Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013)

E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013)
The E9X is the 4th evolution of the BMW 3 series including a highly tuned twin turbo 335i variant pushing out 300hp and 300 ft. lbs. of torque. BMW continues to show that it sets the bar for true driving performance! -- View the E9X Wiki

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #26  
Old 08-19-2012, 09:11 AM
CALWATERBOY's Avatar
CALWATERBOY CALWATERBOY is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: San Francisco
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 10,009
Mein Auto: 2009 E93 N54
Quote:
Originally Posted by laser View Post
Require your tire dealer to ceremoniously burn the old runflats so that they won't be resold to some unsuspecting sole ....
Many poor Mexican soles are old tires.

Do not let them burn.
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 08-19-2012, 09:13 AM
CALWATERBOY's Avatar
CALWATERBOY CALWATERBOY is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: San Francisco
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 10,009
Mein Auto: 2009 E93 N54
Quote:
Originally Posted by vikram1023 View Post
Also does using the run flat kits the cause the TMPS sensor needs to be replaces is this true.
Sometimes....

Conti Comfort Kit, not.
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 08-19-2012, 09:23 AM
CALWATERBOY's Avatar
CALWATERBOY CALWATERBOY is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: San Francisco
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 10,009
Mein Auto: 2009 E93 N54
Quote:
Originally Posted by vikram1023 View Post
I want to replace my tires as the tread 5 3/4 and the ride is very harsh now when hit bumps and manhole covers.

Is it a good option to go for regualr tires and buy and repair kit or go for run flats.
Newest gen RFT's still not as good as, say, Michelin PSS, several dimensions.

Not a disappointment like 2008 OEM RFT's either. However, below 60F and especially <50F, summer tire ride quality suffers. Depending on where you are in North Caroline, can be major.

Sure, sure....plenty warm now. But what about January?

FYI - I run Michelin PS2's, grossly better than the OEM Potenzas on my paws when I bought the car. Guessing M division thought they were better too.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 08-19-2012, 09:43 AM
bear-avhistory's Avatar
bear-avhistory bear-avhistory is offline
2014 435M-Sport/MPPK
Location: NC - USA
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,025
Mein Auto: 2014 435M-Sport/MPPK
Been running summer tires (Conti DW currenly on both BMW's) for as long as I have lived here with no issues other then snow. 1" will kill them & its time to take a 4X4 with M+S
__________________
Kevin

CURRENT:
2014 BMW 435M-Sport 8ZF
2013 BMW 135is 6MT conv JB4/ISO
2009 Ford Expedition 4X4 EL - 2009 V-Star
2003 Nissan Xterra 4X4 - 1998 Ford Ranger 4X4 Splash
FFR Cobra Mk-IV work in progress
PAST:
Very, Very Long List

Last edited by bear-avhistory; 08-19-2012 at 09:44 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 08-19-2012, 11:22 AM
vikram1023 vikram1023 is offline
2008 328i Black/Dakota
Location: NC
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 10
Mein Auto: Black 08 328i
Quote:
Originally Posted by CALWATERBOY View Post
Newest gen RFT's still not as good as, say, Michelin PSS, several dimensions.

Not a disappointment like 2008 OEM RFT's either. However, below 60F and especially <50F, summer tire ride quality suffers. Depending on where you are in North Caroline, can be major.

Sure, sure....plenty warm now. But what about January?

FYI - I run Michelin PS2's, grossly better than the OEM Potenzas on my paws when I bought the car. Guessing M division thought they were better too.
But I thought The DSW's are all season tires, wouldnt they perform well in winter.
I am in Raleigh NC.
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 08-19-2012, 11:30 AM
bear-avhistory's Avatar
bear-avhistory bear-avhistory is offline
2014 435M-Sport/MPPK
Location: NC - USA
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,025
Mein Auto: 2014 435M-Sport/MPPK
DWS all season DW summer both good in Raleigh
__________________
Kevin

CURRENT:
2014 BMW 435M-Sport 8ZF
2013 BMW 135is 6MT conv JB4/ISO
2009 Ford Expedition 4X4 EL - 2009 V-Star
2003 Nissan Xterra 4X4 - 1998 Ford Ranger 4X4 Splash
FFR Cobra Mk-IV work in progress
PAST:
Very, Very Long List
Reply With Quote
  #32  
Old 08-19-2012, 12:05 PM
CALWATERBOY's Avatar
CALWATERBOY CALWATERBOY is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: San Francisco
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 10,009
Mein Auto: 2009 E93 N54
Quote:
Originally Posted by vikram1023 View Post
But I thought The DSW's are all season tires, wouldnt they perform well in winter.
I am in Raleigh NC.
Yup - don't expect top handling - do expect excellent service, you locale.
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 08-19-2012, 02:34 PM
Kilgore Trout's Avatar
Kilgore Trout Kilgore Trout is offline
Chicks dig Wagons!
Location: Stuck in traffic south of Burbank
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,836
Mein Auto: E91
Quote:
Originally Posted by pointandgo View Post
I'm still a believer that technology marches on...therefore I vote for the BS RE960AS RFT (3rd Gen). Cheaper price than the original tire...promised softer ride...a mileage warranty, and all-season tread design. All this with a "free trial" IIRC.
Oh, I forgot...NO mileage penalty for a staggered fitment (as with the Michelin RF).

