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Old 05-07-2002, 03:16 PM
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Mein Auto: '10 C2S, '04 4Runner
Alpine MP3 CD changer in the car and working..

'99 540i, no DSP, lotsa aftermarket stuff (amp, MBQuarts, etc).
Alpine CHA-S634 CD/MP3 changer
Alpine KCA-130B Ai-Net/M-Bus adapter
Soundgate ABMW35V4 BMW/Alpine M-Bus adapter

CD Changer mounted in the stock/OEM location (perfect fit):

Soundgate adapter with Alpine KCA-130B cable

Lotsa tracks on this CD!


Yes, it works, and the sound quality is excellent, but navigating the discs will take some patience. For whatever reason the Soundgate adapter causes "lagtime" when pressing the track +/- buttons on the dash or steering wheel, so you can't hit the buttons really fast to go forward/backwards through the MP3s/tracks... In fact, if you push the + button too fast, the track numbers actually start going backwards?!?! But you can still go at a reasonable speed.

If you have >99 MP3 files on a CD, in order to get to #100, you have to go all the way up to #99, then hit + one more time and although the display will say "01" you're actually on 100. Or, you could start at the "real" 01, and hit the - button. In my case, this CD had 146 files on it, so if you hit "-" from track 01, the display says 47 (hope my math is right), and from there you can keep hitting "-" until you get to 01, at which point it wouldn't flip back to 99 unless I held down "-" to get manual seek.

Anyways, the interface is a little quirky and it's easy to get lost, but at least it works! At the very least it's still a 6CD changer just like before (though with the Soundgate-induced lagtime as I mentioned).

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Old 05-07-2002, 03:45 PM
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So the question now is if there's an AiNet jack somewhere where that 1667RF display unit can be plugged in without cutting signal and control to the Soundgate...
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Old 05-07-2002, 04:06 PM
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is the adaptor and cd changer fairly easy to install? is the adaptor a simple plug in at the back of the changer or do you need to take out the dash to do that?

I have a '02 325ci w/ Nav and HK...

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Old 05-07-2002, 04:20 PM
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is the adaptor and cd changer fairly easy to install? is the adaptor a simple plug in at the back of the changer or do you need to take out the dash to do that?

I have a '02 325ci w/ Nav and HK...

TIA
All the wiring is plug and play. Super easy. Mechanically, the Alpine is identical to the OEM BMW CD changer and will mount in the same location using the same brackets.

It took me about 15 minutes to remove the OEM CD changer and install the new one.

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Old 05-07-2002, 05:14 PM
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I ordered the Soundgate adapter last week but haven't received it yet.

Looking forward to adding this system to my car... thanks for the post, glad to hear it went without a hitch.

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Old 05-07-2002, 07:25 PM
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This is exactly what I've been waiting for. I can fit every CD I own and all the napster MP3's I've downloaded into 6 disks!

You list 2 adapters. Could you describe the purpose of the 2 in a little more detail and the details of how they plug together.

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Old 05-07-2002, 09:51 PM
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Thanks for the update, I hope it works out for you . I hope to be giving this a try as well as soon money shows up
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Old 05-07-2002, 10:41 PM
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You list 2 adapters. Could you describe the purpose of the 2 in a little more detail and the details of how they plug together.

Thanks - JP
The factory BMW harness uses something called Alpine I-Bus. The Soundgate box converts I-Bus to M-Bus. The KCA-130B cable converts M-Bus to Ai-Net (Alpine's latest bus standard). The CD changer has an Ai-Net connector on it.

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Old 05-13-2002, 04:50 PM
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1. What was the cost?
2. Is there a direct I-bus to AINet-bus adapter?
3. Can you use the "random" feature?
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Old 05-13-2002, 05:39 PM
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AK check your PM when you get a chance, I sent you a PM a few days ago...

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Old 05-14-2002, 07:58 AM
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1. What was the cost?
See this thread.

