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Old 07-18-2016, 11:41 AM
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Cleaning BMW Wheels

What products do you guys use to conquer brake dust? Any favorite tire dressing products, or do you go without? Made this quick video this morning:

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Old 07-19-2016, 07:28 AM
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Sonax Full Effect and Optimum Opti-Bond Gel. Long lasting shine with minimal sling.
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Old 07-19-2016, 07:44 AM
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I just use an all purpose cleaner (Optimum Power Clean) to clean my wheels and tires. I have the tires coated with Turtle Wax Endura Shine tire coat kit. This stuff was so easy to apply! It's been 3 weeks and it looks like I just put it on yesterday. I did 3 coats. Who would have thought a TW product could be so good? I read about it on the AutoGeek detailing forum.

Before I did the coating, I was dressing the tires with either Opti-bond or Megs Endura shine.
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Old 07-19-2016, 08:00 AM
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my steps.

1. start with a DRY and cool to the touch wheel.
2. Spray diablo gel wheel cleaner on wheel liberally.
3. wait for about 1 minute
4. Agitate. I always agitate.
5. start with the tire, scrub until no brown (should be ok if washed regularly).
6. get at the lugs
7. use big, boar bristle brush for face of wheel and where ever else it can fit
8. speed jr wheel to go in between spokes and reach all parts of the barrel and nook and cranny (this brush can be bent for easier access).
9. rinse thoroughly
10. I use Costco Microfiber towels to dry wheels, 1 per wheel.
11. Then finish off the tires with Wolfgang Black Diamond tire gel.

With that said, when I got the car, after I washed and dryed wheels. I immediately followed with Wolfgang Uber Ceramic and coated the wheels.



Wolfgang Uber Ceramic Coating
Chemical Guys Diablo gel wheel cleaner (1-2 times a month).
1x a Year, Wolfgang Uber Wheel cleaner
Wolfgang Black Diamond tire gel
Speed Jr Wheel brush for barrel and between caliper and barrel.
Boar bristle brush for the spokes/windows
A 1inch boar bristle brush for the lug nuts and nook and cranny of the wheels
a stiff brush for the tire.

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Old 07-19-2016, 10:02 AM
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MacGuire's is the best I've ever used.

I also like Wheelwax. I apply that several times per year
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Old 07-19-2016, 10:29 AM
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Sonax Full Effect and Optimum Opti-Bond Gel. Long lasting shine with minimal sling.
This is my wheel/tire cleaning duo too. It works extremely well, and is safe for the wheel finish to boot.
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Old 07-23-2016, 07:07 AM
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Thanks for the responses. How does that wolfgang ceramic coating hold up? I wanted a ceramic coating for my new BBS wheels but it's $130!
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Old 07-24-2016, 07:29 AM
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Thanks for the responses. How does that wolfgang ceramic coating hold up? I wanted a ceramic coating for my new BBS wheels but it's $130!