Not sure how the pricing works out vs. Conti if you figure in the ContiComfort kit pricing.

Attn, OP: DON'T count on a "goo" kit to get you out of trouble if you mount non-run-flat tires and you get a flat. They are only good for simple nail punctures in the IMMEDIATE tread area...and YES they will clog your TPMS, requiring a replacement (about $55 through Tire Rack).

I have those tires. If there is a real improvement in ride, it is subtle.
__________________
2009 E91 Montego Blue w/ Gray Dakota 6AT ZPP/Logic7/Sirius/Idrive/Butt warmers/6FL/PCD/CA/6NL/Xenons
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 08-19-2012, 09:13 PM
vikram1023 vikram1023 is offline
2008 328i Black/Dakota
Location: NC
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 10
Mein Auto: Black 08 328i
What do these stand for can i see somewhere all the abbreviations. ZPP/6FL/PCD/CA/6NL
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 08-30-2012, 09:54 PM
vikram1023 vikram1023 is offline
2008 328i Black/Dakota
Location: NC
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 10
Mein Auto: Black 08 328i
Quote:
Originally Posted by captainaudio View Post
Thats what I ordered. Also had to order 4 new rims since I found out that 3 of the 4 on the car were bent.

Low profile tires and NYC are not a good match.



CA
Hi CA,
There is $100 rebate at discount tire and i am planing to get then tomorrow.
how is the performance until now on your DWS tires.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 08-30-2012, 10:47 PM
captainaudio's Avatar
captainaudio captainaudio is offline
Worlds Foremost Authority
Location: Upper East Side Manhattan - Boca Raton Florida
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 13,703
Mein Auto: 335i E93 - 750Lix
Quote:
Originally Posted by vikram1023 View Post
Hi CA,
There is $100 rebate at discount tire and i am planing to get then tomorrow.
how is the performance until now on your DWS tires.
So far very impressed. Good tight handling, quiet and excellent ride quality. I like them better than the Pirelli P_Zero Neros that they replaced and they are an order of magnitude better than the OEM Bridgestone RFTs that the Pirellis replaced.

The combination of the Conti tires and the Koni FSD shocks have transformed the car.

CA
__________________

Drivers Club at Lime Rock
The Glen Club
International Motor Racing Research Center
BMWCCA
Cayman Club Nor'Easters
Madison Ave. Sports Car Driving and Chowder Society (Only a Vice President)
Sports Car Club of America
Polish Racing Drivers of America (PRDA)
American Mural Project
Simeone Foundation Automotive Museum
Mount Washington Observatory
Society of Automotive Historians

Last edited by captainaudio; 08-31-2012 at 06:41 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 08-31-2012, 01:56 PM
vikram1023 vikram1023 is offline
2008 328i Black/Dakota
Location: NC
 
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 10
Mein Auto: Black 08 328i
Quote:
Originally Posted by captainaudio View Post
So far very impressed. Good tight handling, quiet and excellent ride quality. I like them better than the Pirelli P_Zero Neros that they replaced and they are an order of magnitude better than the OEM Bridgestone RFTs that they replaced.

The combination of the Conti tires and the Koni FSD shocks have transformed the car.

CA
OK, I will get them installed at discount tire, the sales person was insisting on the Michelin MXV4, but i am going with the conti's.

Thanks very much for your replies.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 08-31-2012, 02:52 PM
Kilgore Trout's Avatar
Kilgore Trout Kilgore Trout is offline
Chicks dig Wagons!
Location: Stuck in traffic south of Burbank
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,836
Mein Auto: E91
Quote:
Originally Posted by CALWATERBOY View Post
Many poor Mexican soles are old tires.

Do not let them burn.
If they are run flat soles, do they have to carry the conti comfort kit?
__________________
2009 E91 Montego Blue w/ Gray Dakota 6AT ZPP/Logic7/Sirius/Idrive/Butt warmers/6FL/PCD/CA/6NL/Xenons
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 08-31-2012, 04:55 PM
captainaudio's Avatar
captainaudio captainaudio is offline
Worlds Foremost Authority
Location: Upper East Side Manhattan - Boca Raton Florida
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 13,703
Mein Auto: 335i E93 - 750Lix
Quote:
Originally Posted by vikram1023 View Post
OK, I will get them installed at discount tire, the sales person was insisting on the Michelin MXV4, but i am going with the conti's.

