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Old 10-25-2013, 01:53 PM
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Service interval coding

I have an F10 M5 LCI (ie 2014 model year).

Having looked at the FA it came with from factory, the service interval code is 8KA (20k miles/2years). I think that's too long for oil and want to change it to 8KL which is the usual 10k / 1 year, so it reminds me to go for service.

I can change it in the FA/VO. and apply that to the NBT, but it doesn't change the service interval shown on the screen. Any ideas which modules to apply the revised FA to / specific lines of code?

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Old 10-26-2013, 08:06 AM
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I have an F10 M5 LCI (ie 2014 model year).

Having looked at the FA it came with from factory, the service interval code is 8KA (20k miles/2years). I think that's too long for oil and want to change it to 8KL which is the usual 10k / 1 year, so it reminds me to go for service.

I can change it in the FA/VO. and apply that to the NBT, but it doesn't change the service interval shown on the screen. Any ideas which modules to apply the revised FA to / specific lines of code?
Code DME, and CAS.
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Code DME, and CAS.
Would it be fembody for a f30 as we don't have cas? Thanks
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Old 03-14-2014, 12:34 AM
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Yes, FEM_BODY then.
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Old 03-14-2014, 01:18 AM
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I wonder if the dealer would say anything. As I purchased a 5 year 80k km service plan. With the car going in more frequent but especially with the vo clear to see? In defense the BMW sib does say 8kl and mine was 11/13 production.
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Old 03-14-2014, 06:06 AM
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Code DME, and CAS.
Would this also apply to a E89 (X1) chassis?

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Not trying to resurrect old threads but this seemed to be the only one I could find referencing an F series and changing the service interval. My 2012 F10 535 just turned past 50K so the maintenance is all on me now. I'd like to reduce the service intervals in CBS to 10K to mimic the SA8KL new service intervals for the 2014 and up cars.

I had 8KC in my VO so I changed that to 8KL and then coded DME, CAS, and HU-CIC. Obviously I had to re-FDL code all of my settings in CAS and HU-CIC. The VO change did not change the service interval in iDrive; it still shows 15K. Anyone have any suggestions or has been able to get this to work?

For what it's worth my car is still on the i-level it left Dingolfing with. Any help would be appreciated
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Not trying to resurrect old threads but this seemed to be the only one I could find referencing an F series and changing the service interval. My 2012 F10 535 just turned past 50K so the maintenance is all on me now. I'd like to reduce the service intervals in CBS to 10K to mimic the SA8KL new service intervals for the 2014 and up cars.

I had 8KC in my VO so I changed that to 8KL and then coded DME, CAS, and HU-CIC. Obviously I had to re-FDL code all of my settings in CAS and HU-CIC. The VO change did not change the service interval in iDrive; it still shows 15K. Anyone have any suggestions or has been able to get this to work?

For what it's worth my car is still on the i-level it left Dingolfing with. Any help would be appreciated
You must Flash (not Code) DME with 8KL in FA.
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Old 12-29-2015, 09:23 PM
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You must Flash (not Code) DME with 8KL in FA.
Shawn to the rescue, appreciate the quick response!

I did a little digging and see there are some modes in E-sys around Complete Flash, etc. but I don't recall reading about flashing using E-sys. Is this possible w/ E-sys or something I'd need ISTA-P for? Appreciate all the help.
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Old 12-29-2015, 09:33 PM
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Shawn to the rescue, appreciate the quick response!

I did a little digging and see there are some modes in E-sys around Complete Flash, etc. but I don't recall reading about flashing using E-sys. Is this possible w/ E-sys or something I'd need ISTA-P for? Appreciate all the help.
I did a little more reading so it does seem like flashing should be possible via E-sys. I'm assuming for flashing I'll need the full psdzdata rather than the trimmed? If so, anyone have a link to the full set of files. Any warnings or things to be careful about when flashing DME?
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Old 12-29-2015, 09:42 PM
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I did a little more reading so it does seem like flashing should be possible via E-sys. I'm assuming for flashing I'll need the full psdzdata rather than the trimmed? If so, anyone have a link to the full set of files. Any warnings or things to be careful about when flashing DME?
Correct. PM sent.

As for the flashing Guide, you can deviate as follows:

You can connect Via VIN instead of Gateway URL.

If car has decent battery, you can flash DME on battery instead of charger. DME Flash only takes about 5 minutes.
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Old 12-29-2015, 09:47 PM
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Correct. PM sent.

As for the flashing Guide, you can deviate as follows:

You can connect Via VIN instead of Gateway URL.

