Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > X Series > X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)

X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

View Poll Results: What does the future hold for the 2013 x5 diesel?
Same Old, Same Old- 2013 versions will arrive in October 33 70.21%
OMG, it will really be 5 months without a Diesel- same driveline 1 2.13%
BMW announces new engine/trans- and it takes until December to deliver 6 12.77%
BMW announces something, but not major- sooner than December 7 14.89%
Voters: 47. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #26  
Old 07-05-2012, 11:46 AM
kanar200's Avatar
kanar200 kanar200 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: CA
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 750
Mein Auto: was 530d, is X5d 2011
I would be surprised if they join 8AT with M57 at the end of the production cycle (only for a few months and only for US spec diesel)
__________________


WTB: spare tire kit
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 07-05-2012, 04:32 PM
Emission's Avatar
Emission Emission is offline
Automotive Monomaniac
Location: North of Los Angeles, CA
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 10,688
Mein Auto: Schnelle Autos
I drive craploads of AT gearboxes... five, six, seven and eight-speed units. I still find the best AT on the planet is the 6AT in the X5 35d (the seven and eight-speed units are quicker and more efficient, but they shift too damn much). I knew about the upcoming 8AT, but I still jumped on the 6AT.

And, with regards to M57 vs. N57... BMW is only "cheapening" its engines these days (witness the N54 to N55). Just sayin'...



- Mike
__________________
I am fortunate to have unique press cars delivered weekly, but I own:

'13 Audi Q5 2.0T Quattro 8AT
'86 Porsche 911 Turbo 4MT


Gone, but never forgotten... my E70 X5 35d, E90 335i, E46 330i, E36 328i, E70 X5 3.0si, E53 X5 3.0i.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Read my work as West Coast Editor for Autoblog!
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 08-23-2012, 08:42 PM
LIKECARZ LIKECARZ is offline
BMW Fan
Location: Geneva, IL USA
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 62
Mein Auto: 2014 650i xDrive Converti
I have been a long time BMW owner...and still am. However, I made the choice to move one of my cars to an SUV diesel. Tried out the X5 35d and the new Porsche Cayenne Diesel this week...just arrived at the dealer. It took 5 mintues to decide...the Cayenne was smooth, powerful, huge pana roof, nice lines...and so I bought one! The 2012 X5 35d seemed dated, not as nice interior..and not as fun to drive as the Cayenne. Loaded with Premium Plus package, Bose updraded stereo, 19" Cayenne Sport wheels and skid pad...$74,000 MSRP....The dealer got 3 Cayenne Diesels in...two where pre-sold and I bought the 3rd...

Will keep you posted...
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 08-23-2012, 08:47 PM
Emission's Avatar
Emission Emission is offline
Automotive Monomaniac
Location: North of Los Angeles, CA
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 10,688
Mein Auto: Schnelle Autos
Quote:
Originally Posted by LIKECARZ View Post
I have been a long time BMW owner...and still am. However, I made the choice to move one of my cars to an SUV diesel. Tried out the X5 35d and the new Porsche Cayenne Diesel this week...just arrived at the dealer. It took 5 mintues to decide...the Cayenne was smooth, powerful, huge pana roof, nice lines...and so I bought one! The 2012 X5 35d seemed dated, not as nice interior..and not as fun to drive as the Cayenne. Loaded with Premium Plus package, Bose updraded stereo, 19" Cayenne Sport wheels and skid pad...$74,000 MSRP....The dealer got 3 Cayenne Diesels in...two where pre-sold and I bought the 3rd...

Will keep you posted...
Your dealer already has the Cayenne Diesel in stock?

- Mike
__________________
I am fortunate to have unique press cars delivered weekly, but I own:

'13 Audi Q5 2.0T Quattro 8AT
'86 Porsche 911 Turbo 4MT


Gone, but never forgotten... my E70 X5 35d, E90 335i, E46 330i, E36 328i, E70 X5 3.0si, E53 X5 3.0i.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Read my work as West Coast Editor for Autoblog!
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 08-24-2012, 04:17 AM
DBV DBV is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: USA
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 145
Mein Auto: 2014 BMW 328d xdrive
Both of our dealers received the Porche Cayenne Diesel's on yesterday. Going to go test drive one today. Comparing that with the X5d. Really like the X5d, but intrigued by the Cayenne Diesel.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Emission View Post
Your dealer already has the Cayenne Diesel in stock?

