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Old 07-13-2012, 11:15 AM
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Oil Burners are BACK - BMW Confirms 2.0L and 3.0L Diesel Engine bound for the US

BMW bringing diesel back to the US with 2.0l and 3.0l engines

BMW has confirmed to Jason Cammisa, editor at Automobile that they will bring a single turbo 2.0 liter diesel to the US market. The 2.0 unit will make 180hp and 280 ft-lbs of torque. If those numbers sound familiar they should, the US is finally getting the "20d" power plant that has been powering the European 320d.

BMW also confirmed a twin turbo 3.0L diesel engine that will be arriving state side with the 2.0. Despite sharing the turbo count and displacement of the current 3.0L oil burner engine, this is an all new engine and the specs are still in the works. Rumors of 225hp and 410 ft-lbs or more of power sounds exciting to me!

The engines will likely find their way into the F30 3 series sedan and wagon first and then into the X1, X3, X5 and 5 series. This is great news for Diesel enthusiasts in the US, I'm excited about this announcement, are you?

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Old 07-13-2012, 11:55 AM
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The 2.0L sounds interesting with the added FE.
But the 3.0L with the 225HP/410 Lb Ft (if true) is a down grade from our current 265 HP/425 Lb Ft so I'd keep my D.
Except the new ones will have 8 speed tranny.

BTW the M-B new 3.0L Diesels now produces 240 HP and 455 Lb Ft so why would BMW downgrade the 3.0L instead?
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Old 07-13-2012, 11:58 AM
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BMW has confirmed to Jason Cammisa, editor at Automobile that they will bring a single turbo 2.0 liter diesel to the US market. The 2.0 unit will make 180hp and 280 ft-lbs of torque. If those numbers sound familiar they should, the US is finally getting the "20d" power plant that has been powering the European 320d.

BMW also confirmed a twin turbo 3.0L diesel engine that will be arriving state side with the 2.0. Despite sharing the turbo count and displacement of the current 3.0L oil burner engine, this is an all new engine and the specs are still in the works. Rumors of 225hp and 410 ft-lbs or more of power sounds exciting to me!

The engines will likely find their way into the F30 3 series sedan and wagon first and then into the X1, X3, X5 and 5 series. This is great news for Diesel enthusiasts in the US, I'm excited about this announcement, are you?
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:01 PM
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The 2.0L sounds interesting with the added FE.
But the 3.0L with the 225HP/410 Lb Ft (if true) is a down grade from our current 265 HP/425 Lb Ft so I'd keep my D.
Except the new ones will have 8 speed tranny.

BTW the M-B new 3.0L Diesels now produces 240 HP and 455 Lb Ft so why would BMW downgrade the 3.0L instead?
I'm pretty sure its the 330d, but am surprised about an "all new engine" since that is a relatively new powerplant.
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:09 PM
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:15 PM
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I am very happy to hear that. I now am hoping that it is on an ED model I am getting next year.

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Old 07-13-2012, 12:16 PM
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F30 330d specs from bmw.com:

258 hp and 413 lb-ft

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ECE test cycle Fuel consumption (in l/100 km )

Urban: 6 [39.2 mpUSg]

Extra-urban: 4.3 [54.7 mpUSg]

Combined: 4.9 [48 mpUSg]

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Old 07-13-2012, 12:23 PM
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:27 PM
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Here is link to the Car and Driver Blog.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/bmw-con...rst-recipient/

May favorite part....
"This 2.0-liter car will replace the 335d, which was good but perhaps a little too burly (265 hp and 425 lb-ft from a 3.0-liter) and thirsty for U.S. diesel buyers; it died off with the E90 generation of 3-series sedans. The twist-happy 335d produced EPA numbers of 23 city and 36 highway; we expect the 2.0-liter to improve upon those numbers by some measure."
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Really...too burly. It is a sports sedan.
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:39 PM
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F30 320d specs from bmw.com:

184 hp and 280 lb-ft in non-SCR form

0 to 100 kmh (in sec) 7.5 manual/7.4 auto

ECE test cycle Fuel consumption (in l/100 km )

Urban: 5.8 manual/5.4 auto [40.6/43.6 mpUSg]

Extra-urban: 3.8 manual/3.9 auto [61.9/60.3 mpUSg]

Combined: 4.5 [52.3 mpUSg]
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:44 PM
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I reckon we all shall to a group-buy on new oil-burner.
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Old 07-13-2012, 12:50 PM
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Here is link to the Car and Driver Blog.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/bmw-con...rst-recipient/
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This part doesn't make sense to me:
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The 2.0-liter diesel 3-series is currently peddled in Europe as the 320d, although we figure a badge along the lines of 325d or 328d will be adopted here, if only to head off any impressions of weakness.
The "25d" engine is not currently offerred in the F30/31 anywhere. Naming a 320d as another engine in the BMW lineup does not make sense.