Thanks very much for your replies.
I think you will be very happy with your choice. We are on a weekend excursion to Connecticut and the tires are great on the New England twisties.

CA
__________________

Drivers Club at Lime Rock
The Glen Club
International Motor Racing Research Center
BMWCCA
Cayman Club Nor'Easters
Madison Ave. Sports Car Driving and Chowder Society (Only a Vice President)
Sports Car Club of America
Polish Racing Drivers of America (PRDA)
American Mural Project
Simeone Foundation Automotive Museum
Mount Washington Observatory
Society of Automotive Historians
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 08-31-2012, 05:03 PM
madurodave's Avatar
madurodave madurodave is offline
BMW Enthusiast!
Location: NH
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 5,574
Mein Auto: 2007 Z4+X3, 2006 530Xi
Quote:
Originally Posted by captainaudio View Post
I think you will be very happy with your choice. We are on a weekend excursion to Connecticut and the tires are great on the New England twisties.

CA
Totally agree. I love my Conti DWS on my Z4 and my wife's 530xi. Great tires!

I also bought the BMW Mobility kit (20% off) for the Z4.

The 530 has a spare.
__________________
Madurodave

My garage: 2007 BMW Z4 3.0si Manual, 2007 BMW X3, 2006 BMW 530xi

Retired: 1998 BMW Z3

Member of BMWCCA!

Last edited by madurodave; 08-31-2012 at 05:10 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #41  
Old 08-31-2012, 08:04 PM
Tom K. Tom K. is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Maryland
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 2,561
Mein Auto: '07 328iT.'13 Boxster
Quote:
Originally Posted by vikram1023 View Post
OK, I will get them installed at discount tire, the sales person was insisting on the Michelin MXV4, but i am going with the conti's.

Thanks very much for your replies.
While the MXV4 is a touring all season tire, the DWS is a high performance A/S - and costs much less as well.

I'd find a different sales person.

Tom
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 09-12-2012, 04:37 AM
matts335 matts335 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Virginia
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 433
Mein Auto: 2009 335xdrive (E90)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout View Post
I have those tires. If there is a real improvement in ride, it is subtle.
I'm assuming that is the RE960AS version you are referring to. So you do not find the ride quality to be that much more comfortable/soft? What are you coming from? If I remember correctly, you have a non-sport e91, so you have the 17".

I have the 17" tires, and originally had the conti pro contact SSRs, which I had no issues with, but then got new wheels from someone that had the bridgestone turanzas. There didn't seem to be a big difference, but now that they are getting up there in mileage the tire noise is getting unacceptable (still plenty of tread left).

So basically, i'm looking to either get the conti's again, or these new RE960AS (price isnt' that different). Do you have any other thoughts/input on your new tires? All the reviews seem to indicate these things are wonderful, so i'm curious about your real world assessment.

(tried to send a PM, but your mailbox was full)
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 09-12-2012, 05:13 AM
vrmoreno3 vrmoreno3 is offline
Registered User
Location: Alabama
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 68
Mein Auto: 2008 335i
I opted for the Conti DWS due to cost and being laid off at the time. Definately a performance difference as they tend to "sway" in corners, it feels like your drifting slightly. The Conti are much quieter and half the cost, all season and high perormance. I do miss the RFT, as they could bite the asphalt more agressively.
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 09-12-2012, 05:51 AM
bear-avhistory's Avatar
bear-avhistory bear-avhistory is offline
2014 435M-Sport/MPPK
Location: NC - USA
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 2,025
Mein Auto: 2014 435M-Sport/MPPK
Quote:
Originally Posted by vikram1023 View Post
Also does using the run flat kits the cause the TMPS sensor needs to be replaces is this true.
Possibly, I have had trouble with mine getting an error message "TPMS inoperative" & beeping all over the place. Used my JB4 programing to shut it off.
__________________
Kevin

CURRENT:
2014 BMW 435M-Sport 8ZF
2013 BMW 135is 6MT conv JB4/ISO
2009 Ford Expedition 4X4 EL - 2009 V-Star
2003 Nissan Xterra 4X4 - 1998 Ford Ranger 4X4 Splash
FFR Cobra Mk-IV work in progress
PAST:
Very, Very Long List
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 09-12-2012, 06:09 AM
55's Avatar
55 55 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: CANADA
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 557
Mein Auto: 2009 e91 X-drive, 6MT
I have 16" RE960AS. Like them very much compare to 17" ***1054;***1045;***1052;. The ride and handling are so much better. Those OEM bricks used to jump over bumps, when taking a ramp, the car was shifted sideways, not very pleasant. But remember-my suspension is not great, it is X-drive.
I understand that the size is not the same, but the difference is big.
Had also 18" go flats DWS and was very happy with them, but could't stand the spare donut in my luggage compartment.
__________________
09
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 09-13-2012, 07:42 AM
Roger Evans Roger Evans is offline
Roger E
Location: Brookville,Ohio
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 2
Mein Auto: 328i
I just replaced my continental run flats on my 2008 328i with 52000 miles. The Yokohama 580 's nonrun flats give me the ride and handling I expected for daily driving. If I were to race or travel in remote places with NO AAA then the run flats have merit. Otherwise they are too rough and loud . Stearing is a bit squishy if you are a very fast driver in the curves. most of us never notice the differnece. THe BMW suspesion is a great touring match with regular tires given my experience . Buy a can of the Green of green slime

Roger E.

Ohio
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 09-13-2012, 07:57 AM
Kilgore Trout's Avatar
Kilgore Trout Kilgore Trout is offline
Chicks dig Wagons!
Location: Stuck in traffic south of Burbank
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 4,836
Mein Auto: E91
Quote:
Originally Posted by matts335 View Post
I'm assuming that is the RE960AS version you are referring to. So you do not find the ride quality to be that much more comfortable/soft? What are you coming from? If I remember correctly, you have a non-sport e91, so you have the 17".

I have the 17" tires, and originally had the conti pro contact SSRs, which I had no issues with, but then got new wheels from someone that had the bridgestone turanzas. There didn't seem to be a big difference, but now that they are getting up there in mileage the tire noise is getting unacceptable (still plenty of tread left).

So basically, i'm looking to either get the conti's again, or these new RE960AS (price isnt' that different). Do you have any other thoughts/input on your new tires? All the reviews seem to indicate these things are wonderful, so i'm curious about your real world assessment.

(tried to send a PM, but your mailbox was full)
I have 17 225/45 at every corner. It came with the stock Turanzas, which were meh. Ride and noise were not issues, but they did not wear well and handling was poor, particularly at the end of the tire lifespan.

Switched to summer only Kuhmos. The summer performance tires were a major improvement in handling, slightly noisier, and rode about the same. They wore poorly, and they were replaced after just about two years.

Switched to the new 3G potenzas. Overall, they are fine. They are noticeably less sticky than the summer tires though and the ride comfort is only a modest improvement. Nice tires, but not the paradigm shift that is advertised.
__________________
2009 E91 Montego Blue w/ Gray Dakota 6AT ZPP/Logic7/Sirius/Idrive/Butt warmers/6FL/PCD/CA/6NL/Xenons
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 09-13-2012, 08:11 AM
55's Avatar
55 55 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: CANADA
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 557
Mein Auto: 2009 e91 X-drive, 6MT
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kilgore Trout View Post

Switched to the new 3G potenzas. Overall, they are fine. They are noticeably less sticky than the summer tires though and the ride comfort is only a modest improvement. Nice tires, but not the paradigm shift that is advertised.
It is interesting. I was wondering how are they in 17" and 18" sizes, because with 16" I feel a huge improvement.
__________________
09
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 09-13-2012, 08:52 AM
Tom K. Tom K. is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Maryland
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 2,561
Mein Auto: '07 328iT.'13 Boxster
Quote:
Originally Posted by 55 View Post
It is interesting. I was wondering how are they in 17" and 18" sizes, because with 16" I feel a huge improvement.
Good to know as the 2nd generation Bridgestone EL42s on my E91 are 16". They do OK although the wet traction is nothing to write home about. When pumped up to 35/42 lbs., the handling is surprisingly good, but the ride suffers (surprise, surprise!).

Looks like I'll replace them with the 960 AS RFTs when the time comes.

Tom
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 09-13-2012, 09:05 AM
55's Avatar
55 55 is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: CANADA
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 557
Mein Auto: 2009 e91 X-drive, 6MT
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom K. View Post
Good to know as the 2nd generation Bridgestone EL42s on my E91 are 16". They do OK although the wet traction is nothing to write home about. When pumped up to 35/42 lbs., the handling is surprisingly good, but the ride suffers (surprise, surprise!).

Looks like I'll replace them with the 960 AS RFTs when the time comes.

Tom
Just remember: I feel improvement compare to 17" OEMs, so it is not a clean experiment. But my 16" are quiet. The ride and handling- I can't wish better with that so-so suspension.
__________________
09
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:33 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms