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Old 08-08-2013, 12:11 AM
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Question Considering 335i to 135i

Note: I'm posting this on the 1 and the 3 series forums to get both perspectives.

I would love some advice on switching from a 335i to a 135i.

I currently drive a Space Gray/Black/Burl E90 335i 6-speed manual, sport, premium, nav, (non-M-sport) with about 55k. I love everything about this car except the colors are a bit blah for my taste these days. Maybe I'm getting old but there have been a few times when I couldn't spot my car in the parking lot! I primarily to commute to and from work about 15 miles each way and have an SUV for family duty.

The 335i is out of warranty now and I recently had to spend $1,100 to replace a water pump and thermostat. I fully expect other repairs to come up sooner or later so I need to get into something with a warranty for at least for a year or two. I'd like to have something of an interim car as I hope to do a late 2014 / early 2015 European delivery.

Over a year ago I took a 2-day driving class at the BMW Performance Driving School in South Carolina where I got to drive both 335i's with Steptronic and 135's with DCT. I actually preferred the 135i for the track events we used it for but wonder about living with it every day.

I have the opportunity to buy a very low mileage Sedona Red/Black/Aluminum 2011 135i with DCT, M-Sport, premium, nav, HK stereo, moonroof, etc. with only has 6k miles on the clock. Don't know anything about the owner and why the car has so few miles and I'm not sure if that should concern me or not. I really love the color of this car.

Feel free to chime in with pros and cons of each car, going from 4 doors to 2, from manual to DCT, differences is of the N54 to the N55 engine, etc. Whatever it is I would really appreciate any advice you can offer. Thanks!
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:39 AM
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The N54 is stronger than the N55. The DCT is quicker than the 6MT. The 335 is faster while the 135 more agile. Inside the overall look is the same but the 135 has more of a tighter cockpit feel. Both are 2 doors so can't comment on that item. Both cars are equipped pretty much the same throughout & will try to answer any specific questions you have.
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:22 AM
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Both perform rather nicely, I believe it all comes down to size and scale in reference to your physical presence.
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Old 08-08-2013, 05:34 AM
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I'd prefer the 135, it's lighter and feels more like an e46/e36 in nimbleness to me. Interior wise, the 335 has better materials, but you're looking for 1-2 years so no big deal.
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:10 AM
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Interior wise, the 335 has better materials, but you're looking for 1-2 years so no big deal.
I have both cars sitting on my driveway & you can not tell which one you are in materials wise.
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Old 08-08-2013, 07:17 AM
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I have both cars sitting on my driveway & you can not tell which one you are in materials wise.
Some of us are more picky; BMW cuts corners in the strangest ways - interior plastics is one of those ways. Top down I'm sure you don't hear much creakin' and rattlin'.
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I have the opportunity to buy a very low mileage Sedona Red/Black/Aluminum 2011 135i with DCT, M-Sport, premium, nav, HK stereo, moonroof, etc. with only has 6k miles on the clock. Don't know anything about the owner and why the car has so few miles and I'm not sure if that should concern me or not. I really love the color of this car.

Excellent.

Do THIS for a big step up from stock performance!
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:03 PM
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Note: I'm posting this on the 1 and the 3 series forums to get both perspectives.

I would love some advice on switching from a 335i to a 135i.

I currently drive a Space Gray/Black/Burl E90 335i 6-speed manual, sport, premium, nav, (non-M-sport) with about 55k. I love everything about this car except the colors are a bit blah for my taste these days. Maybe I'm getting old but there have been a few times when I couldn't spot my car in the parking lot! I primarily to commute to and from work about 15 miles each way and have an SUV for family duty.

The 335i is out of warranty now and I recently had to spend $1,100 to replace a water pump and thermostat. I fully expect other repairs to come up sooner or later so I need to get into something with a warranty for at least for a year or two. I'd like to have something of an interim car as I hope to do a late 2014 / early 2015 European delivery.

Over a year ago I took a 2-day driving class at the BMW Performance Driving School in South Carolina where I got to drive both 335i's with Steptronic and 135's with DCT. I actually preferred the 135i for the track events we used it for but wonder about living with it every day.

I have the opportunity to buy a very low mileage Sedona Red/Black/Aluminum 2011 135i with DCT, M-Sport, premium, nav, HK stereo, moonroof, etc. with only has 6k miles on the clock. Don't know anything about the owner and why the car has so few miles and I'm not sure if that should concern me or not. I really love the color of this car.

Feel free to chime in with pros and cons of each car, going from 4 doors to 2, from manual to DCT, differences is of the N54 to the N55 engine, etc. Whatever it is I would really appreciate any advice you can offer. Thanks!
I was actually pretty close to getting a 135i, but only test drove N54s. The biggest knock against the 1er compared to the 3er is the rear seat legroom, IMO. This said, the E92 coupe (which I have) really did well with this very specific trait considering how much I like the body shape, etc; The competition I found was much inferior with overall rear seat comfort, whether it be A5/S5 (very cramped), G35/37 (head hits the windshield even with average height), etc.

If the SUV is always used for family, then I don't see an issue. When you say "living with it everyday", it's not like it will be a long term ownership anyway, right? Go for variety! After all you prefer it for the track.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:36 PM
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Excellent.

Do THIS for a big step up from stock performance!
But, but, but, CAL ... look ... Dinan parts!!!! Oh the agony!!! and look at all the M3 stuff!!!

In addition, I would replace the weak stock tension arm bushing with the M3 or a powerflex, the gel filled stock unit is prone to fail very early.

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But, but, but, CAL ... look ... Dinan parts!!!! Oh the agony!!! and look at all the M3 stuff!!!

Well, they're only little parts and if the truth be known, Ground Control camber plates are the ones to have.
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If you are switching from the E90 335i to the 135, space is a very huge deal. The 1 series is VERY compact, and the rear seats are hardly useable by an adult. My friend just got the 2009 135i and we can only fit 3 people at a time. Not that you should car about rear seats.. you won't be sitting in them.

If it's just a personal play car, I'd say go for the 1er. I still prefer the 3er myself, Id rather have a little more size, I like how it looks
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Old 08-09-2013, 11:37 AM
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I was actually pretty close to getting a 135i, but only test drove N54s. The biggest knock against the 1er compared to the 3er is the rear seat legroom, IMO. This said, the E92 coupe (which I have) really did well with this very specific trait considering how much I like the body shape, etc; The competition I found was much inferior with overall rear seat comfort, whether it be A5/S5 (very cramped), G35/37 (head hits the windshield even with average height), etc.
EXACTLY my reasoning when I went shopping 3+ years ago. After the car got back from Europe, I had a passenger in back seat exactly once. I still somewhat regret not getting 1 series. OK, maybe a lot since I imposed a ban on test driving or even loaner driving 1 series after I got 128i AT as a loaner once. Thus the decision to not even go and look at F32, going straight for F22 this time around. After the test drive, we'll see if ED is written in the stars for May 2015 or will I have to settle for Zuffenhausen import.

Now, for OP, please consider that the car in question even officially stopped being a car for any use other than toy. Unofficially it was classified like that since I got stranded with a flat tire on a Labor Day two years ago. We purchased third car (see my signature) just a week ago.
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