- Mike
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 08-24-2012, 08:09 AM
Emission's Avatar
Emission Emission is offline
Automotive Monomaniac
Location: North of Los Angeles, CA
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 10,688
Mein Auto: Schnelle Autos
Quote:
Originally Posted by DBV View Post
Both of our dealers received the Porche Cayenne Diesel's on yesterday. Going to go test drive one today. Comparing that with the X5d. Really like the X5d, but intrigued by the Cayenne Diesel.
The Cayenne Diesel is quite good. Drive both back-to-back.

- Mike
__________________
I am fortunate to have unique press cars delivered weekly, but I own:

'13 Audi Q5 2.0T Quattro 8AT
'86 Porsche 911 Turbo 4MT


Gone, but never forgotten... my E70 X5 35d, E90 335i, E46 330i, E36 328i, E70 X5 3.0si, E53 X5 3.0i.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Read my work as West Coast Editor for Autoblog!
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 08-24-2012, 08:34 AM
AutoUnion's Avatar
AutoUnion AutoUnion is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: East Coast
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,174
Mein Auto: German
Quote:
Originally Posted by Emission View Post
Your dealer already has the Cayenne Diesel in stock?

- Mike
I was at the local Porsche dealer about a week and a half ago and they said that they were already at port, but Porsche was holding them until they had enough to send out to everyone
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 08-24-2012, 08:40 AM
UncleJ UncleJ is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Silicon Valley
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,555
Mein Auto: '06 X3
....and I suspect no deals to be had either!
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 08-24-2012, 08:47 AM
AutoUnion's Avatar
AutoUnion AutoUnion is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: East Coast
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 5,174
Mein Auto: German
Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleJ View Post
....and I suspect no deals to be had either!
Ha. Strict MSRP on Diesels. I just called my local dealer and the TDIs are in transit to dealer right now.
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 08-24-2012, 08:50 AM
Emission's Avatar
Emission Emission is offline
Automotive Monomaniac
Location: North of Los Angeles, CA
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 10,688
Mein Auto: Schnelle Autos
I'm flying to Alaska on Monday for the official media launch trip. I could save some time and drive one at my local dealer...

- Mike
__________________
I am fortunate to have unique press cars delivered weekly, but I own:

'13 Audi Q5 2.0T Quattro 8AT
'86 Porsche 911 Turbo 4MT


Gone, but never forgotten... my E70 X5 35d, E90 335i, E46 330i, E36 328i, E70 X5 3.0si, E53 X5 3.0i.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Read my work as West Coast Editor for Autoblog!
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 08-25-2012, 07:03 AM
UncleJ UncleJ is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Silicon Valley
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,555
Mein Auto: '06 X3
Nice time of year up there -- too early for snow and too late for the gnats. Say Hi to Sarah if you are passing by her house. Is there really a Porsche store in AK? Oh well, the press tender/recovery vehicle will most likely be a 4x4 Superduty 350 Diesel anyway -- to pull the scribes out of the tundra when they get their stringback driving gloves caught on a steering wheel stalk.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 08-25-2012, 09:35 AM
ard ard is offline
Resident Curmudgeon
Location: CA
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 9,585
Mein Auto: '12 X5 35d/E39M5/996TTX50
^rotflmao
__________________
Keep it as simple as possible...but no simpler.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 08-25-2012, 10:45 AM
Emission's Avatar
Emission Emission is offline
Automotive Monomaniac
Location: North of Los Angeles, CA
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 10,688
Mein Auto: Schnelle Autos
Quote:
Originally Posted by UncleJ View Post
Nice time of year up there -- too early for snow and too late for the gnats. Say Hi to Sarah if you are passing by her house. Is there really a Porsche store in AK? Oh well, the press tender/recovery vehicle will most likely be a 4x4 Superduty 350 Diesel anyway -- to pull the scribes out of the tundra when they get their stringback driving gloves caught on a steering wheel stalk.
Ha ha... I have been to 47 of the 50 states, so I am really excited about Alaska (even more than a European trip!). We are staying at the "Captain Hook Hotel" and then heading up to the "Alyeska Resort" (in Girdwood) the second night. It's a whirlwind tour, one that will tease me to come back!

- Mike
__________________
I am fortunate to have unique press cars delivered weekly, but I own:

'13 Audi Q5 2.0T Quattro 8AT
'86 Porsche 911 Turbo 4MT


Gone, but never forgotten... my E70 X5 35d, E90 335i, E46 330i, E36 328i, E70 X5 3.0si, E53 X5 3.0i.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Read my work as West Coast Editor for Autoblog!
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 08-25-2012, 11:38 AM
NoI4plz NoI4plz is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Stop stalking me!
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 1,065
Mein Auto: A box with 4 circles
Yea as we probably know its November at the earliest. Expecting the same 6 speed transmission, same power train.

