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Old 07-03-2012, 04:03 PM
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Look in DME2 [12] and DME2 [13] for VMAX setting.
TY very much!!!!

found it!!




these are the values:



Any advice how to proceed?
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:09 PM
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I think changing it to the max 326 would be 326 kph = 202.567009 mph. Can you change it, and post anther picture? I want to see what the Werte value is at 326.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:15 PM
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I think changing it to the max 326 would be 326 kph = 202.567009 mph. Can you change it, and post anther picture? I want to see what the Werte value is at 326.
You mean this? :



I am not able to upload it now to my car because it is middle of the night ..
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:24 PM
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You mean this? :



I am not able to upload it now to my car because it is middle of the night ..
Werte=FF is what I was expecting. Yes, I think that effectively removes the limiter. I am puzzled that your default on an M5 was at 250, but maybe that is a Belgium thing.

I look forward to seeing what Stealth.Pilot's it set to, to see if the Dinan tune is also set to 326 / Werte=FF.
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:29 PM
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Werte=FF is what I was expecting. Yes, I think that effectively removes the limiter. I am puzzled that your default on an M5 was at 250, but maybe that is a Belgium thing.

I look forward to seeing what Stealth.Pilot's it set to, to see if the Dinan tune is also set to 326 / Werte=FF.
Yes here in Belgium we aren't able to order performance package .. so limit is 250
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Old 07-03-2012, 04:35 PM
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Yes here in Belgium we aren't able to order performance package .. so limit is 250
An M5 with no Performance Package and capped at 250 kmh / 155 mph...WTF?
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If we find that's all behind the 'electronic speed limiter', it's a major $$$ hit to the modders, I mean even bigger than when the 2 values for VIM were identified...
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Old 07-03-2012, 08:29 PM
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Werte=FF is what I was expecting. Yes, I think that effectively removes the limiter. I am puzzled that your default on an M5 was at 250, but maybe that is a Belgium thing.

I look forward to seeing what Stealth.Pilot's it set to, to see if the Dinan tune is also set to 326 / Werte=FF.
In the spirit of chasing the bunny, I will upload mine tomorrow morning as soon as I get back home.

This is exciting news from Nasmo. US M5s are also limited to 250.
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Old 07-04-2012, 03:40 AM
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So what I did; I followed the guide for coding in E-sys;

I changed the value to 326
clicked the save button
Activated the FA
and selected the CAFD file
last step coded the FDL

everything went ok , except first try, when my engine was running, it was not accepted;
So engine off, all te steps again and then logs stated OK

Now I have to test it; But it seems so easy, that I cannot believe it;
In case my fear is grounded, where should I look further or for what do I look for in general?

Did I followed the right steps?

Now I started, I am so eager to learn more about e-sys ..
2 weeks holiday will be good time to read & learn
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Old 07-04-2012, 07:24 AM
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Bad news;

My fear was grounded; I changed the values in DME and hit the road, 268 km/h on the HUD when my horses were put on hold meaning the 250 limiter is still in place;

So back to e-sys; I found also the VMAX setting tab in DME13, so I programmed both with same values, thinking they gave a conflict ;

But unfortunately it didn't worked out either;

Reading the car out again, I noticed the values were changed to INPUT 9 and were C9

what should it mean? Dunno; car is driving just the same..

Any thoughts?
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Old 07-04-2012, 07:35 AM
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Bad news;

My fear was grounded; I changed the values in DME and hit the road, 268 km/h on the HUD when my horses were put on hold meaning the 250 limiter is still in place;

So back to e-sys; I found also the VMAX setting tab in DME13, so I programmed both with same values, thinking they gave a conflict ;

But unfortunately it didn't worked out either;

Reading the car out again, I noticed the values were changed to INPUT 9 and were C9

what should it mean? Dunno; car is driving just the same..

Any thoughts?
Well, that sucks. Can you post a pic of the DME 13 VMAX setting and also the INPUT 9 / C9 you mention?

We need to see Stealth.Pilots settings, which I think we will have today.

Also, since you have a M, you should try and add S231A DELETION VMAX to the FA (VO) and then code the DME, and see what both VMAX change to.
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Old 07-04-2012, 08:01 AM
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Well, that sucks. Can you post a pic of the DME 13 VMAX setting and also the INPUT 9 / C9 you mention?

We need to see Stealth.Pilots settings, which I think we will have today.

Also, since you have a M, you should try and add S231A DELETION VMAX to the FA (VO) and then code the DME, and see what both VMAX change to.

Will post screenshot later today;

S231A DELETION VMAX? Will lookup how to program this ; keep you posted
Are there possible dangers adding this?
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Old 07-04-2012, 08:05 AM
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Will post screenshot later today;

S231A DELETION VMAX? Will lookup how to program this ; keep you posted
Are there possible dangers adding this?
Not that I am aware of. You want to follow the guide for Changing FA...then when you are done adding 231 to FA and writing the new VO to the car, you will select DME 12, and then CODE (Not CODE FDL), then do the same for DME 13. DO NOT SELECT CODE DEFAULTS...just "CODE".
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Old 07-04-2012, 08:53 AM
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Not that I am aware of. You want to follow the guide for Changing FA...then when you are done adding 231 to FA and writing the new VO to the car, you will select DME 12, and then CODE (Not CODE FDL), then do the same for DME 13. DO NOT SELECT CODE DEFAULTS...just "CODE".
Shawn I tried to code 231 into FA (using the guide which is pretty straight forward)

FAIL



you asked for screenshot --> DME12:


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@nasmo; The error indicates it is dependent on some other VO Code...so maybe 231 is just not compatible with F-Chassis vehicles.

@Stealth.Pilot; Can you check your VO too and see if Dinan maybe altered it and and added any SA Code(s) to it? Hopefully you have a pre Dinan FA reference for comparison.
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Update;

I looked up what module it could be, because in Germany you can order the M Driver's Package with include the 280 km/h limit;
This module = 7ME .. i was able to program it into FA

After coding, DME 12 & 13 the values were kept in place which gave me hope;
But after test-drive and running again against the 250 speed limit I noticed again the
UNKNOWN
werte=C9

(

Somewhere the car does had a control unit ..

Hope to see the Dinan logs

if someone has other thoughts ..
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Update;

I looked up what module it could be, because in Germany you can order the M Driver's Package with include the 280 km/h limit;
This module = 7ME .. i was able to program it into FA

After coding, DME 12 & 13 the values were kept in place which gave me hope;
But after test-drive and running again against the 250 speed limit I noticed again the
UNKNOWN
werte=C9

(

Somewhere the car does had a control unit ..

Hope to see the Dinan logs

if someone has other thoughts ..
Well...some progress...so we know that the M Driverís Package, SA 7ME takes the top speed from 250 km/h / 155 mph to 305 km/h / 190 mph, and that you can at least add it to the VO.

After you changed the VO though, you did CODE on both DME 12 and then DME 13 and it automatically changed the VMAX settings in both, or did you manually FDL code both VMAX settings after that?
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Well...some progress...so we know that the M Driverís Package, SA 7ME takes the top speed from 250 km/h / 155 mph to 305 km/h / 190 mph, and that you can at least add it to the VO.

After you changed the VO though, you did CODE on both DME 12 and then DME 13 and it automatically changed the VMAX settings in both, or did you manually FDL code both VMAX settings after that?

First i did the code DME 12 and 13

than I checked everything seemed be equal
but no change in values ;

So yes I manually changed the settings.
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First i did the code DME 12 and 13

than I checked everything seemed be equal
but no change in values ;

So yes I manually changed the settings.
Ok...so 7ME can be added to the VO and written to the car, but when the VO is actually applied to the DME Modules, the VMAX settings don't change. This I do not understand on your car since it is an M, and 7ME is a valid Option Code.

I guess we wait and see now if Stealth.Pilot has 7ME in his VO, and what his DME VMAX Settings are.
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Were can I look up the correlation between the FA code (package) and the FDLs?

ie option 230 (close to 231) is EU specific but can't find the contend what this includes.

I keep looking hope some expert can point us in the right direction
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Were can I look up the correlation between the FA code (package) and the FDLs?

ie option 230 (close to 231) is EU specific but can't find the contend what this includes.

I keep looking hope some expert can point us in the right direction
I don't think any such animal exists. That would be great though if it did, as you would know for sure every module requiring a manual CODE after VO Change.

I think the better answer is to fully understand E-Sys, as it is capable of taking a modified VO, and automatically identifying and coding every module needed to support the changed VO. This is explained in Page 9 of the E-Sys User Manual...but it's not very clear.
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I don't have 7ME in my VO.

Also I don't have DME2[13]

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@Stealth.Pilot; Thanks for the info. Well, your settings of Wert_02 / Werte=02 match Losco's, and he too supposedly has no Speed Limiter with his Japan spec'd car. So, maybe Wert_02 / Werte=02 is it. I would like to know what your's was set to before the Dinan tune though. Hopefully someone else with a stock 550i can chime in with what their's is set to.

If that is the case though, I am not sure that will help nasmo, as in looking at his pictures, his setting choices appear to be all numeric, without a Wert_02 option. Although in his case, we should be able to figure out how to code his car to accept factory 7ME.
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