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E30 (1982 - 1993)
God's Chariot. The E30 was produced primarily from 1982 through 1991. The cabriolet was the one exception which was produced through 1993.

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Old 07-10-2015, 10:00 PM
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Advice on service estimate for my 89 325i

I've put a lot into my baby, and looks like she'll need a lot more. Can someone please take a look at this estimate and tell me what you think about a) if the costs seems fair, and b) what needs to be done right now?

Thanks a lot! I want her running through the year 2030.
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Old 07-10-2015, 10:31 PM
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Boy, I could really use some help with this. I love this car and am serious about keeping her and investing money even though most mechanics suggest getting a newer car.
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Old 07-11-2015, 01:28 AM
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Knowmoore,

I am shock to no end. Notwithstanding that I have quickly learned how to do my own mechanical / electrical work on my 1987 325i Convertible, the estimates are very very high in my opinion.

What really blows my mind is this crap about Rusted Front & Rear Rotors (Brakes)! All you have to do is take it to an Auto Parts that has a turning machine (Turn the Rotors) and they will look like new, assuming they have not been turned before and Rotor Thickness is still within tolerances.

I don't know about your 1989 325i but, my 1987 came with iron rotors and after turning the rear rotors they should look like this:


For the Rear Rotors Emergency brake you prepare them the good old fashion way....by hand!


Brakes are super easy to do it yourself!






I have not seen so much BULL CRAP on an estimate ever in my life! The rear Rotors that came with my 1987 325i convertible are made of Iron so, they will rust to a point!



As far as front Struts, I got mine from Bavarian Auto Recycling at:
http://www.bmrparts.com/

For $89.00 shipped, I received both right / left complete assemblies including wheel hubs and upper thrust bearing mounts and with a 6-months warranty!!!





This is how I do it (DO-IT-YOURSELF):




Man, the only thing not in the estimate and I was surprised was the rear wheel bearings and rear shocks!

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Old 07-11-2015, 01:36 AM
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Drive to another shop and never darken the door again of the ripoff artists that gave you that estimate. That is totally outrageous.
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Old 07-11-2015, 02:16 AM
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Lower Control Arm "KIT"

Knowmoore,

With respect to Lower Control Arm Bushing busted, my 1987 325i still has the original Lower Control Arms and that I know of, none of my bushings are busted. Now when I replaced my front struts to those newer ones, I did notice the driver's side front ball joint needs replacing but, it is still rock solid and only makes noise on a very rare occasions when going over hard bumps!

In the future and when the Budget permits I will order from PARTS TRAIN DOT COM and do yourself a favor and if you really need to replace the front suspension then, I would do-it-myself and order this "KIT"

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Old 07-11-2015, 02:56 AM
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Wow--thank you for such a thorough response with the pictures and all. This is a shop right in the middle of capital hill in DC, so the price would be more than usual, but I appreciate your warning. Does NAPA, PB, or AZ have turning machines? Looks like you do your work outside--I'm totally into figuring it out myself, but I don't have a garage and I live in the city, so what should I be able to do on a Saturday afternoon in a parking lot, and what instructions would you recommend? Did the front suspension kit come with clear instructions? Thanks again.

Sweet ride bro, BTW.

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Old 07-11-2015, 02:59 AM
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hornhospital,
Thanks for confirming guapoman's advice. I think that probably isn't the right shop for me, obviously.
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Old 07-11-2015, 03:10 AM
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What's the first thing I should do? He seemed very concerned about the lower ball joint and inner tie rod...
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Old 07-11-2015, 03:46 AM
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What's the first thing I should do? He seemed very concerned about the lower ball joint and inner tie rod...
Geesh, The FEAR Tactic!

Don't fall for it. Do yourself a favor and walk away from this SHOP!

I strongly recommend to seek another SHOP for a 2nd opinion.

Heck, your 1989 325i can't look any worse than my 1987 325i lower ball joint!

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Old 07-11-2015, 04:01 AM
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guapoman2000
Wow--thank you for such a thorough response with the pictures and all. This is a shop right in the middle of capital hill in DC, so the price would be more than usual, but I appreciate your warning. Does NAPA, PB, or AZ have turning machines? Looks like you do your work outside--I'm totally into figuring it out myself, but I don't have a garage and I live in the city, so what should I be able to do on a Saturday afternoon in a parking lot, and what instructions would you recommend? Did the front suspension kit come with clear instructions? Thanks again.

Sweet ride bro, BTW.
Thanks for your comments on my ride......you should have seen it when I laid my eyes on it for the first time. It was in a swap and abandon for over 2+ years.

No instructions as these parts from that Recycler assumes you know how to.....

Do yourself a BIG FAVOR and get yourself the BENTLEY MANUAL for your BMW.

http://www.tradebit.com/usr/wisark/p...-1998-INFO.pdf

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bentley-Repa...6ee049&vxp=mtr

https://www.tradebit.com/filedetail....1987-1988-1989

http://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/sh...nline-Download

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Old 07-11-2015, 12:43 PM
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Guapo I highly recommend you not buy a whole pile of front suspension crap for less than a control arm should cost. I promise I'm not trying to sound rude but that **** will snap in half the first time you go into a good turn.

There's some places you can cut costs that "kit" is the worst of the worst Chinese knockoff crap on earth, worse than eBay. Besides ruining the feel of what makes an E30 such a great car, there's a very real safety risk with that stuff. Best case you go through the time and trouble of swapping all the parts, only to turn around and buy everything again for the correct price a month later. At least everything would be broken loose though...

You can get "good enough" tie rod ends for about $25 and sway bar links are cheap and easy. For control arms I recommend lemfoerder (sic?) with the real BMW bushings, solid M3 offset style if you want quicker turn-in.

You can get a rebuilt steering rack from rackdoctor.net for about $150 with tie rods included.


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Old 07-11-2015, 05:37 PM
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+1 on OEM quality. Changing the parts is just a jig-saw with bolts holding it together. Make heaps of notes and take pictures as you go. Compare with the Bentley pictures as well. Make sure you lube up the calipers correctly before you bolt it back together. Do it all once and do it right. After all that you may need a wheel alignment.
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Old 07-11-2015, 05:52 PM
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Forget about it......

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Old 07-11-2015, 06:12 PM
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Forget about it!

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Old 07-11-2015, 06:40 PM
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Okay,

EXCUSE ME!!!!!

I have changed my mind and I will take "LoganTV's" recommendation for some hard thought and investigation as I am liking the OEM views.

It seems like

https://www.rockauto.com/catalog/mor...id=448&jpid=16



From humble beginnings in 1947, the LEMFÖRDER brand is now the largest OE supplier of steering and suspension parts in the world. Expertise acquired through joint development work with leading automotive manufacturers guarantees that increasing demands for safety and comfort will always be met.

Seems like ROCK AUTO has them for a cool $71.99 (each) plus shipping! (Pan down!)
https://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raf...ktemplate=true
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Old 07-13-2015, 09:54 AM
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Can someone please take a look at this estimate and tell me what you think about a) if the costs seems fair, and b) what needs to be done right now?
Holy cow, most of those prices are outrageous, even with labor.
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