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Old 06-27-2004, 04:30 PM
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you guys have cleaner cars than mine at the autox! lol.

i haven't been out to many NJ autox's this year-- maybe i'll see some of you out on long island (NYBMWCCA)...
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Gee Al.. How did you get the pictures posted by 3:20pm?




It was great meeting Al for the first time, and congrats to Elwood for taking 2nd place again in our class. . Believe it or not I did manage two times that were faster than Elwood's 2nd place time, except for the minor detail that I hit THREE cones on each of thos runs. Elwood also had another run that was faster than all of them, but he hit his favorite cone there the end.

Al also had a good day, but since 83.2% of his engine's power is sucked up by his automatic transmission, he was at an unfair disadvantage from the beginning.

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Gee Al.. How did you get the pictures posted by 3:20pm?




It was great meeting Al for the first time, and congrats to Elwood for taking 2nd place again in our class. .
rumratt, were you the guy bitching because I beat you out by 2 tenths? I was driving the dark green Z3 in D. Came in 3rd, probably 3 or 4 tenths behind elwood.

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I had a blast yesterday, and despite displayed an admirable amount of suckage in the autocross skills dept, I learned a lot, and did get better as the day went on. I'm pretty sure rumratt won't be finishing last place anymore as long as I keep showing. I'm also pretty sure Elwood is going to be impossible to catch by the end of the season -- after watching 2 of his runs, I can definitely say I'm impressed.

Unfortunately, I had to leave by 1pm, so I didn't get any afternoon runs in. I also don't think my power sapping steptronic particularly liked the autocross, going into "Limp" mode on the NJ Turnpike dropping from 5th to 4th. A reboot fixed it... I'll have to keep an eye on it.

These were taken during the last of the first group's morning run:

Pics of Elwood

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Thanks to Elwood for taking the pics of rumratt and me (and thanks for not dropping the camera ).
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Old 06-28-2004, 06:07 AM
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Orient Blue 330Ci... I was in a daze for most of the morning, and having a tough time getting all the crap out of my car. Not having a garage really sucks. I think Elwood came by and laughed me.

You weren't the green Z3 parked right next ot me were you?
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I had a blast yesterday, and despite displayed an admirable amount of suckage in the autocross skills dept, I learned a lot, and did get better as the day went on. I'm pretty sure rumratt won't be finishing last place anymore as long as I keep showing. I'm also pretty sure Elwood is going to be impossible to catch by the end of the season -- after watching 2 of his runs, I can definitely say I'm impressed.

Unfortunately, I had to leave by 1pm, so I didn't get any afternoon runs in. I also don't think my power sapping steptronic particularly liked the autocross, going into "Limp" mode on the NJ Turnpike dropping from 5th to 4th. A reboot fixed it... I'll have to keep an eye on it.

These were taken during the last of the first group's morning run:

Pics of Elwood

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Thanks to Elwood for taking the pics of rumratt and me (and thanks for not dropping the camera ).
I see a little agressiveness here Al

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I see a little agressiveness here Al
My last run was very sloppy. I don't think I hit any cones yesterday though... was motivated enough not to want to buff out cone scars after getting home.
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Orient Blue 330Ci... I was in a daze for most of the morning, and having a tough time getting all the crap out of my car. Not having a garage really sucks. I think Elwood came by and laughed me.

You weren't the green Z3 parked right next ot me were you?
Yep, DOH!


They had me staging and 'instructing', so I only had time to talk to the people in B, F, and X. I rode with the guy in the 944 who spun twice on the same run after that. I had a little fun chewing him out - I started when I sat down in the car and said, "Now, why do you think you spun out both times???"
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Old 06-28-2004, 06:19 AM
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They had me staging and 'instructing', so I only had time to talk to the people in B, F, and X. I rode with the guy in the 944 who spun twice on the same run after that. I had a little fun chewing him out - I started when I sat down in the car and said, "Now, why do you think you spun out both times???"
Shows how much I was paying attention... might also explain why I sucked so much too.

What was the deal with the guy that almost crashed on his way into the paddock?! I heard a screech, and saw the guy head for the grass.
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rumratt, were you the guy bitching because I beat you out by 2 tenths? I was driving the dark green Z3 in D. Came in 3rd, probably 3 or 4 tenths behind elwood.
Hey, yep, that was me. Small world. There are more east coasters on this forum than I thought.

I actually had a good day because I learned a lot. The time variation between my best two runs and my worst two runs (raw times) was over 4 seconds and I know what I did differently for each, so that's good news.

What I'd like to do at the next autox is try to get more consistent at achieving a smooth, clean run (8/10th maybe), and work on HITTING FEWER CONES. Once I get to that point, then I can worry about getting more aggressive.

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Gee Al.. How did you get the pictures posted by 3:20pm?


It was great meeting Al for the first time, and congrats to Elwood for taking 2nd place again in our class. . Believe it or not I did manage two times that were faster than Elwood's 2nd place time, except for the minor detail that I hit THREE cones on each of thos runs. Elwood also had another run that was faster than all of them, but he hit his favorite cone there the end.
Thanks rumratt and glad the pictures cam out alee. And to think, I get atleast another event with a novice clasification!