Its just easier in terms of cost.

Background:

M57 (launched 98 and N/a on the F-series platform, replaced with N57)
Estimated time till F15 X5=approximately a year


As per my knowledge the, M57 was never mated with an 8spd, so it wouldn't make sense for them to mate that engine, which is about 2 decades old (on its way out F-series cars have been switched to the N-generation engine) and have to design a custom shift map for this particular engine, for one particular model year. Its just cuts into BMW profit margins.

I would love to have a M57, with an 8 speed, or even an E70 with an N57 8 Speed, but I dont think it would be possible. Just gonna have to wait and see!

@emissions didnt know you were part of autoblog. That sounds really awesome!
__________________
BMW and Mercedes Build Beta Products!
Lexus build Release Candidate Products!

Why does this matter?
CAUSE EVERY TIME someone says Lexus has better build quality, one should consider what Toyota their Lexus Engine and chassis platform comes out of and how long that part has been tested in the real world!
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 08-25-2012, 12:24 PM
ard ard is offline
Resident Curmudgeon
Location: CA
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 9,585
Mein Auto: '12 X5 35d/E39M5/996TTX50
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoI4plz View Post
Y

@emissions didnt know you were part of autoblog. That sounds really awesome!
Proof that nobody ever reads signature blocks over one line....

__________________
Keep it as simple as possible...but no simpler.
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 08-25-2012, 12:39 PM
Emission's Avatar
Emission Emission is offline
Automotive Monomaniac
Location: North of Los Angeles, CA
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 10,688
Mein Auto: Schnelle Autos
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoI4plz View Post
Yea as we probably know its November at the earliest. Expecting the same 6 speed transmission, same power train.

Its just easier in terms of cost.

Background:

M57 (launched 98 and N/a on the F-series platform, replaced with N57)
Estimated time till F15 X5=approximately a year


As per my knowledge the, M57 was never mated with an 8spd, so it wouldn't make sense for them to mate that engine, which is about 2 decades old (on its way out F-series cars have been switched to the N-generation engine) and have to design a custom shift map for this particular engine, for one particular model year. Its just cuts into BMW profit margins.

I would love to have a M57, with an 8 speed, or even an E70 with an N57 8 Speed, but I dont think it would be possible. Just gonna have to wait and see!

@emissions didnt know you were part of autoblog. That sounds really awesome!
I've been with them for nearly five years. Sweet gig.

Um... Has BMW announced the '13 X5 35d yet (I don't follow all the news)? The '14 MY is all-new... but I am still betting the '13 35d gets an 8AT... it was supposed to be in the '12 (I know for a fact)!

Quote:
Originally Posted by ard View Post
Proof that nobody ever reads signature blocks over one line....

I don't even read them.

- Mike
__________________
I am fortunate to have unique press cars delivered weekly, but I own:

'13 Audi Q5 2.0T Quattro 8AT
'86 Porsche 911 Turbo 4MT


Gone, but never forgotten... my E70 X5 35d, E90 335i, E46 330i, E36 328i, E70 X5 3.0si, E53 X5 3.0i.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Read my work as West Coast Editor for Autoblog!
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 10-08-2012, 06:18 PM
ard ard is offline
Resident Curmudgeon
Location: CA
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 9,585
Mein Auto: '12 X5 35d/E39M5/996TTX50
Whelp...

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=650637
__________________
Keep it as simple as possible...but no simpler.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 10-08-2012, 08:03 PM
Emission's Avatar
Emission Emission is offline
Automotive Monomaniac
Location: North of Los Angeles, CA
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 10,688
Mein Auto: Schnelle Autos
Quote:
Originally Posted by ard View Post
Lame, but it helps me.

- Mike
__________________
I am fortunate to have unique press cars delivered weekly, but I own:

'13 Audi Q5 2.0T Quattro 8AT
'86 Porsche 911 Turbo 4MT


Gone, but never forgotten... my E70 X5 35d, E90 335i, E46 330i, E36 328i, E70 X5 3.0si, E53 X5 3.0i.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Read my work as West Coast Editor for Autoblog!
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 10-09-2012, 07:35 AM
UncleJ UncleJ is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Silicon Valley
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 6,555
Mein Auto: '06 X3
Looks like the VA(P)G oilers have now gone to an 8 speed with a 240 hp diesel for '13. Makes the T-egg the bargain of the bunch, if you only need two rows.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > X Series > X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 07:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms