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Old 07-16-2012, 05:55 AM
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Nice to hear diesels are coming back... After these new models settle in we can expect to have better resale for our 35d. Hopefully in next 1-2 yrs beyond that resale wouldnt matter much
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Old 07-16-2012, 09:12 AM
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I can't wait! When will they be available and will they priced competitively to Mercedes E350 Bluetec?
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:32 AM
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I can't wait! When will they be available and will they priced competitively to Mercedes E350 Bluetec?
Considering a 3 series is a competitor for a C class then I sure hope these cars are a good bit less than a E350 Bluetec.
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Old 07-16-2012, 10:34 AM
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UPDATE: BMW spokesman Dave Buchkow has confirmed above report telling AutoGuide that, “the next BMW Advanced Diesel engine that will come to the US is the 2.0-liter 4-cylinder turbo-diesel. Specific timing and model applications will follow.”
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:05 AM
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Numbers are not correct..2.0d 320d currently has 184bhp and the 335d has 265bhp with huge torque both of them...!These are excellent engines, especially the 2.0, very strong and economic.
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Numbers are not correct..2.0d 320d currently has 184bhp and the 335d has 265bhp with huge torque both of them...!These are excellent engines, especially the 2.0, very strong and economic.
20d is 135kW, or ~181hp international, ~184hp metric

265hp was the M57 sequential twin turbo diesel with blueperformance for N American market.

N57 twinpower turbo 3liter diesel with single turbo produces 19kW (255hp intl, 258hp metric)
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Old 07-16-2012, 11:13 AM
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Old 07-16-2012, 12:32 PM
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Brief interview with BMW today:

BMW Confirms Plans to Launch New Line of Diesels in U.S.

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BMW will expand the number of diesel models it offers and introduce two new diesel engines in the U.S. starting in calendar year 2013.
The Munich-based automaker currently offers one diesel model in the U.S., the BMW X5 xDrive35d. Until the end of 2011, BMW also sold the BMW 335d, which …
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Thanks for the link, Jonathan.

One question that we keep coming back to. The power/torque numbers of the 6 cyl match that of the N57 single "twinpower" turbo 3L, but again in your article it is referred to as a "twin-turbo" engine. Can you clarify if this indeed is the actual twin turbo why the powe/torque is different than the N57 twinturbo found in the 535d, 740d, etc?
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...An all-new twin-turbo, 3.0-liter I-6 will also be introduced. Specs are similar to the engine that powers the X5 (and powered the previous generation 335d). It is said to develop 255 hp and 413 pound-feet of torque...
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Thanks for the link, Jonathan.

One question that we keep coming back to. The power/torque numbers of the 6 cyl match that of the N57 single "twinpower" turbo 3L, but again in your article it is referred to as a "twin-turbo" engine. Can you clarify if this indeed is the actual twin turbo why the powe/torque is different than the N57 twinturbo found in the 535d, 740d, etc?


Thanks again!
I don't really know. Very little info available, esp. about the I-6. This was not a formal announcement - in fact it was very informal. I've been talking to BMW all day (off and on)
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:15 PM
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I don't really know. Very little info available, esp. about the I-6. This was not a formal announcement - in fact it was very informal. I've been talking to BMW all day (off and on)
Thanks for the quick reply.

Can you confirm "twin turbo" vs. "twinpower turbo"?
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Thanks for the quick reply.

Can you confirm "twin turbo" vs. "twinpower turbo"?
No as they might be two different things.

Semi-related, did you notice the "recommended reviews" at the end of the article, though?
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:39 PM
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Read Christian's review of the X3 2.0d -- but I wish he had spent less time on discussing what highway he was on and what it used to be, and more on how the car performed. I am sure that a history compendium of the various autobahns and secondary roads was interesting, just not to me, when I was hoping to find out how the car performed in depth; rather than in a cursory, almost casual, throw-a-way manner. Still even with that less than thorough review, it looks like a great car for economy! We really need that in the line up here.
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No as they might be two different things.

Semi-related, did you notice the "recommended reviews" at the end of the article, though?
Twinpower turbo and twinturbo are certainly two different things. That's why I want to know

Twinpower turbo in BMW parlance is a twin scroll turbo that is one turbine feeding adjacent cylinders so the turbo is not fighting against the pistons not in compression stroke. This is used in both the 320d and 330d.

Twin turbo implies the use of two different (actually identical) turbos. This would be a misnomer for the M57 used in the 335d and X5 xDrive 35d as those were two different size turbos used singularly or together.

I'll check out those reviews. Thanks.
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Old 07-16-2012, 01:46 PM
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Read Christian's review of the X3 2.0d -- but I wish he had spent less time on discussing what highway he was on and what it used to be, and more on how the car performed. I am sure that a history compendium of the various autobahns and secondary roads was interesting, just not to me, when I was hoping to find out how the car performed in depth; rather than in a cursory, almost casual, throw-a-way manner. Still even with that less than thorough review, it looks like a great car for economy! We really need that in the line up here.
Some of the articles are Grand Touring articles, not reviews per se. That is why you get the drive.

We now have a more defined pattern. First a review, then one or more Grand Touring articles. The 640d series is a good example of this.
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Sorry...much of this is a turn off to me. My options are now very much more clear, although I've pretty much already decided between one of 3 vehicles next time around:

F10 M5
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I just don't see myself driving another BMW diesel for a while.
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The only one that might appeal to me would be the 320d BUT the cost would have to not be much more than say a Passat(I really want to say Jetta but know no way it will be that cheap) or I'd not be interested in it. Only reason I'd get something like that is for a mileage hog and I try not to drop a ton of money on those.
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The only one that might appeal to me would be the 320d BUT the cost would have to not be much more than say a Passat(I really want to say Jetta but know no way it will be that cheap) or I'd not be interested in it. Only reason I'd get something like that is for a mileage hog and I try not to drop a ton of money on those.
Based on UK pricing, I expect the 320d with blueperformance to price out around the 328i MSRP before any "ecocredit" or the like. If ecocredit is available, that would put the 320d at the same price as top of the line Passat TDI. Would you buy the 320d in that case?
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Based on UK pricing, I expect the 320d with blueperformance to price out around the 328i MSRP before any "ecocredit" or the like. If ecocredit is available, that would put the 320d at the same price as top of the line Passat TDI. Would you buy the 320d in that case?
I would at least consider it at that point. If it costs though as much as a 328i and has no discounts then I'd not even consider it.
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I know lot's of you are excited about 320d. However, I'm more excited about the prospect of 530d coming to our shore.
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I know lot's of you are excited about 320d. However, I'm more excited about the prospect of 530d coming to our shore.
Yeah- that's an awesome vehicle. On par performance-wise with the 535i and MUCH better fuel economy.
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