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The sixth generation 3 series, chassis code F30. 2013 model year 328i and 335i sedans now in production. Read the F30 frequently asked question thread for all your basic question and dive into all the details in the ultimate F30 information thread.

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Old 11-13-2013, 08:27 AM
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my 2012 328i started to warn me that a service needed and then started to say drive moderately: brake service needed.
my local dealer is saying it needs rear pads and sensors!
isn't this weird?
with my previous vehicles, I always had to replace the front pads way before the rear pads!! and with way more higher mileage.
should I be concerned? did any one have a similar issue?
the car has 25,000 km (15,500 miles)
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Old 11-13-2013, 09:51 AM
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It does seem odd to me. The only time I've seen this was with a friend's Honda Accord. One of the rear calipers was misassembled from the factory which caused its pad to wear fast. We only found the problem after we removed the pad.

Is this covered under warranty?
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Old 11-13-2013, 10:12 AM
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they are saying it is not covered under the certified pre-owned warranty
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Old 11-13-2013, 10:35 AM
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they are saying it is not covered under the certified pre-owned warranty
I'm not sure how the BMW warranty in Canada works, but in the US if the car is less than 4 years, and still under 50000 miles it is covered under the original warranty. Regardless if you purchased the car new or used.

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Old 11-13-2013, 10:43 AM
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same thing, and even the certified pre-owned warranty makes it 6 years !
they are telling me the brake pads are wear & tear part and is not covered under the manufacturer warranty!
I have to dig further and find out
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Old 11-13-2013, 11:00 AM
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same thing, and even the certified pre-owned warranty makes it 6 years !
they are telling me the brake pads are wear & tear part and is not covered under the manufacturer warranty!
I have to dig further and find out
After doing a quick search: Brake pads and discs replacement in Canada are only covered under the "BMW Inclusive Service Plus" warranty, unlike the US where it's part of the scheduled maintenance.

Take a look at Page 10 of this document: http://www.bmw.ca/ca/en/_teaserpool_...rochure_EN.pdf

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Old 11-13-2013, 11:07 AM
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Thank you so much cheikh82
we are screwed both ways in Canada!
the car cost is more expensive than the US and the warranty is worst
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Old 11-13-2013, 11:16 AM
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You must really drive it like you stole it...
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Old 11-13-2013, 11:34 AM
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You must really drive it like you stole it...
LOL; not really
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Old 11-13-2013, 11:37 AM
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You will probably be ok. My 2012 328i also gave the same warning but when the dealer checked the pads it was just a false alarm. Good luck!
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Old 11-13-2013, 11:41 AM
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my 2012 328i started to warn me that a service needed and then started to say drive moderately: brake service needed.
my local dealer is saying it needs rear pads and sensors!
isn't this weird?
with my previous vehicles, I always had to replace the front pads way before the rear pads!! and with way more higher mileage.
should I be concerned? did any one have a similar issue?
the car has 25,000 km (15,500 miles)
Speculation is that DSC, traction control, hill holder, smooth stop, and the anti-dive built into the stability control stuff exersizes the rear brakes more than in previous models. The pads are also much smaller than the fronts, which presumably increases their wear.

My rears were replaced ~45K miles, fronts haven't needed replacement at 73K.
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Old 11-13-2013, 02:51 PM
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It's normal with newer BMWs to wear out the rear pads before the front pads, due to the DSC.


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Old 11-14-2013, 10:53 AM
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It's normal with newer BMWs to wear out the rear pads before the front pads, due to the DSC.
You are right, same thing my dealer told me when I went to pickup the car yesterday. The service rep, said it is common to see the rear pads wear out before the front pads on the newer models for many reasons: DSC, body weight ratio and the fact that the rear pads are thinner than the front pads! according to him, the front are 12mm and the rear are 8 mm

it took 3 days to program the car and install the new rotors and brake pads. But the sensors are coming from Germany and will take a week to get them in, then I have to take the car again to get the sensors installed.

I ended up with $592 invoice
If you are in the USA, you are lucky since your warranty covers the brakes
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:17 AM
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install the new rotors
Why did they have to install new rotors?
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:28 AM
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Why did they have to install new rotors?
I asked the same thing and he said, it is recommended by BMW to install a new rotors every time they change the pads!!!!
this is my 1st BMW so I didn't know much
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:32 AM
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It's pretty common to replace rotors with pads on BMW's.
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Old 11-14-2013, 11:53 AM
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It's pretty common to replace rotors with pads on BMW's.
Thank you Chiefneil.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:05 PM
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I asked the same thing and he said, it is recommended by BMW to install a new rotors every time they change the pads!!!!
If they're not warped or damaged due to grinding, I can't imagine why they'd need to be replaced. Are BMW's rotors fragile compared to other cars? When BMW is paying the bill, I'd bet that they don't quite have the same recommendation.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:09 PM
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Apparently normal on Mercedes too as my mom told me she had to replace her rear brakes not too long ago and I was thinking how odd that was as the fronts were always first to go as 70% of the stopping is done by the front brakes. At least it use to be that way.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:11 PM
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It's pretty common to replace rotors with pads on BMW's.

This is interesting. Have to ask my dealer. If you are right, just adds to the list of why not to own a BMW out of warranty.
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Old 11-15-2013, 08:24 AM
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FYI, my 2012 335i had this note at initial service (14,700 miles)
CBS data shows rear brakes due in 2858 miles, inspect and advise.
Then it says:
Rear brakes at 11mm

I read elsewhere that pads should be replaced at 2.4mm and the SA never mentioned anything, so seems this was faulty sensor reading. Not sure how common this is but may be the same in your case.
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Old 11-15-2013, 09:52 AM
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You do not have to replace the rotor if they are fine and you are paying out of pocket. I only replaced my rotor on the 3rd set of pads.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:19 AM
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Replace the sensors when u do pads


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Old 11-21-2013, 01:29 PM
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That is true, unless BMW is paying for it! I never got new rotors on free maintenance plan :/


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