Get a tube of Optimum Gloss-Coat and do it yourself. I've got 5 years on the application to my wheels, and it's still an easy cleanup. (Still need to clean, rather than just spray, but results are perfect)
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Old 08-08-2016, 01:11 PM
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I clean my wheels and tires with Meguiars D101. The wheels at a 10:1 ratio and hit the tires with a foaming spray bottle and Megs at full strength or 2:1. I then hit the tires with Griots Black Shine Tire and Trim Coating.
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Old 08-09-2016, 06:24 AM
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I've started using Iron X by CarPro on my wheels. Works similar to Sonax but the Iron X lasts much longer as the sprayer applies a fine mist. I'm lucky if I get 3 cleanings from a bottle of Sonax.
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Old 08-09-2016, 06:35 AM
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Simply water and car wash soap. This works well if you do it every week though.
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Old 08-10-2016, 09:47 PM
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Sonax. I washed my wheels after 1 year. They were full baked with brake dust but Sonax cut through and made the wheels look like spanking new. Great product.
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Old 08-11-2016, 02:18 PM
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I may have to try this Sonax everybody is raving about. I see that they also have it in a gallon size so worth getting it if I like it ...
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Old 08-11-2016, 07:46 PM
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Try the Iron X by CarPro. Lasts much longer and essentially does the same thing.
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Old 08-11-2016, 09:47 PM
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I used Optimum Opti-Coat, a "permanent coating," on my wheels two years ago, seems to be still holding. My regular car wash solution (ONR) is enough to get them clean. I never let them get too bad. My rims have lots of nooks and crannies, would not want to have to seal them all the time. If I hadn't coated, I would use CarPro Hydro2, a spray wax, which I use on my wife's rims. Seems to last 6-8 weeks. It's not permanent, but it's very easy to apply. Spray on, rinse off. I also like Iron-X, but I only use it every couple of months, to me, it's too expensive to use as a regular wheel cleaner.
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Old 08-11-2016, 10:30 PM
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The simplest solution, at least with the brake pads that come stock on an E46, is to replace those pads with Akebono Euroceramic pads. They work just fine, and they produce virtually no noticeable dust at all. I got tired of cleaning off brake dust all the time (or looking at it when I didn't); now I just wash the rims with a sponge and soapy water like I do the rest of the car (leaving the rims for last, of course).
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Old 08-12-2016, 04:10 AM
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The simplest solution, at least with the brake pads that come stock on an E46, is to replace those pads with Akebono Euroceramic pads.
Have you noticed the difference in the initial bite? Ceramic pads loose that fast grip when you first press on the brakes. I've noticed it in my wifes E90 328i. Brakes work fine with ceramic but you can feel the difference.

IMO, I'd rather clean my rims and keep that superior grip.
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Old 08-12-2016, 05:52 AM
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Have you noticed the difference in the initial bite? Ceramic pads loose that fast grip when you first press on the brakes. I've noticed it in my wifes E90 328i. Brakes work fine with ceramic but you can feel the difference.

IMO, I'd rather clean my rims and keep that superior grip.
Yes, you're right--there is a difference. The ceramic brake pads are more like ordinary pads; they bite but you have to squeeze down on them, so to speak. You get used to it and adjust your driving. The oem pads, however, do bite much faster and better. If I were tracking the car, I might keep the oem pads and put up with the dust.
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Old 08-12-2016, 06:41 AM
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Yes, you're right--there is a difference. The ceramic brake pads are more like ordinary pads; they bite but you have to squeeze down on them, so to speak. You get used to it and adjust your driving. The oem pads, however, do bite much faster and better. If I were tracking the car, I might keep the oem pads and put up with the dust.
I'm not used to hearing that. Haha. I usually get into a debate about brakes with my brother and he won't admit that OEM pads perform better. He hates cleaning his rims.
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Old 08-12-2016, 10:40 PM
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Simply water and car wash soap. This works well if you do it every week though.
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I wash with regular car wash soap & Wheel Woolies. The wheels are coated PBL Diamond Wheel Coating.

IMO, all of those harsh cleaners are unnecessary if your wheels are properly prepped.
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Old 08-17-2016, 03:19 AM
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Another vote for Sonax. It really helps loosen the dirt and brake dust.
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Old 08-17-2016, 08:12 AM
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The simplest solution, at least with the brake pads that come stock on an E46, is to replace those pads with Akebono Euroceramic pads. They work just fine, and they produce virtually no noticeable dust at all. I got tired of cleaning off brake dust all the time (or looking at it when I didn't); now I just wash the rims with a sponge and soapy water like I do the rest of the car (leaving the rims for last, of course).
How much did you pay for a set of those?
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Old 08-17-2016, 08:28 AM
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I just removed a set of ceramic brake pads (not Akebono) that I installed in October and put OEM pads back on. I want my brakes to work, and work well. The ceramic pads did not do that. I'll deal with the dust to have optimally performing brakes.
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Old 08-18-2016, 03:36 PM
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How much did you pay for a set of those?
I don't recall, but ECS Tuning has a set of front and rear akebono euro ceramic pads for about $150.
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Old 08-27-2016, 10:00 AM
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I have used 6-7 different brands of pads over the last 13 years I have been driving BMW's. I have always been most impressed with the OEM BMW pads with them being quite and having a great bite. The dust is the trade off and is very frustrating, especially if you try to keep a set of style 42 BBS clean. Ceramic third party pads dust much less but I was never happy with their performance under normal daily driving conditions.
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