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Old 07-28-2012, 07:40 AM
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92K, need new injector

For the past couple of months I experienced very intermittent "missing" at idle. this week the check engine light came on. Its a bad injector. $1400.

I have a 2009 with 92K miles
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Old 07-28-2012, 08:17 AM
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For the past couple of months I experienced very intermittent "missing" at idle. this week the check engine light came on. Its a bad injector. $1400.
The injector is $482. They're charging you $900 in labor? 6+ hours? Bogus, go somewhere else.
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Old 07-28-2012, 09:18 AM
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How long of a job does the "book" say it is? I never have looked into it before. I know after doing 10 injectors on my truck that it is rather labor intensive but figuring much easier on an I6 engine.
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:14 PM
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Did you go with extended warranty?
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Old 07-28-2012, 06:30 PM
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Do the BMW extended warranties cover diesel injectors?
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Old 07-29-2012, 08:06 AM
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Do the BMW extended warranties cover diesel injectors?
I emailed my local BMW business manager with your question. She's great at getting back to me. I'll know by tomorrow and will post her response.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:18 AM
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Do the BMW extended warranties cover diesel injectors?
Fuel injectors are covered.
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Old 07-29-2012, 09:28 AM
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Looking at realoem it appears the euro and usa injectors are the same p/n. Can anyone confirm that? If so another option is "used" injectors from europe. Something maybe like this:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-BOSCH-...item27bf0a191d

Was contemplating at some point getting a set of used injectors if the price was right, sending the tips here (http://www.extrudehone.com/diesel/diesel-afm.php) to allow higher fuel flow rates for a given rail pressure. Did this as one of the mods on my Cummins B3.3T repower project jeep and had good results.
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Old 07-29-2012, 02:00 PM
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Another option could be just getting the injector rebuilt. At this price point it might be a very valid option to get it rebuilt.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:05 PM
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I wonder if using fuel additives, like the VW TDI guys, would help these injector issues
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:08 PM
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I wonder if using fuel additives, like the VW TDI guys, would help these injector issues
Run an additive and put a few hundred thousand miles on yours and let us know if you ever have an injector problem during that.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:17 PM
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Run an additive and put a few hundred thousand miles on yours and let us know if you ever have an injector problem during that.
I'm blessed to live in an area where I have access to high quality diesel all year round. No chance for "old" stock.

I've contemplated using additives on my old Jetta TDI, but I really had no reason to. I drove that thing 20k miles in one year and was able to open the fuel filter before I traded the car in. It was spotless.

My local VW dealer stocks Stanadyne at the parts counter.

I know that BMW is pretty strict on their "No Additives policy," but I wonder if this will help. No idea
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:19 PM
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Ford dealer here stocks a "Ford" diesel fuel additive and they also recommend fuel flushes and other things. The people I know who do all that still have injector failures on their 6.0 Powerstrokes(like I own) just like those of us who just do the regular old maintenance. But at the end of the day you have to do whatever makes you feel safe and happy.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:47 PM
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I have had injector failures on both diesels I drive. The 6.0 Powerstroke lost an injector very early on - at like 8000 miles. Since then, I have had no injector issues with the F350. The BMW needed a new injector a week or so ago. It has 39K miles on it. It was covered under warranty.

I do not use a diesel additive and always try to use either Shell or Chevron diesel.

I did have to have a set of injectors installed in my S2000 pretty early on - something like 30K miles, but it spent a significant portion of it's life between 6000 and 9000 RPM, so the injectors were banging away pretty quickly. I always try to use Chevron gas in the S2000. The injectors were replaced under extended warranty. if not the set of 4 injectors would have cost me about $1000 (total - not each). They are not the high pressure direct injection injectors though.
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Old 07-30-2012, 04:43 AM
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I use AMSOIL Injector cleaner for DIESELS it works for me
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Old 07-30-2012, 05:46 AM
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I use AMSOIL Injector cleaner for DIESELS it works for me
I use nothing in any of my three cars or two diesel marine engines. The only one that has had injector problems is the Ford and those are flat out known for injector failures. It works for me.
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Old 08-03-2012, 03:45 PM
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update

got the new injector but the car still runs rough-they say carbon build in the intake manifold, maybe in the top end as well. they will clean the intake manifold but gratis but won't take the head off for free.

I think I was the first to have the egr valve problem which led to the recall. I wonder if running for 80K with the old emissions gear caused the carbon build or if it will occur in all of these 50 state cars.
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Old 08-06-2012, 06:50 AM
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I spoke to a guy whom happened to work on DIESELS and he advised me that if I ever had an injector CLOGGED, to clean it with KEROSENE since it cuts any contaminats better than Gasoline or any othe product. He told me he use to run into a lot cloged injectors either gas or diesels and that was the best method to UN-Clogg them
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:41 PM
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Had my SES light up on saturday on my way back from San Diego. Brought it in today and it needs a new injector also. 32k miles. Covered under warranty. They want to keep it overnight so they can test it tomorrow morning from a cold start. Maybe ill get to try a F30 loaner for a day.
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Old 08-06-2012, 05:28 PM
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Please be careful with what is put into your modern high pressure common rail diesel. Kerosene in your fuel tank is considered a contaminate (see pg 102 for example: http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/acms/cs...003-50107P.pdf) that can rapidly degrade the HPFP and other sensitive components.
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@TDIwyse obviously not in the tank, but for everyones information YOU HAVE to unplug INJECTOR and work Outside of the main fuel rail!! Thank for reminding me on this I would of bet SOME ONE here would of added it to the fuel tank!!! jajajajajajajaja
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Old 08-07-2012, 09:18 AM
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So why are the dealers saying they need replaced? Clogged? Leaking?
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Old 08-07-2012, 02:30 PM
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@TDIwyse obviously not in the tank, but for everyones information YOU HAVE to unplug INJECTOR and work Outside of the main fuel rail!! Thank for reminding me on this I would of bet SOME ONE here would of added it to the fuel tank!!! jajajajajajajaja
Thanks for clarifying that.
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Old 08-07-2012, 11:27 PM
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got the car back after intake manifold cleaned of soot. ren great for 2 hrs but this am the SES light came on. back to dealer for evaluation
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Old 08-08-2012, 09:56 AM
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TurboEddie from another site did mention to me that the EGR is the MAIN cause for soot buildup in the intake and other parts, he was able to work on his car and was he PISSED!! the build up is AWEFULL and that is why he is trying to take everything off his car
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