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Dont be surprised to see this engine shared across BMWs U.S. lineup. It would make sense in the X3the better to compete with the GLK250 diesel headed our way next year...
They really would need to use the "25d" to compete with the GLK250diesel power and performance wise.

Remember that just last month Car and Driver was wrong about the 7 series diesel coming to the US...
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Old 07-13-2012, 01:01 PM
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...BMW also confirmed a twin turbo 3.0L diesel engine that will be arriving state side with the 2.0. Despite sharing the turbo count and displacement of the current 3.0L oil burner engine, this is an all new engine and the specs are still in the works. Rumors of 225hp and 410 ft-lbs or more of power sounds exciting to me!...
Remember, "twinpower turbo" does not mean more than one turbo. The power output you posted more closely matches the engine in the F30 and F10 "30d", which is a single, variable nozzle turbo that uses the two feed banks as other "twinpower turbo" engines do.

The BMW N57 "35d" sequential turbo diesel engine used in many applications in Europe (except for F30/31- so far) is >300hp and 465 lb-ft.

Another good thing- the engine in the 330d meets Euro 6 emission standards, and very likely could pass EPA Tier 2 bin 5 standards.

This is awesome news!

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Old 07-13-2012, 02:33 PM
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Here is link to the Car and Driver Blog.
http://blog.caranddriver.com/bmw-con...rst-recipient/

May favorite part....
"This 2.0-liter car will replace the 335d, which was good but perhaps a little too burly (265 hp and 425 lb-ft from a 3.0-liter) and thirsty for U.S. diesel buyers; it died off with the E90 generation of 3-series sedans. The twist-happy 335d produced EPA numbers of 23 city and 36 highway; we expect the 2.0-liter to improve upon those numbers by some measure."
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Really...too burly. It is a sports sedan.
Interesting since the power is why I bought my car. Had it made much less then I'd probably gone with one of the other cars I was looking at and cost less money.
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Old 07-13-2012, 04:29 PM
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...BMW also confirmed a twin turbo 3.0L diesel engine that will be arriving state side with the 2.0. Despite sharing the turbo count and displacement of the current 3.0L oil burner engine, this is an all new engine and the specs are still in the works. Rumors of 225hp and 410 ft-lbs or more of power sounds exciting to me!...
screen shot shows that the 6 cyl will be a 255hp engine (no torque number given). 255 hp (international) is equal to the 258 hp (metric)/190kW that BMW lists for the 330d

this is with the SCR system already in place. It should be good to go for the US market!
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:08 PM
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I suppose the delayed 2013 X5 will have the 3.0 with 8 speed.
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I suppose the delayed 2013 X5 will have the 3.0 with 8 speed.
Thank god we got the older M57 if this is true. I don't want to beta test a new power train for BMW
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Old 07-14-2012, 04:28 AM
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And I see a 320d M Sport in Estoril Blue in my future. Good job BMW
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F31 diesel in the US??? My 2011 F10 528i may be finding a new home...
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Old 07-15-2012, 11:16 AM
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This is great news! Especially for the 3-Series wagon. Now if only that comes available in all-wheel drive...
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Glad to learn that BMW d engines are headed stateside. Now BMW just needs to send the M-edition d engines stateside.
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Old 07-15-2012, 05:12 PM
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I'm glad they are offering diesel again but these are targeted at the mileage set. I'm sure happy I got the 2011 335d while it lasted since the performance is what I love. I hope to get near 400 HP by the time I'm done with my mods while still returning orignal if not better MPG. The days of high HP engines may be peeking.
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I hope that hp continues to go up not down. If I'm paying over 50 grand for any vehicle, I want it to be at the top in every performance catergory. That includes HP.
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