
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Anyone else with a 2013 35i have throttle delay? Supposedly this was fixed back in January, but I have it on my '13, just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this?

I have the ZMX package, so I'm not sure what base tune that was based on, anyone else have it and not have the throttle delay?
Would you mind posting a few pics of the ZMX package options (specifically the pedals and muffler/tips)?
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:05 AM
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2013 X5 35i premium.. approx. 2,000 miles on the odo. no sports pkg and no throttle delay here..
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:08 AM
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Ahhhh the exact reason I'm getting a 35d. I drove an X5 35i last weekend (rented it from Hertz at LAX) and it had a terrible delay in D and DS... much like my F10.
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Old 06-28-2012, 06:38 AM
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I have a 2013 35i and no throttle delay.
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Old 06-28-2012, 07:06 AM
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I have a split second delay on my Feb 2012 35i. Believe it or not, you do get used to it. When I test drove the 35d before purchase, it had a nightmare throttle delay which is why I bought the 35i - we used to have an audi diesel 10 years ago and that had a nightmare delay so it brought back bad memories. If/when I go back to my dealer I will ask about the 'reprogramming' that folks on here talk about. Supposedly the car learns driving habits which can have an impact on throttle response. wtf driving style needs a throttle delay is beyond me though.
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Old 06-28-2012, 08:54 AM
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Would you mind posting a few pics of the ZMX package options (specifically the pedals and muffler/tips)?
Missing the accelerator pedal and muffler tips on mine, getting that fixed on Tuesday and I'll have the throttle delay checked out then too. Who knows what else they forgot on the programming...

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I have a split second delay on my Feb 2012 35i. Believe it or not, you do get used to it. When I test drove the 35d before purchase, it had a nightmare throttle delay which is why I bought the 35i - we used to have an audi diesel 10 years ago and that had a nightmare delay so it brought back bad memories. If/when I go back to my dealer I will ask about the 'reprogramming' that folks on here talk about. Supposedly the car learns driving habits which can have an impact on throttle response. wtf driving style needs a throttle delay is beyond me though.
There's no way I'd be able to get used to it, going between the 135i and the X5 is night and day when it comes to throttle response. I fully expected the M Performance Pack to be exactly like the PPK on the 135i, so hopefully they have a fix.
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Old 06-28-2012, 09:07 AM
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I have a 2013 35i and no throttle delay.
Do you have the M Performance Package too or just the M Sport Package?
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Old 06-28-2012, 02:23 PM
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I had the throttle delay on my 2012 3.5i premium. After three reprogrammings, BMWNA agreed to swap it for a 2012 diesel. Never thought I'd see the day that an oil burner drove better than gas. BMW and my local dealer really stood up to the plate on this one. One happy customer.
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Old 06-28-2012, 03:30 PM
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Do you have the M Performance Package too or just the M Sport Package?
M Sport only.
I came from a 2007 3.0 that had major delay...the 2013 feels like a rocket in comparison.
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Old 06-28-2012, 04:04 PM
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M Sport only.
I came from a 2007 3.0 that had major delay...the 2013 feels like a rocket in comparison.
2007 had no delay, seems like you are confused on what the "delay" is. Actually it is probably a good thing because once you notice the delay you will hate the car
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:11 PM
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I had the throttle delay on my 2012 3.5i premium. After three reprogrammings, BMWNA agreed to swap it for a 2012 diesel. Never thought I'd see the day that an oil burner drove better than gas. BMW and my local dealer really stood up to the plate on this one. One happy customer.
Well I hope it doesn't come to something like that, it's definitely a programming issue, I'm sure the dealer will sort it out. Just wondering if anyone else with ZMX has it, seems like the base code for the performance tune doesn't have the throttle fix since other 2013s don't have have the issue. Teething pains from getting new options...
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Old 06-28-2012, 05:50 PM
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2007 had no delay, seems like you are confused on what the "delay" is. Actually it is probably a good thing because once you notice the delay you will hate the car
so what is delay then??
2007 has the same drive by wire throttle, and mine had a large delay from pressing throttle to reaction. My 2013 reacts much faster, actually instantly.

According to this the early E70 had the same issue and I can assure you mine had a severe throttle delay:
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=571583
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Old 07-01-2012, 05:38 PM
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so what is delay then??
2007 has the same drive by wire throttle, and mine had a large delay from pressing throttle to reaction. My 2013 reacts much faster, actually instantly.

According to this the early E70 had the same issue and I can assure you mine had a severe throttle delay:
http://f10.5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=571583
I experience it worse when the A/C is on, especially if MAX. Don't forget these cars have the A/C on automatically all the time. From a dead stop to mashing the pedal, the delay will be there. If you've just slowed down to make a turn, the subsequent mashing of the pedal will also be delayed. Yes, a programming issue, perhaps part of stability control, so this is a workaround...

- If you're slowly / somewhat moving and already revving slightly, the mashing of the pedal will bring instant response. So basically if you're inching out, you should be tapping the gas pedal to do so rather than just releasing the brake to inch up.
- If already at highway speeds and you mash the pedal and get slow response... well that is not just BMWs.

The other option is of course to drive in DS all the time. That also tells you it's a programming thing. And of course there will be a lot of engine braking using DS.
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