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E36 /7 Z3 (1996-2002)
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Old 08-21-2013, 11:45 AM
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Is it really necessary to replace the strut mounts, what benefit do they provide?
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Old 08-21-2013, 05:38 PM
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They allow the struts to turn with the wheels and take the weight. I looked at mine when I replaced the struts at 32,000 miles. Their grease was dry and gone, but they turned without any gritty or notchy feeling. I packed more grease into them and reused them. If your car has high miles or you have any doubts, buy new ones. They can only be checked and replaced when the springs are out for changing struts.
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Old 11-04-2013, 09:25 PM
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Well I finally pulled the trigger and had Bilstein Touring installed all the way around last week! Man, what a difference, The handling is so much better, it tracks very well and the ride has improved significantly. I still get a bit of roll on sharp turns at speed. I also now realize how cheap tires effect the traction at speeds around corners. Thats my next upgrade, new tires, good ones. I used to like both Pirelli and Bridgestone Potenza's on my Alfa Spider Quad, I think the Pirelli were a bit stickier and handled well in cornering and wet conditions.

Thanks as always for your suggestions, directions and comments!

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Old 11-12-2013, 02:39 PM
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Thanks for asking the question, MCDZ. I am having the same issue with my '98. I'm at about 90,000 miles, and need to bring back that sports car feeling. My daily driver is an 09 328, and I swear it handles better than the Z. How is this possible? Anyway, I think I'll go with the suggestion to put Bilsteins on front and rear. But my question is should I also replace the bushings while I'm at it? or is that just a waste of $$?
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Old 11-12-2013, 02:56 PM
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1998 Z3 suspension recommendations please

I bought strut mounts for the front, but nothing for the shocks. A waste of money? If I had the cash I would have had them replace all bushings possible. Also my z has 164k miles so I'm picky about how much to invest in it. I do recommend the bilstein touring, but if your tires have worn poorly due to the bad struts like mine, replace them and you'll be very happy!

Good luck! I bought mine through Turner motor sports online, about $110. Each for the struts and $125 for the pair of shocks! If you ask them on the phone, you may get free shipping...

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Old 11-13-2013, 05:07 AM
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Thanks for asking the question, MCDZ. I am having the same issue with my '98. I'm at about 90,000 miles, and need to bring back that sports car feeling. My daily driver is an 09 328, and I swear it handles better than the Z. How is this possible? Anyway, I think I'll go with the suggestion to put Bilsteins on front and rear. But my question is should I also replace the bushings while I'm at it? or is that just a waste of $$?
Assuming nothing has been previously replace, your Z3 has worn out shocks, worn (if not worn out) bushings, and a dated rear suspension design. I would expect your 328 to handle better.

Definitely replace the rear shock mounts.

How long are you planning on keeping the Z3? Less than 40,000 miles, I'd pass on the other bushings. More than 40,000 miles, money well spent.

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Old 11-14-2013, 07:10 PM
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Well I finally pulled the trigger and had Bilstein Touring installed all the way around last week! Man, what a difference, The handling is so much better, it tracks very well and the ride has improved significantly. I still get a bit of roll on sharp turns at speed. I also now realize how cheap tires effect the traction at speeds around corners. Thats my next upgrade, new tires, good ones. I used to like both Pirelli and Bridgestone Potenza's on my Alfa Spider Quad, I think the Pirelli were a bit stickier and handled well in cornering and wet conditions.

Thanks as always for your suggestions, directions and comments!

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Old 12-12-2013, 05:07 PM
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1998 Z3 suspension recommendations please

Well here's a new problem that has popped it's ugly head again. I replaced both lower control arms in the front about 1.5 years ago, now my left front ball joint is sloppy and when on a lift you can wiggle the tire back and forth and up and down. My mech said I need to replace the entire left lower control arm with the ball joints. My question is, can I not just replace that ball joint without changing the entire control arm? My car is still shaking at 58-64 mph and I'm tired of all this at this point!

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Old 12-13-2013, 03:13 AM
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MCDz3, I bought just the replacement outer ball joints this past fall in preparation of "tightening" up my speedbuggy. I have not put them in yet, but will do so after I get the balance of my parts together. I just searched the net using lingo as "99 z3 outer ball joint" or phrases like that. Pricewise, they were about $40 each. If I get a chance to dig thru my stuff this weekend, I'll PM you the info.
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Old 12-13-2013, 05:57 AM
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Replacement Meyle HD ball joints are available. You just need to pull the arm off, press out the old joint and press in the new.
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Old 12-13-2013, 07:03 AM
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Here's parts and tool...
http://store.uucmotorwerks.com/categ...joint&x=19&y=6
http://www.harborfreight.com/3-4-qua...tor-99849.html
This shows ball joint work...
http://fauxsuperblogs.com/2845/contr...-arms-control/

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