If car has decent battery, you can flash DME on battery instead of charger. DME Flash only takes about 5 minutes.
Nice, thanks for the heads up. Will get these files downloaded, give it a try, and report back.
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So some good news and bad news. I was able to flash the DME and after performing a CBS reset with Rheingold the oil change and all other intervals where updated appropriately.

Problem is I get a chassis stabilization DSC issue now after flashing the DME. I pulled up the fault codes in Rheingold (attached).

Here's the fault descriptions:
The control units exchange information via the data bus.

An "interface error" (invalid signal) is stored when urgently required signals are only received in the form of a substitute value or as an "invalid signal".

The fault is logged when the partner control unit (=interface) transmits a substitute value or a value designated as invalid instead of the required information. In this case, a fault code should also be stored in the corresponding partner control unit.

The test plan indicates it wants me to encode the DSC control unit. Does this mean I need to flash DSC2 as well? I didn't see that as a dependency to flash DME. Help appreciated as always
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So some good news and bad news. I was able to flash the DME and after performing a CBS reset with Rheingold the oil change and all other intervals where updated appropriately.

Problem is I get a chassis stabilization DSC issue now after flashing the DME. I pulled up the fault codes in Rheingold (attached).

Here's the fault descriptions:
The control units exchange information via the data bus.

An "interface error" (invalid signal) is stored when urgently required signals are only received in the form of a substitute value or as an "invalid signal".

The fault is logged when the partner control unit (=interface) transmits a substitute value or a value designated as invalid instead of the required information. In this case, a fault code should also be stored in the corresponding partner control unit.

The test plan indicates it wants me to encode the DSC control unit. Does this mean I need to flash DSC2 as well? I didn't see that as a dependency to flash DME. Help appreciated as always
Encode means VO Code DSC, so I would VO Code it with the modified FA, and then clear Error Codes.
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Encode means VO Code DSC, so I would VO Code it with the modified FA, and then clear Error Codes.
VO Coded DSC2, cleared faults and they came back. Ideas or anywhere I can get more info to help troubleshoot?
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VO Coded DSC2, cleared faults and they came back. Ideas or anywhere I can get more info to help troubleshoot?
Not sure. Normally when DME is flashed, CAS and DSC are too, so maybe flash them as well.
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Need make sure all ECU's software were in same iStep level.
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Not sure. Normally when DME is flashed, CAS and DSC are too, so maybe flash them as well.
I can try that. Any concerns over flashing those two via connection over VIN? Anything else to look out for?

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Need make sure all ECU's software were in same iStep level.
Not sure I completely understand this. When you say all ECUs in the same iStep level wouldn't that only be possible by flashing every module on the car?
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I can try that. Any concerns over flashing those two via connection over VIN? Anything else to look out?
These should be fine via VIN too.
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These should be fine via VIN too.
ZGW seems to be a pre-req to DSC2. Does ZGW need to be flashed first as well?
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ZGW seems to be a pre-req to DSC2. Does ZGW need to be flashed first as well?
I would leave it alone.
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I would leave it alone.
I feel like i'm getting tired and making a stupid mistake. Ever seen this when trying to hit 'Start' on the flash? I only have he 4 options selected on DSC2 to flash.

TAL execution started.
VCM Update: VCM-Update is deactivated. VCM will not be updated. [C197]
[Exception - UNKNOWN] FA must not be null when trying to execute a TAL containing coding transactions
Fatal error while executing tal!
Asynchrone programming failed! [C049]
FA must not be null when trying to execute a TAL containing coding transactions [1358]
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I feel like i'm getting tired and making a stupid mistake. Ever seen this when trying to hit 'Start' on the flash? I only have he 4 options selected on DSC2 to flash.

TAL execution started.
VCM Update: VCM-Update is deactivated. VCM will not be updated. [C197]
[Exception - UNKNOWN] FA must not be null when trying to execute a TAL containing coding transactions
Fatal error while executing tal!
Asynchrone programming failed! [C049]
FA must not be null when trying to execute a TAL containing coding transactions [1358]
On TAL Processing Screen, hit the Read VIN from FA radio button, then hit the Read FA button, then Execute the TAL.
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On TAL Processing Screen, hit the Read VIN from FA radio button, then hit the Read FA button, then Execute the TAL.
That worked although I didn't like the results afterwards

I flashed DSC2 and CAS and now I'm running into 74 faults. Holy cow is it messed up.


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ZGW is the pre request almost for all other ECU, it should be the first thing to be upgraded.
At this point do we think I should flash ZGW as well hoping that will clear most of this out?

I'm guessing at some point I might as well just select everything and flash the entire car.
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