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F10 / F11 (2011 - 2016)
The sixth generation of the BMW 5 Series Sedan (F10) was produced from 2011 - 2016 with LCI updates arriving in 2014. In the US BMW offered a hatchback 5 Series Gran Truismo (F07) and the rest of the world also go a Station Wagon/Touring version F11.

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Old 03-29-2016, 10:34 AM
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2011 550i vs 2013 535i

Hello!

I currently drive a e65 750i and just had the valve stems re-done but there are a swarm of other issues with the car which is leading me to want to sell the car and pick up something else.

I was leaning towards the refreshed 5 series after driving a loaner 528i and fell in love.

What are some pros/cons of the 2013 535i vs 2011 550i? Is there any massive engine problems that come after 50K miles?

Both cars im looking at are around the 42K mile range. Would I be able to purchse BMW extended warranty to cover my arse for any known issues?

Thanks!

EDIT: I called my local BMW dealer and had them check the VIN on the 550i im looking at with 42K miles and they said the CCP was already done on the car. I would have to purchase a 3rd party warranty. Any reccomendations on that?

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Old 03-29-2016, 11:18 AM
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This is the CarFax on the car im looking to purchase:

http://www.carfax.com/VehicleHistory...&partner=CDM_U
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Old 03-29-2016, 11:21 AM
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I'd go with the 535, the i6 is a tested and great motor. The v8 from 11-13 has major problems and no one knows the long term issues with the N63 engine.
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I am sure if you look around a bit you will notice all the issues with the N63 (550). I would suggest the 2014+ 550 with a N63TU engine. For the most part the engine failures in the N63 have been remedied in the N63TU. If financially that isn't an option I would go with the 535 due to reliability concerns.

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Old 03-29-2016, 11:38 AM
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I am sure if you look around a bit you will notice all the issues with the N63 (550). I would suggest the 2013+ 550 with a N63TU engine. For the most part the engine failures in the N63 have been remedied in the N63TU. If financially that isn't an option I would go with the 535 due to reliability concerns.

Do you guys think its worth getting the 550i with a 3rd party warranty to cover my butt in case of relability issues?

Whats the going price for a 550i with n63tu?
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Old 03-29-2016, 11:41 AM
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Go with the 535. Mine was flawless for 63k miles.
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Old 03-29-2016, 11:51 AM
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Yeah I think ill go with a 535i 2013... just have to find one with MSPORT kit
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Old 03-29-2016, 12:13 PM
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I am sure if you look around a bit you will notice all the issues with the N63 (550). I would suggest the 2013+ 550 with a N63TU engine. For the most part the engine failures in the N63 have been remedied in the N63TU. If financially that isn't an option I would go with the 535 due to reliability concerns.

2013 had the N63. 2014+ is the N63tu.
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Go with the 535. Mine was flawless for 63k miles.
WHOA buddy. You pick up an F10 M5 and you don't send me a PM letting me know!!! Nice, my friend. Very nice (especially in black/black). Where did you get it?
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Old 03-29-2016, 02:15 PM
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WHOA buddy. You pick up an F10 M5 and you don't send me a PM letting me know!!! Nice, my friend. Very nice (especially in black/black). Where did you get it?
LOl, I just got it on Saturday. I was just thinking of getting in touch with you.
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No, no to a 2011 550...even with the extended warranty. Certainly something will come up that the warranty will not cover (battery, etc.). I LOVED my 2011 550, but what a piece of crap (from a reliability stand point). I now have a 2014 550 and it is much, much better. Had a few quirky problems but NOTHING like the 2011. Plus the 14 has ~45 more horsepower.
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Old 03-29-2016, 02:33 PM
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The seller of the 2011 550i msport said the n63 recall work had already been done on the car and i can purchase extended warranty. What do you guys think?
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I know it must be tempting, but I am going to bet you will regret it...

During 2014, my 2011 550 has these repairs (out of warranty) that I can recall:
Water pump (for turbos) $645
Lower radiator hose $733
Battery $500
Lower hose sensor $490
Plus the numerous Check Engine lights and/or rough idle

Just before the warranty ran out:
Fuel injectors
Steering rack
Radiator, etc., etc.

Maybe warranty will cover those billable repairs that I had, but the vehicle is unreliable. You'll be making 550i payments while driving a 3 series OR non-BMW loaner while your car is being constantly repaired.
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Old 03-29-2016, 02:48 PM
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So you're saying just take a 535i? I think it may be best but I can't find any msport around my area. I'd have to do aftermarket body kits

Edit: the 535i are 2013 with around 40k miles
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Yes, that's my 2 cents. You will be much happier in the long run.
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Old 03-29-2016, 02:52 PM
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Sounds good, I guess 535 it is. Just going to have to do some body mods on it.

Should I buy an extended warranty for the 535?
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Old 03-29-2016, 03:02 PM
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LOL, now that's a tough question. I have always been against extended warranties (blame Dave Ramsey). I would assume your new 535 will still have the balance of the standard warranty, so for the first few months you'll be covered. How much is the extended warranty? if it's a couple of grand, why not. That sounds like reasonable insurance against repairs. My only reference was on the 2011 550. BMW wanted over $5,000.

If your quote looks anything like that, maybe you DON'T get the warranty. Put the $3,500-$5,000 in the bank and save it for repairs. If your new ride turns out to be quite reliable you just banked a nice sized chunk of change. If the car has some issues (check this forum for common problems and average pricing) just pull money from the account.

Be advised, you'll probably be needing a brake job within two years and maybe a new battery too. If the extended warranty covers those items, maybe you should be biased towards getting it. BMW charges like $2,000 for the complete brake job and around $500 for an installed/reprogramed battery. If normal wear and tear is NOT covered, then it would be a NO GO for me.
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Sounds good, I guess 535 it is. Just going to have to do some body mods on it.

Should I buy an extended warranty for the 535?
Look all over the Country for a desirable CPO that's close to your price range and then offer them your price with shipping included. They might just take it.
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Look all over the Country for a desirable CPO that's close to your price range and then offer them your price with shipping included. They might just take it.
I'll second the CPO idea. We got a 2013 535 CPO last year and the protection of the warranty has been great. Just had all new brakes and rotors put on for nothing under it. CPO is great.
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Is there any big difference between 2011 and 2013 model interior like dash?
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Old 03-29-2016, 04:30 PM
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Im thinking of picking this up, looks good?

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...2906/overview/
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Im thinking of picking this up, looks good?

https://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/d...2906/overview/
The carfax on this one does not indicate that it's being sold as a CPO vehicle.
The other space gray car that appears on the same page with Msport indicates that it's a CPO vehicle. Call them to verify it and then choose the CPO unit and offer them about $2k less than asking price.
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The carfax on this one does not indicate that it's being sold as a CPO vehicle.
The other space car that appears on the same page with Msport indicates that it's a CPO vehicle. Call them to verify it and then choose the CPO unit and offer them about $2k less than asking price.
Thanks for the help. Looks like a good deal/car otherwiese?
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Thanks for the help. Looks like a good deal/car otherwiese?
Yes, just for comparison, the dealer gave me $28500 for my similar car with 63k miles on it.
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