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Old 07-28-2012, 12:53 AM
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Ed navigation maps version 1.0.1 from 2008???

I have been having a lot of problems with the navi maps during my trip.
1) sent me to roads that don't exist
2) sent me to one way streets going the other way
3) does not find streets, hotels that exist
4) many streets don't give an option to put house number
5) when I do put house number half the time it's wrong
6) if I take a wrong turn it does not gracefully recover

And another thing.. Heads up display does not jive with the map sometimes.
This is really frustrating.. Any ideas why the maps are so crappy? Have they really not been updated in 4 years?
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:00 AM
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My delivery specialist told me that European maps that come complimentary with ED cars are old but given free of cost to BMW by the mapping company. I myself did not had any major problem with maps until I reached France. While driving from Interlaken to Paris via Langres, there were several new roads and sections of highways that were either different or absent on the maps.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:33 AM
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I found the same thing in France. While driving on (new?) toll roads our map showed us driving where there were no roads, then at some point we would be connected to roads again. We weren't warned about this though.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:43 AM
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for future ED delivery, get yourself a garmin with EU maps. If you don't want a new one, get a used one in eBay. I still use my old garmin 270 (2007) in EU when I drive there. One time, I was on the new autobahn (eastern part of germany) heading to Berlin, but the GPS says I was driving on the runway of Schönefeld Airport.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:51 AM
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Had the same problem in Slovakia. Frequently, error message "You entered area where turn by turn instructions are not available" popped up. Major new interstate highways were not showing on the map.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:47 AM
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I have been having a lot of problems with the navi maps during my trip.
1) sent me to roads that don't exist
2) sent me to one way streets going the other way
3) does not find streets, hotels that exist
4) many streets don't give an option to put house number
5) when I do put house number half the time it's wrong
6) if I take a wrong turn it does not gracefully recover

And another thing.. Heads up display does not jive with the map sometimes.
This is really frustrating.. Any ideas why the maps are so crappy? Have they really not been updated in 4 years?
I can speak from my experience from running the DVD Nav loaner program for 9 yrs. The maps aren't cheap and a new version is out every 6 months. I think the freebies probably works well until you get to areas of new constructions.

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for future ED delivery, get yourself a garmin with EU maps. If you don't want a new one, get a used one in eBay. I still use my old garmin 270 (2007) in EU when I drive there. One time, I was on the new autobahn (eastern part of germany) heading to Berlin, but the GPS says I was driving on the runway of Schönefeld Airport.
Probably not a bad idea, but why would you buy a map when I rent the lastest version of Euro map to you (that I ensure it will work w/ your Garmin version, provided that you let me know the model # and where you are traveling to) all for $20??!!

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Old 07-29-2012, 12:12 AM
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Never occurred to me that BMW would skimp out on a map. Given the whole "experience" part, that's so important to them. I find this frustrating are ridiculous, honestly speaking.
Should I have known this I would prepare differently.
It seems lie in Italy it does not work well practically everywhere
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:57 AM
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Same here. You just assume they would use the latest map. During the trip I was concerned about how well the nav would work in the U.S. based on the European experience.
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Old 07-29-2012, 01:02 PM
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I can speak from my experience from running the DVD Nav loaner program for 9 yrs. The maps aren't cheap and a new version is out every 6 months. I think the freebies probably works well until you get to areas of new constructions.



Probably not a bad idea, but why would you buy a map when I rent the lastest version of Euro map to you (that I ensure it will work w/ your Garmin version, provided that you let me know the model # and where you are traveling to) all for $20??!!
Beewang, which Nuvi model would you buy if you were not going to get the Nav option in an F30?

There are a few that have North America and Europe preloaded, or better to get a cheaper North America only and rent newest Europe map from you when necessary? Do you have maps that cover multiple countries in Europe, can you list?

Thanks!
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Old 07-29-2012, 03:09 PM
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Similar problems in Italy, mainly areas where changed road layout led the NAV to think I was driving through the middle of open fields when I was actually on the Autostrasse. Just outside Venice it sent me in the complete wrong direction.
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Beewang, which Nuvi model would you buy if you were not going to get the Nav option in an F30?

There are a few that have North America and Europe preloaded, or better to get a cheaper North America only and rent newest Europe map from you when necessary? Do you have maps that cover multiple countries in Europe, can you list?

Thanks!
First of all, if you need a nav device for US, I'd say to get a nice smart phone. The new smarthones w/ the Google Maps and Navigations are just GREAT!! (and free) But if you must have a nav unit... then I think the Nuvi 1300 Series is a very good model. The price is cheap enough now and the processor speed is more than adequate. Sure you can buy one bigger and newer and spend more money but seriously... WHY??!!

I think the North America Model is really all you need. "Europe" is getting bigger and bigger (in terms of Map data) and there really isn't a way for you to update your Europe Map easily (ask me how I know...) Unless you travel to Europe Often (like 4+ times a year) Its just not worth the time of the extra money. For the lil' $$ I charge you get a latest Euro Map on an SD card and you are "done"!

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Do you have maps that cover multiple countries in Europe, can you list?
I have coverage of the whole Europe. But for the purpose of compatibility I ask everyone who places a nav request with the model of their Nuvi and the countries/regions that they are traveling to.
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Old 07-31-2012, 09:21 AM
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I just got home two days ago. Itinerary was Munich-Zurich-Geneva-Paris-Amsterdam for a total of 1134 miles. The BMW-provided Euro maps worked great for us. We drove from city center to city center then parked the car for sightseeing in urban areas. We used public transportation to get around to see the sights. As long as you realize that the nav system -- actually, ANY nav system -- produces "mechanical" routes that you shouldn't follow blindly, you won't have any problems.

We also found the POIs on the BMW-loaded maps to be quite accurate and useful. For example, we used POI searches to find coffee along the highways and to route us to a tourist attraction outside Zurich.
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Ours worked just fine as good as in the states. The only problem we encountered in the Dolomites was in the higher elevations it was useless.
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First of all, if you need a nav device for US, I'd say to get a nice smart phone. The new smarthones w/ the Google Maps and Navigations are just GREAT!! (and free) But if you must have a nav unit... then I think the Nuvi 1300 Series is a very good model. The price is cheap enough now and the processor speed is more than adequate. Sure you can buy one bigger and newer and spend more money but seriously... WHY??!!

I think the North America Model is really all you need. "Europe" is getting bigger and bigger (in terms of Map data) and there really isn't a way for you to update your Europe Map easily (ask me how I know...) Unless you travel to Europe Often (like 4+ times a year) Its just not worth the time of the extra money. For the lil' $$ I charge you get a latest Euro Map on an SD card and you are "done"!



I have coverage of the whole Europe. But for the purpose of compatibility I ask everyone who places a nav request with the model of their Nuvi and the countries/regions that they are traveling to.
Thanks for the info! I agree that smartphones with google maps etc are great but it's a bit complicated to figure out how to have sufficient data and MBs per day to run gps smartphone in various countries.
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