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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 10-29-2013, 08:51 PM
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Lsss brake dust? Ceramic pads used?

Am I delusional or does the F30 has less black brake dust? Maybe it is silver colored ceramic dust?
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:55 PM
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Lsss brake dust? Ceramic pads used?

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Old 10-30-2013, 05:18 AM
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BMW has switched to a pad that gives off less dust.
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Old 10-30-2013, 05:47 AM
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BMW has switched to a pad that gives off less dust.
They did that back in 2010-2011.
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Old 10-30-2013, 05:49 AM
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They did that back in 2010-2011.
It seems there is less brake dust on my 2014 than my 2011 E90.
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Old 10-30-2013, 05:54 AM
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Agreed...my 2011 E90 would get terrible dust. My 2014 F30 seems to produce very little and what dust there is seems to be less noticeable. I have the sport line and I don't know if it is just me, but it seems to me the color of those wheels between the "spokes" is slightly darker than the face of the wheel, almost a light pewter in color?
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Old 10-30-2013, 06:45 AM
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It seems there is less brake dust on my 2014 than my 2011 E90.
Maybe they just did it for the 2011+ 335is because I get near zero brake dust? Although, I remember a lengthy thread in the E90 Forum one or two years ago where most people with 2011+ 3 Series BMWs said they had little or no brake dust.

I found the link to one of the discussions we had: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...ght=brake+dust
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:07 AM
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BMW has switched to a pad that gives off less dust.
If only it was true for MSport cars. They use "Euro" pads which are insanely dusty compared to the standard pads.
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Old 10-30-2013, 07:43 AM
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If only it was true for MSport cars. They use "Euro" pads which are insanely dusty compared to the standard pads.
About the only saving grace is that the dust isn't sticky so it's relatively easy to get off. I can do it with a soft cloth or brush with no scrubbing needed. Still, it's almost pointless cleaning the wheels because they're dusty again within a few miles.
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:04 AM
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About the only saving grace is that the dust isn't sticky so it's relatively easy to get off. I can do it with a soft cloth or brush with no scrubbing needed. Still, it's almost pointless cleaning the wheels because they're dusty again within a few miles.
Armor All Wheel Protectant(only AA product worth a damn), 4 stars on Amazon and can be found at Target, Walmart etc.

It keeps the wheels cleaner-longer.
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Old 10-30-2013, 08:49 AM
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Armor All Wheel Protectant(only AA product worth a damn), 4 stars on Amazon and can be found at Target, Walmart etc.

It keeps the wheels cleaner-longer.
Thanks, I'll try that - I would not have thought to try an Armor All product as I too am not a fan of their protectant thing. I had several cracked dashboards back in the 80s from that stuff.
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Old 10-30-2013, 10:45 AM
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Armor All Wheel Protectant(only AA product worth a damn), 4 stars on Amazon and can be found at Target, Walmart etc.

It keeps the wheels cleaner-longer.
So the Amazon reviews say that there may be problems with discolored hazing on non-silver wheels. I have the 403M 19" wheels which have grey sections between the spokes. Have you seen any problems with wheels that aren't silver? Thanks.
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:26 AM
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So the Amazon reviews say that there may be problems with discolored hazing on non-silver wheels. I have the 403M 19" wheels which have grey sections between the spokes. Have you seen any problems with wheels that aren't silver? Thanks.
Friend uses it on his 403ms and raved about the results to me.
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Old 10-30-2013, 02:09 PM
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As someone who has used AA for years, I will say that Meg's Brake Dust Barrier is head and shoulders and torso and legs above it. I realize that Amazon reviews are mediocre, but I suspect they don't know how to prep and/or apply. I was first explained about this value by one of the board's detailing gurus, it is basically OptiCoat for the wheels at a fraction of the price. I was also told wheel repairs are no problem with it, I do not how that goes with OC. I WOULD have used OC if I hadn't already applied the BDB when my brother let me have the leftovers after using it on his car, which I did end up using for my exhaust tips (extremely highly recommended) and lights.

Here is the first time I mentioned how much I liked it.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=708850

It makes car washes much easier, and for better and worse, less frequent. Not only is removing the dust so much easier, I also don't address the wheels with a spray can once totally dried with the AA. After washing/drying the car, I am done. For $11, it's amazing. However, if you don't mind spending the money, I'd vote for OptiCoat, if also to use on exhaust and lights... $70 though...
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Already in the linked thread, here is a pic with about 100 miles on it. This pad is from 2007, you know the one where you might come to a stop sign at 15 mph, and it already looks like you powder coated your wheels black.

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As someone who has used AA for years, I will say that Meg's Brake Dust Barrier is head and shoulders and torso and legs above it. I realize that Amazon reviews are mediocre, but I suspect they don't know how to prep and/or apply. I was first explained about this value by one of the board's detailing gurus, it is basically OptiCoat for the wheels at a fraction of the price. I was also told wheel repairs are no problem with it, I do not how that goes with OC. I WOULD have used OC if I hadn't already applied the BDB when my brother let me have the leftovers after using it on his car, which I did end up using for my exhaust tips (extremely highly recommended) and lights.

Here is the first time I mentioned how much I liked it.
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=708850

It makes car washes much easier, and for better and worse, less frequent. Not only is removing the dust so much easier, I also don't address the wheels with a spray can once totally dried with the AA. After washing/drying the car, I am done. For $11, it's amazing. However, if you don't mind spending the money, I'd vote for OptiCoat, if also to use on exhaust and lights... $70 though...
I normally love their products, but I tried it after thinking AA's was good-thinking it would be better....hated it. Never used it again. It created a white/chalky film on my wheels.
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I can't speak for the previous #9x or other models but even after 2 weeks I have very little compared to my TL that was much worse. Most the time the wheels look cleaner than the body.
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I normally love their products, but I tried it after thinking AA's was good-thinking it would be better....hated it. Never used it again. It created a white/chalky film on my wheels.
I tried it on my daughter's Audi S4. Her car has the worst brake dust I have ever experienced, and that's saying something compared to my ZO6 and my wife's 535xi.

I sprayed it on her winter wheels set when they were off of the car. When they were mounted about 3 weeks later, they stayed relatively clean for about a week. Then, when cleaning the car, I noticed a sticky like film where dirt had started to become imbedded. It took me several tries and about 4 different products to get the stuff off. I won't be using it again.
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I tried it on my daughter's Audi S4. Her car has the worst brake dust I have ever experienced, and that's saying something compared to my ZO6 and my wife's 535xi.

I sprayed it on her winter wheels set when they were off of the car. When they were mounted about 3 weeks later, they stayed relatively clean for about a week. Then, when cleaning the car, I noticed a sticky like film where dirt had started to become imbedded. It took me several tries and about 4 different products to get the stuff off. I won't be using it again.
I wonder why we are getting such different results. Sorry about that...

Try Opti-Coat! Every top detailer in the US can't all be wrong!?
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I wonder why we are getting such different results. Sorry about that...

Try Opti-Coat! Every top detailer in the US can't all be wrong!?
I don't really know why it didn't work for me. I think I remember trying it after reading one of your posts saying you had success. The brake dust imbedded in fine streak like patterns on the wheels, like where I may have had more overspray on some areas than others. It just turned out to be a mess.

I wish it would have worked and I may try Opti-Coat because the Audi wheels really get filthy quickly.
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