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Old 11-13-2015, 07:54 AM
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Considering a 2013 550i M Sport

Hey guys, I'm completely new here. I'm looking for some information regarding the 4.4 liter engine in the MY 2013 550. My brother, who has sold BMWs for 30 years, says that V8 engine is a time bomb, and that I should consider a 535i instead. What do you guys know about the engine specifically in the MY 2013? I don't know the VIN or any other identification numbers, so it may not be very easy to conclude anything if BMW was making changes around this time. I have heard horror stories from people with the 2011-2012 model year, but I read somewhere that they made a technical update after 2012. What do you guys know? Should I consider this car with this engine or not?
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Old 11-13-2015, 09:18 AM
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I was considering the same from e60 M5.
Keeping the e60 rather than risk n63 explosion. All my bmw tech friends say stay far away!!!
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Old 11-13-2015, 12:03 PM
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Read the sticky at the top of the forum: http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=817273

The updated V8 started with the 2014 model year (and has 445 hp vs 400 in the 2013).
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Old 11-13-2015, 07:56 PM
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Thanks. I've actually already read that thread. I'm going to look for something smaller like a 335i with the turbo 6, I don't need a 5 series anyway. The only reason I inquired was because I found a good deal through my neighbor on a particular 550i. I wish it were a '14 instead of a '13, then I think I'd pull the trigger right now.

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Old 11-13-2015, 07:58 PM
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Sadly, the 550 is a poor choice. Go with a 535i or if you really want an 8 cylinder, an Audi S6 or a Mercedes E550.
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Old 11-13-2015, 08:17 PM
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Per my SA today.....

Stay FAR away from the N63, in all variations. He said there is a non-replaceable valve at the rear of the engine that fails requiring engine replacement; at ~$26K per. He said he's done 11 engine replacements since June.....
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Old 11-13-2015, 10:48 PM
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Per my SA today.....

Stay FAR away from the N63, in all variations. He said there is a non-replaceable valve at the rear of the engine that fails requiring engine replacement; at ~$26K per. He said he's done 11 engine replacements since June.....
Wow...

Was in the same boat as OP, with the dream being a 550i Msport. But thanks to the great folks here at the 'Fest, learned about the problems with the N63 engine which scared me away. I settled on a 2012 535i Msport. Got it Monday. Loving it!
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Old 11-14-2015, 01:28 AM
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Old 11-17-2015, 02:21 PM
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Thanks. I've actually already read that thread. I'm going to look for something smaller like a 335i with the turbo 6, I don't need a 5 series anyway. The only reason I inquired was because I found a good deal through my neighbor on a particular 550i. I wish it were a '14 instead of a '13, then I think I'd pull the trigger right now.
Agreed. If it was the MY 2014 550i with the 445HP N63TU, it would have been a GO !!
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:20 PM
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I've had no issues with my 2011 550i since I did the N63 campaign. Car is under warranty for another 4 years or 100,000 miles. Wouldn't own one out of warranty, but knock on wood it's been very reliable and extremely enjoyable.
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Old 11-17-2015, 04:47 PM
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You seem to be one of the fortunate ones with a good 550 tech.
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Old 11-17-2015, 06:40 PM
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I've had no issues with my 2011 550i since I did the N63 campaign. Car is under warranty for another 4 years or 100,000 miles. Wouldn't own one out of warranty, but knock on wood it's been very reliable and extremely enjoyable.
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You seem to be one of the fortunate ones with a good 550 tech.
Bingo...I think that's the key. When the CCP is not performed properly issues arise for example the new injectors are not torqued properly.



Also if the original injectors have ever fail and stick open the there a good change the valve seals get trashed which will result in excessive oil consumption or worse.



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Old 11-17-2015, 09:54 PM
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I wanted a V8 until I read about the BMW Car Care (Recall) program. I got a 2013 535i and I love it. No regrets
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I wanted a V8 until I read about the BMW Car Care (Recall) program. I got a 2013 535i and I love it. No regrets
Same here except mine's a '12....
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Old 11-18-2015, 08:43 AM
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2013 550i m Sport owner here with no issues whatsoever. I've enjoyed this car very much and even considered buying out my lease which is something I NEVER do. However, I would not own this car outside of the warranty period for obvious reasons. When it's time to give her up, I know it's not gonna be easy, but the right thing to do.
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Old 11-18-2015, 01:04 PM
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Per my SA today.....

Stay FAR away from the N63, in all variations. He said there is a non-replaceable valve at the rear of the engine that fails requiring engine replacement; at ~$26K per. He said he's done 11 engine replacements since June.....
Would like more on this as I have just reached out to a couple of BMW Level 1 techs regarding this and they have not heard anything of it.
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Old 11-18-2015, 04:42 PM
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Would like more on this as I have just reached out to a couple of BMW Level 1 techs regarding this and they have not heard anything of it.
He said there are 3 valves at the rear of the engine; one for coolant, one for oil and one that controls both (?). He said the oil valve fails and as it's not replaceable, the engine must be replaced. He said he expects a recall once BMW figures out how to make the valves replaceable.
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Old 11-18-2015, 05:14 PM
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He said there are 3 valves at the rear of the engine; one for coolant, one for oil and one that controls both (?). He said the oil valve fails and as it's not replaceable, the engine must be replaced. He said he expects a recall once BMW figures out how to make the valves replaceable.
At least so far, BMW appears to be making things right with the owners of N63s for the most part. I have been rather lucky with mine as I have put around 25k miles on it with the only issue being a headlight module.

As for people buying these cars, I would DEFINETELY make sure that it is a CPO car or a car under an extensive warranty. Also, do yourself a favor and change the oil every 5k miles and NEVER run cheap gas.
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