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Old 09-12-2014, 02:39 PM
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Switch brake lights off when Auto-Hold is active

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Is it possible to switch-off brake lights when Auto-Hold function is active...?
I mean, when car is motionless using Auto-Hold, brake lights are on all the time when the car is stopped...
I would like to switch it off when standstill.

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Old 09-12-2014, 11:40 PM
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I found "old" thread similar to main
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=637371

I understand that there are different behavior on the street between US and Europe.
But in fact in Europe most drivers do not use brake lights when car is stopped - only when braking before stopping.
In Europe is more manual gearbox so I guess this is the cause. In any case, shining brake lights is unwelcome when the vehicle is motionless, for example, in a traffic jam.

Aside from custom or safety issues - whether it is at all an option available to turn off the brake lights when Auto-Hold function is active...?
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Old 09-14-2014, 03:05 AM
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Hello

Is it possible to switch-off brake lights when Auto-Hold function is active...?
I mean, when car is motionless using Auto-Hold, brake lights are on all the time when the car is stopped...
I would like to switch it off when standstill.

regards
I think this is really a nonsense. When the car is stopped by pressing the brake the light must be on for safety reason. It is against the law to do anything different.
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Old 09-15-2014, 11:18 AM
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I'm affraid that you do not understand me...

I don't want to disable breaking lights at all! It is completely not the case... no sense and very dangerous!
When I press a break pedal and breaking a car - it is clear that the breaking lights MUST light up!
Every time, when I breaking using pedal or only press the pedal without breaking (for example, when the car is motionless) - breaking lights of course MUST light up!

I mean only Auto-Hold function - it is the function associated with the parking brake. Isn't it?
Even the icon on the dashboard is the same as electrical handbrake: (P) only in green, not red.

For example - when you drive a car with a "normal" parking brake (handbrake lever, not electrical handbrake) and when you apply a handbrake lever - then no breaking lights are iluminated...
Of course, when the car is motionless with active parking break - even then you press the pedal, the breaking lights MUST iluminate!
But if we treat Auto-Hold as an automatic handbrake - then the breaking lights might not have to iluminate...

P.S.
In Europe there are a lot of Volkswagen Group cars... VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda... Bentley (these just not a lot)
The cars of these brands do not activate the braking lights when car is motionless using Auto-Hold... And this is normal behavior and is not considered unsafe...

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In Europe there are a lot of Volkswagen Group cars... VW, Audi, Seat, Skoda... Bentley (these just not a lot)
The cars of these brands do not activate the braking lights when car is motionless using Auto-Hold... And this is normal behavior and is not considered unsafe...
While true, it is considered unsafe in the US and VAG pulled it from all their cars here.
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Really basic questions, if I may. What is Auto-hold function? Is it standard or part of an option? Does it work with manual transmission? How do you engage it?

Again, appreciate your forebearance as I had not heard of this previously

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Auto-Hold (AUTO H) when enabled saves the driver from having to hold the brake down to prevent the car moving when when transmission is engaged (D, DS, or S1) and car is at a stop.

It is for Automatic Transmission only. For manual gear box, one would you just put the gear shift in neutral.

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