My only question is can you have the mp3s in directories on the CD?
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Old 05-15-2002, 01:39 PM
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I have a 2001 330ci with Harmon Kardon. I am wired for a cd changer. Will this alpine mp3 player setup work for me? This sounds to be the ultimate setup, seeing that it would be cheaper than the OEM setup[
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See this thread.
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Does this Alpine CD changer have the mounting bracket for my 01 530i without NAV?

Will you still be able to play the single CD on top of the head unit after the installation of the cd changer?

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Old 11-16-2005, 06:53 PM
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Get a IPOD

Why get a changer when you can get a IPOD.

With a Ice System simple install and good sound.
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:13 PM
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I use an Alpine CHA-S634 and an iPod using this. Works with almost any BMW head unit in cars with iBus (all but latest 3,5 and 7), functionality varies with head unit.

Looks like this on my Say Nav screen:



No other interface I know of can give you the MP3 track data from the Alpine AI-Net on a stock BMW head unit.
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:17 PM
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I use an Alpine CHA-S634 and an iPod using this. Works with almost any BMW head unit in cars with iBus (all but latest 3,5 and 7), functionality varies with head unit.

No other interface I know of can give you the MP3 track data from the Alpine AI-Net on a stock BMW head unit.
That looks really great! Does the iPod charge while hooked up to the vehicle?
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Old 11-17-2005, 12:56 PM
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That looks really great! Does the iPod charge while hooked up to the vehicle?
Yes, it interfaces to the iPod through the Alpine KCA-420i.
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Old 12-03-2005, 01:02 PM
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I'm looking into this setup for my 2005 330ci. Logjam electronics shows that the adapters are only good up to MY 2004. Has anyone installed this setup in an '05 car? I have Nav and H/K if it matters.

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I'm looking into this setup for my 2005 330ci. Logjam electronics shows that the adapters are only good up to MY 2004. Has anyone installed this setup in an '05 car? I have Nav and H/K if it matters.

tia,
Blitzsafe and the Soundgate adapters are good on all E46's, except if they have NAV. Blitzsafe for years promised an adapter that would work with NAV but have never come through.
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Old 12-04-2005, 10:53 AM
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Blitzsafe and the Soundgate adapters are good on all E46's, except if they have NAV. Blitzsafe for years promised an adapter that would work with NAV but have never come through.
Glad I asked, I have Nav. Thanks LDV!
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Straigth answer please - CD changer for '04 330i

Will this setup work with my 2004 330i w/Business CD? I don't think the car has DSP because I was told that the 3-series doesn't have that option. Is that true? How would I tell if it does or doesn't have DSP?

Alpine 6-Disc MP3 CD Changer CHA-S634
Alpine Ai-Net to M-Bus Adapter KCA-130B
Soundgate Adapter ABMW35V5

My local installer is clueless and gives me a different answer everytime I ask. BTW, does anyone know of a GOOD car audio guy in Tucson?

Also, is there a way to install satellite and have it controlled through the stock head unit?
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Old 12-17-2005, 07:45 AM
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Will this setup work with my 2004 330i w/Business CD? I don't think the car has DSP because I was told that the 3-series doesn't have that option. Is that true? How would I tell if it does or doesn't have DSP?

Alpine 6-Disc MP3 CD Changer CHA-S634
Alpine Ai-Net to M-Bus Adapter KCA-130B
Soundgate Adapter ABMW35V5

My local installer is clueless and gives me a different answer everytime I ask. BTW, does anyone know of a GOOD car audio guy in Tucson?

Also, is there a way to install satellite and have it controlled through the stock head unit?
See my sig.

I still do not understant why people get the impression the E-46 3 series have DSP. This seems to be a recurring questions but I am not sure where this assumption is coming from as DSP has never been available on those cars. The speaker symbol in the center console activates the H/K spatializer.

There is no need to find an installer. The MP3 CD changer is an easy self install. There have been many illustrated installation instructions posted like this one.

The stock head unit is able to control either the BMW OEM Sirius tuner or and XM Direct tuner with a Blitzsafe adapter. Again all of these are a quick install that have been documented on this board.
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