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X5 E70 (2007 - 2013)
E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 09-22-2012, 03:57 PM
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I have the 20"s and took the advice of this forum to get an independent alignment at about 1,600 miles. Still to soon to have results. I'll try to get back here with my results after a few more thousand miles.

Came from the factory with:
LF .1 camber,7.2 caster, 1.4 toe RF -.2 camber,7.0 caster, .16 toe total toe .31
LR -1.3 camber, .06 toe RR -1.8 camber .05 toe total toe .10
Now set at:
LF .1 camber, 7.2 caster, .06 toe RF -.2 camber, 7.0 caster, .06 toe total toe .12
LR -.04 camber, .14 toe RR -.06 camber, .05 toe total toe .18

Have to say that the Dunlops are riding smooth and silent so far even before the alignment. I am at about 1,900 miles now. Dont notice any excess wear, but give it a few more miles, who knows.
I'm impressed. Way to be proactive.

That toe was quite a lot from the factory. If you are reporting the toe in the units BMW specs that sounds like it was out of spec. I like toe down at 0.02 or so for max wear.

Thanks for possting and report back. Like to hear you get nice long and even wear. Actually, IMO, the 'even' wear is more important.....just seems more 'right'

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Old 09-01-2013, 06:50 PM
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I have X5d 2012, Original Dunlop 20". 11,000 millage. Never done alignment. bought 15 months back.

Front
Driver Side: 80% gone for outside, 40% gone inside
Right Side: 70% gone for outside, 30% gone inside

Back
Driver Side: 50% gone for inside, brand new outside
Right Side: 40% gone for inside, brand new outside

Flipping front tries from left to right is one options, but need to re-mount because these are directional.
I was afraid that the car may not drive smooth after that, but today I did it. Spent 40$.
Re-mounted and re-balanced, prefect! no issues drives like new. Even better millage.

Next week I'll do the back tires. I think I can get 5 ~ 7k more out of these.

Will keep you posted
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Old 09-01-2013, 11:33 PM
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INDY recommendation

Does anyone know of a good independent shop in Ventura County, California?
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Old 09-02-2013, 07:13 PM
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I'm impressed. Way to be proactive.

That toe was quite a lot from the factory. If you are reporting the toe in the units BMW specs that sounds like it was out of spec. I like toe down at 0.02 or so for max wear.

Thanks for possting and report back. Like to hear you get nice long and even wear. Actually, IMO, the 'even' wear is more important.....just seems more 'right'

A
My S4 needs an alignment so the X5 is getting done too. The alignment just looks off. I have just over 1000 mi on her and don't feel like buying new summer tires in the spring.
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Old 09-03-2013, 03:50 AM
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My S4 needs an alignment so the X5 is getting done too. The alignment just looks off. I have just over 1000 mi on her and don't feel like buying new summer tires in the spring.
Where are you getting it aligned?
I am spending quite some time in Madtown, but I actually live in the Western Burbs of Chicago.
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Old 09-03-2013, 05:48 AM
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Came from the factory with:
LF .1 camber,7.2 caster, 1.4 toe RF -.2 camber,7.0 caster, .16 toe total toe .31
LR -1.3 camber, .06 toe RR -1.8 camber .05 toe total toe .10
Now set at:
LF .1 camber, 7.2 caster, .06 toe RF -.2 camber, 7.0 caster, .06 toe total toe .12
LR -.04 camber, .14 toe RR -.06 camber, .05 toe total toe .18
Nice! Thank you for sharing. I'm about to get an alignment on my (new to me) '11 50i.

Questions:

1. I see that total toe is the sum of Left + Right. But why is this number important, or why is it reported?

2. ARD: what are the BMW factory (range) specs for the e70 X5? Is your recommended 0.02 for toe at the limit of the range? What are the units that these settings are in? Will any alignment shop understand or do I need to convert to a "common denominator"? Would like to walk in with the numbers and tell the shop what to do.

3. Planning on doing this at an Indy, so the car will not be "pre-loaded" as required by BMW.

PS. I have both 18" (stock) and 20" wheel/tires: should I have the alignment done on the 18" or the 20"?
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Old 03-10-2014, 05:46 PM
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22k miles

Thanks for the post Wish I would have reads these posts earlier.
I have a -12 X5 3.5d (18 inch wheels) with about 22k miles.
Both front tires are bald on the outer part. Rear ok with 30-40% left.
Last 5k miles it has been very noisy as well.

Just ordered four brand new Bridgestone DUELER H/L 400 P255/55R18 without run flat.
Will do alignment once installed.
Hope not only to get a better ride but also 30k or more out of the tires.

Question:
Is it worth the $200+ to get the alignment at BMW?
Or the $100 normal shop?

Thanks.
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Old 03-10-2014, 07:00 PM
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Since I've received so much help here regarding this matter, I'd like to provide some feedback as well.
I have purchased a 2013 X5 35 in November 2013 with the 20" Dunlop scattered setup (Sports package).
I realized I needed to go check up on the alignment before 2,000 miles, so I did at 400 miles.
I asked for the report and below are the findings prior and after.
By the way, I switched mine from the RFT Dunlops to Michelin Latitude Tour HPs at 500 miles. Not because I hated the Dunlops, but those summer/performance tires do not work well here in Chicago during December =)
I now have 3,000 miles on the tires (2,500 miles on the Michelins) and don't see any wear, but probably too early to tell.
Hopefully this report is readable, never tried attaching a pic before.
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Old 03-10-2014, 07:49 PM
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recently brought in X5M for service... SA noticed "feathering" on the tire edges... i didn't even have to say anything and alignment was covered under warranty.
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:14 PM
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I asked them if alignment was covered under warranty and they said 'No'.
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Old 03-10-2014, 11:25 PM
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Question:
Is it worth the $200+ to get the alignment at BMW?
Or the $100 normal shop?
Normal shop... MAKE SURE THEY WILL SET IT TO YOUR SPECS, Bmw dealers typically wont...read below



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I realized I needed to go check up on the alignment before 2,000 miles, so I did at 400 miles.
I asked for the report and below are the findings prior and after.

Not a great alignment. They covered it under warranty, right? It was out of spec, under 2000 miles it is covered.

But they left way too much toe in the settings....

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I asked them if alignment was covered under warranty and they said 'No'.
Read you warranty document- alignment is covered for 2000 miles. Any damage due to an alignment would be covered too- but only for 2000 miles/.

I suppose some nice shops will toss an alignment in after 2k miles...
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Old 03-11-2014, 12:01 AM
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Normal shop... MAKE SURE THEY WILL SET IT TO YOUR SPECS, Bmw dealers typically wont...read below
Thanks ARD. Very good posts.

Bit of a newbie on this but read another post that following settings would work with some tweaks:
LF .1 camber, 7.2 caster, .06 toe RF -.2 camber, 7.0 caster, .06 toe total toe .12
LR -.04 camber, .14 toe RR -.06 camber, .05 toe total toe .18


What tweak would you recommend for 18 inch wheels on a X5 35d?
Going to put on new Bridgestone OEM tires but non-RFT.


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I suppose some nice shops will toss an alignment in after 2k miles...
Once again I regret not being as proactive as tkdtaikim.
The dealer in Newport Beach wanted $259 for the alignment and at least $300 more for the set of tires.
Ordered tires from Costco and I am looking for recommendations for a good alignment shop in the Irvine area.
BMW Irvine has a special for $199 but that is $100 more than a random independent shop I called.
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