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Old 10-23-2013, 08:03 PM
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NBT Flash Fail with esys

I attempted to update my NBT tonight with v50.4 but it fail at 71% through the sw flash, I am trying to recover it with istaP but it just keeps rebooting it.

I tried with esys & ICOM first but that failed before the btloader update & could only get it to start using the URL option & that's when it failed at 71%.

If anyone has any tips that might get it to complete the update that would be great.


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Old 10-23-2013, 10:43 PM
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NBT Flash Fail with esys

Ok after 4hrs on ista it won't program it, it make 3 attempts to save user data then moves to program but NBT just keeps rebooting, back on esys now on 38% & counting


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Old 10-24-2013, 01:01 AM
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good luck,,,,,
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Old 10-24-2013, 02:13 AM
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NBT Flash Fail with esys

Ok, after 9hrs of hell! It's done, turns out the the "Top Quality" enet cable I bought wasn't so good after all!
After holding it in position it went through ok.
Now I need to find out what extras we get with the 50.4 sw!!!


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Old 10-24-2013, 02:15 AM
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NBT Flash Fail with esys

Strange it wouldn't work with the ICOM, I would have thought that would have been the most solid option!


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Old 10-24-2013, 07:30 PM
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NBT Flash Fail with esys

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Old 10-25-2013, 12:49 AM
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Is the NBT retrofitted?
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Old 10-25-2013, 02:05 AM
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no, it came with it from factory
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Old 10-25-2013, 03:04 PM
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Hello mcrussell,


If I understand correctly, finally It worked with Esys alone ? Please, keep us informed with new coding possibilities. Maybe FCW will work now...
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Old 10-26-2013, 12:03 AM
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Yes, completed with just esys, the only thing I see different is the new voice icon in the top left with suggestions when you use VR.
FCW I think is more related to KAFAS sw level & build date
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Old 10-26-2013, 02:49 AM
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Yes, completed with just esys, the only thing I see different is the new voice icon in the top left with suggestions when you use VR.
FCW I think is more related to KAFAS sw level & build date
Do you have SIRI as well?
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:03 PM
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Yes, completed with just esys, the only thing I see different is the new voice icon in the top left with suggestions when you use VR.
FCW I think is more related to KAFAS sw level & build date
I second the question if you got Siri too. I was also wondering if your display shows the volume level while you adjust it and what NBT_XXXX shows in your navigation version info. Sorry for the grand inquisition but I've been thinking about doing the upgrade myself.
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:22 PM
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Do you mind posting an idiot's guide to flashing the NBT? Is it pretty much the same process as that posted on 6WA retrofit?
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:30 PM
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Do you mind posting an idiot's guide to flashing the NBT? Is it pretty much the same process as that posted on 6WA retrofit?
Same exact process.
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:50 PM
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Thanks. NBT is en route. Not sure if I want to flash it to update the VIN or buy a CAN emulator
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Old 10-26-2013, 03:26 PM
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NBT Flash Fail with esys

It's the same process as Shawn posted in the dme flash thread but I also ticked ibandeploy which added 30mins to the flash time, I'm not sure what that updates though.
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Old 10-26-2013, 03:30 PM
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NBT Flash Fail with esys

The voice icon has changed in the top left & has suggestions along the top, no visual volume or Siri voice but I have only coded it with my 0712 build date, will try it with 0713 & compare the NCD to see what's different.



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Old 10-26-2013, 03:34 PM
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NBT Flash Fail with esys

I was in an brand new f30 the other day & if I'm not mistaken when using Bluetooth audio you got album art & could select playlists etc.
Is there anyone with an 07/13 or later f10 or f30 who can confirm?


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Old 10-26-2013, 03:58 PM
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I was in an brand new f30 the other day & if I'm not mistaken when using Bluetooth audio you got album art & could select playlists etc.
Is there anyone with an 07/13 or later f10 or f30 who can confirm?


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This was in f10 LCI what's new literature so I assume it is a new nbt feature across the board. Could you please check your NBT version in navigation, should be right below the map version.
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Old 10-26-2013, 05:02 PM
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NBT Flash Fail with esys

Ok, I'm in the car now, version is NBT_B13185A

what do this equate to?


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Old 10-26-2013, 05:41 PM
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Below are the coding changes from 11/12 to 07/13

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Old 10-26-2013, 05:47 PM
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Ok, I'm in the car now, version is NBT_B13185A

what do this equate to?


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Too bad you didn't note the version before the upgrade, I believe this is the firmware version. However, the reason why I asked for the version is your current version matches the version I saw in a July production LCI while my Feb '13 came with NBT_C12341I. I suspected it was related to the hardware version on the NBT-HU but looks like it isn't and there is hope for us yet, although the LCI literature does speak of a "further developed" NBT head unit that no longer has an internal yaw sensor. I will check tomorrow if the LCI with same version as yours has visual volume indication at least and let you know. Meanwhile, I know that a third version NBT_D12505I does exist but have no idea if it is the one with the new features.

EDIT: NBT_Cxxxx correct version number now

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Old 10-26-2013, 06:58 PM
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These are the coding changes that resulted from changing the build date to 07/13, I also have FCW Error now but I suspect it may be due to the ICM Requiring an update.
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:02 PM
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These are the errors.

I used 50.4 data, on the NBT Files picture do the blue lines mean they weren't updated?
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:26 PM
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These are the errors.

I used 50.4 data, on the NBT Files picture do the blue lines mean they weren't updated?
According to my limited understanding of the legend at the bottom, yes, not updated but Shawn should be able to confirm that. AFAIK NAVD is the navigation map.

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