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Old 09-13-2012, 10:27 AM
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ditching the run flats on the F30

Has anyone ditched the run flats on the F30 and changed over to regualr tires? If so, what are you doing for flats? Are you using a repair kit or are you putting a donut tire in the trunk like many people did for the e9X?

If you're using a donut tire, can you give us the details on it? For the E9x, there was a website that many people are aware of that was selling a perfect matching donut spare for the e9x but I can't say that I seen anything or even heard of any mention about a donut spare working with the F3x.
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:31 AM
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I haven't seen reports of anyone ditching them yet. Personally they are much nicer than the E90 generation of tires. No complaints so far.

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Old 09-13-2012, 11:32 AM
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Exactly... my car showed up and I was all anxious about the run flats and how much I was going to hate them. I am fine with them, they have plenty of grip for the kind of driving I do, I have good braking response and they are very quiet and pliable on the highway. I see no reason to get rid of them.
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Old 09-13-2012, 11:38 AM
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Exactly... my car showed up and I was all anxious about the run flats and how much I was going to hate them. I am fine with them, they have plenty of grip for the kind of driving I do, I have good braking response and they are very quiet and pliable on the highway. I see no reason to get rid of them.
I might consider getting rid of them once they have run their course. I am planning to switch over to a winter tire setup in a couple of months, and will be buying a spare. Since I will have the donut already, I don't see a downside to moving away from the RFs. They are bloody expensive compared to regular tires.
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:00 PM
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I might consider getting rid of them once they have run their course. I am planning to switch over to a winter tire setup in a couple of months, and will be buying a spare. Since I will have the donut already, I don't see a downside to moving away from the RFs. They are bloody expensive compared to regular tires.
Well, you have a different definition of "bloody expensive" I guess than I do. Currently tire rack prices for a set of four of the P7 all season run flats on my car is $1150. Compare that to about $800 for comparable non run flats and basically the run flats cost $300 or so more per set.

When I need a replacement set in 18 or 24 months I expect that the cost delta will have shrunk even more...

It's a small price to pay to have tires that I don't have to pull over to the side of the road while freezing my ass off (or getting rained on, or getting car-jacked, or hit by a drunk driver) because I ran over something in the road and got a "flat".
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Old 09-13-2012, 01:51 PM
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Old 09-13-2012, 02:02 PM
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Well, you have a different definition of "bloody expensive" I guess than I do. Currently tire rack prices for a set of four of the P7 all season run flats on my car is $1150. Compare that to about $800 for comparable non run flats and basically the run flats cost $300 or so more per set.

When I need a replacement set in 18 or 24 months I expect that the cost delta will have shrunk even more...

It's a small price to pay to have tires that I don't have to pull over to the side of the road while freezing my ass off (or getting rained on, or getting car-jacked, or hit by a drunk driver) because I ran over something in the road and got a "flat".
A set of Continental DWs is under 650, sometimes under 6 after rebate. Almost half the price and they are excellent tires. There is also the replacement opportunity cost where you are on a trip and lose a runflat and the only shop in town wants to charge you $400 for one.
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Well, you have a different definition of "bloody expensive" I guess than I do. Currently tire rack prices for a set of four of the P7 all season run flats on my car is $1150. Compare that to about $800 for comparable non run flats and basically the run flats cost $300 or so more per set.

When I need a replacement set in 18 or 24 months I expect that the cost delta will have shrunk even more...

It's a small price to pay to have tires that I don't have to pull over to the side of the road while freezing my ass off (or getting rained on, or getting car-jacked, or hit by a drunk driver) because I ran over something in the road and got a "flat".
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Has anyone ditched the run flats on the F30 and changed over to regualr tires? If so, what are you doing for flats? Are you using a repair kit or are you putting a donut tire in the trunk like many people did for the e9X?

If you're using a donut tire, can you give us the details on it? For the E9x, there was a website that many people are aware of that was selling a perfect matching donut spare for the e9x but I can't say that I seen anything or even heard of any mention about a donut spare working with the F3x.
Debated it, but the S001s handled the autobahn and the ring well enough to make me forget it.
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Exactly... my car showed up and I was all anxious about the run flats and how much I was going to hate them. I am fine with them, they have plenty of grip for the kind of driving I do, I have good braking response and they are very quiet and pliable on the highway. I see no reason to get rid of them.
Well my car suppose to have the summer tires (don't know the manufacture yet). If I don't have an issue with them then I may not change them. But since you need to turn the car in with decent tires, might as well change them and then put them on to turn the car in.
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Well my car suppose to have the summer tires (don't know the manufacture yet). If I don't have an issue with them then I may not change them. But since you need to turn the car in with decent tires, might as well change them and then put them on to turn the car in.
Since I anticipate putting 50K miles on the car before lease end I will probably just end up replacing with another set of run flats when needed. I have no idea how much tread life these get, but I probably would not run them in the wintertime after they've got 15K+ on them, all season or no.
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Decided to get a Wheel and Tire protection package when I took delivery. Cost $995 for the duration of the 36 month lease. It will cover about 4 flats and 4 wheel replacements during the 36 months. It made sense to me to transfer the risk. It does not cover wear and will have to replace the run flats before the lease ends. But I gave me peace at mind about having to deal with nails and potholes...

The Pirelli P7 225/45/R18 summer tires are very nice and no complaint about the ride and they have minimal road noise.

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It's a small price to pay to have tires that I don't have to pull over to the side of the road while freezing my ass off (or getting rained on, or getting car-jacked, or hit by a drunk driver) because I ran over something in the road and got a "flat".
There is also the safety aspect of runflats during a blowout on the highway. The runflat tires will give the driver much better control during a blowout.
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Old 09-17-2012, 10:57 AM
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Before I took possession of my new F30 I was convinced I would replace the summer runflats before winter. I will probably replace them, but only temporarily with winter tires and wheels. I love the Double Spoke Style 397 wheels and Continental summer RFs, looks great and performs great. Probably will go with winter runflats, did I just say that. No doubt about it these new generation RFs they are so much better.
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No more "pothole explosions"?

Sorry, I've been out of the loop for a while.

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Old 09-17-2012, 11:29 AM
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Well, I've hit one pothole pretty good and nothing exploded and no rim damage.

Out of curiousity, for those of you going with a separate winter wheel/tire setup, are you going to run sans TPS sensors all winter long or are you going to spring for TPS sensors?

I've looked and for winter tires, the run flats are actually pretty reasonable, in 17" size they are about $25 more per tire than comparable non RFT and there is also a Dunlop Wintersport SP3 available, which is my favorite high performance winter tire.
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Debated it, but the S001s handled the autobahn and the ring well enough to make me forget it.
How did they feel over the ring rumble strip banks? What were your thoughts, and others, on the ride (stifness, noise, etc) with the S001's. I like the RFT concept but not the ride with the old BS Potenza RE050A. Thinking about going with the S001's on my Z4, as they have a slightly higher aspect ratio, so hopefully more ride compliant, same width & 19" wheels. Supposedly they are quieter and softer feeling much like a non RFT.
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:19 PM
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Darn... Be careful of curbs. I have had the car five days and manage to get my first wheel scrape on my passenger side rear wheel. The low profile 225/45/R18 wheels and tires makes the wheels lower than most curbs and the alloy wheels are really soft and subject scrapes. I tried to rub out the scrap with 00 steel wool with limited success.

Anyone have a better solution that OO steel wool to completely rub out the scrape?

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No more "pothole explosions"?

Sorry, I've been out of the loop for a while.

That is a very familiar expression to me. It was the catalyst for trading in my 2006 330Xi for the 2008 535Xi- no more bone jarring hits.

I test drove a 335i Sportline with M Dynamic Suspension and even in sport mode with stiffer damper setting the ride was amazingly compliant. I was convinced the problem has been solved and ordered a 335i xDrive.

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It'll be interesting to see what folks say once they actually start experiencing the f30 sans run flat.

If,for example, I were to replace my tires every 25k miles and spend an extra $500 on tires for run-flats, that's $2k extra in expenses for "run-flat". I might get one-flat per 100k miles, so for that I'd rather just use an emergency tire inflate kit (like continental makes) and roadside assistance for when that fails.
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It'll be interesting to see what folks say once they actually start experiencing the f30 sans run flat.

If,for example, I were to replace my tires every 25k miles and spend an extra $500 on tires for run-flats, that's $2k extra in expenses for "run-flat". I might get one-flat per 100k miles, so for that I'd rather just use an emergency tire inflate kit (like continental makes) and roadside assistance for when that fails.
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Well, I've hit one pothole pretty good and nothing exploded and no rim damage.

Out of curiousity, for those of you going with a separate winter wheel/tire setup, are you going to run sans TPS sensors all winter long or are you going to spring for TPS sensors?

I've looked and for winter tires, the run flats are actually pretty reasonable, in 17" size they are about $25 more per tire than comparable non RFT and there is also a Dunlop Wintersport SP3 available, which is my favorite high performance winter tire.
This seems like a really bad idea unless you are using non-RFT tires (which go visibly flat when they lose pressure). Driving a deflated RFT would eventually lead to tire failure and potential loss of control of the car.
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I just took possession of a new 2012 335i with the Continental 18's. Living where I do, I'll need some sort of winter tire setup pretty quickly. Debating weather I'll buy winter tires and mount them directly on the stock 18's - then get a nicer set of 18" or 19" with summer tread later (or move the Conti's to the new set).

Either way; I need tires for my RWD for the midwest winter!
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Since I anticipate putting 50K miles on the car before lease end I will probably just end up replacing with another set of run flats when needed. I have no idea how much tread life these get, but I probably would not run them in the wintertime after they've got 15K+ on them, all season or no.
Summer tires don't do very well in the tread life department. My C350, the rears were just about gone at 11,000 miles, no lie. That is why I say its better to take the off now, put on the tire you want and put them back on when you turn the car in.
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