It was another beautifull day, and a good turnout. My morning was an expert display in sloppy driving. I have to say that all my improved runs in the afternoon were thanks to Dave's critic. I still need a lot of work. Especially since first place is over 1.5 seconds faster .

When rumratt stops drilling so many cones, we'll have some serious competition going!
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I forgot....some video's shot by bbh03 can be found over on the fanatics

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=175982

http://forum.e46fanatics.com/showthread.php?t=175981
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Results are in
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Trailing 1st by 3.35 sec Looks like I have a looooong way to go to catch that little 325is. BUT, I'm determined to get there!
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Trailing 1st by 3.35 sec Looks like I have a looooong way to go to catch that little 325is. BUT, I'm determined to get there!

Yeah, and you would be in 3rd if they hadn't reclassified Ricardo and his Mini Cooper S to C
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I didn't come in last in class. Looks like Festers took 2nd, 3rd and 4th in D class (and 9th)
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Trailing 1st by 3.35 sec Looks like I have a looooong way to go to catch that little 325is. BUT, I'm determined to get there!

I noticed you guys are running on street tires. Is that 325is on R comps? If so, that's some of it right there, so don't be too discouraged.
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In our borrowed classification system (Thanks Boston Chapter!), R compounds add 15 points. The classes are space about 25 points apart so R compounds bump you unless you are barely into the class. That D class E30 325is is at 90+ points. R compounds will push it into E class.

For reference, our class structure:

A 0-24.9
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Non-BMWs and non-Minis run in X class and are PAXed using SCCA PAX factors.
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In our borrowed classification system (Thanks Boston Chapter!), R compounds add 15 points. The classes are space about 25 points apart so R compounds bump you unless you are barely into the class. That D class E30 325is is at 90+ points. R compounds will push it into E class.

For reference, our class structure:

A 0-24.9
B 25-49.9
C 50-74.9
D 75-99.9
E 100-129.9
F 130+
Non-BMWs and non-Minis run in X class and are PAXed using SCCA PAX factors.
My 330ci is at 76.1 so I could add:

sways (f/r) and r-comps

or

sways (f/r)
springs & shocks (f/r)

and still be in D
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Oh, I forgot this was a BMWCCA event and not SCCA. I haven't had the opportunity to run a local BMWCCA event (in fact I don't even know if there are any around here), but Id like to. Im unfamiliar with the way the classes are setup.

In an SCCA stock class, R compound tires are allowed which means the guys on street tires are at a pretty big disadvantage.
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Oh, I forgot this was a BMWCCA event and not SCCA. I haven't had the opportunity to run a local BMWCCA event (in fact I don't even know if there are any around here), but Id like to. Im unfamiliar with the way the classes are setup...

BMWCCA has no national autocross class system so the indvidual chapters come up with their own systems.

On the simpler side is the Windy City chapter system:
http://www.windycitybmw.com/autocross/rules.asp
They have a pretty simple initial points system with only 24 breakpoints.

Boston Chapter has a very complex system which uses a huge matrix of car parameters (weight, peak torque, gear ratios, peak HP, etc.) to come up with base points. They will then modify base points once they feel they have enough real world data from a couple season's worth of events.
http://www.boston-bmwcca.org/events/...ross.rules.asp
They have different initial points for virtually every combination of drivetrain and sport package or lack thereof:
http://www.boston-bmwcca.org/events/...p=2&modelname=
We asked Boston CHapter for permission to use their system and they happily sent us their spreadsheets used to calculate base points. Someone is Boston has a sh!tload of free time.


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00 1602 – 2002tii, E21 320i, 84-85 318i, Bavaria, 3.0S, 3.0Si, 3.0CS, E12 528i, E12 530i, 524td, 528e, 533i, E28 535i, 535is, 630-635CSi, 733i, E23 735i, 745i
03 89-90 525i, E34 525iT, 850i, Ci, 840i, E32 735i
08 318iC, 740i, iL, 750iL, E34 530iT, 850CSi
15 E30 325, 325e, 325es, 91 318i, E36 318i, is
16 91 318is, 91-95 525i
19 E34 530i, E34 535i, E30 325iC, E30 325iX
21 E30 325i, 318ti
25 E39 528i, E39 525i, E30 325is
27 US M6, E34 540i, Z3 1.9
28 E39 530i, E28 M5, E34 M5, Euro M6, X5 3.0i, X3 2.5
29 E36 325i, is, ic, E36 323is, ic
32 E39 540i, X5 4.4, X3 3, E60 530i
33 Z1
34 E46 323i, Ci, CiC, iT, E46 325i, Ci, CiC, Xi, iT
36 X5 4.6is, E63 645i, E60 545i
37 Z3 2.3, Z3 2.5, E30 M3
39 E36 328i, is, ic, X5 4.8
42 E46 328i, Ci, CiC
44 E46 330i, Ci, CiC, Xi
48 Z3 2.8, Z3 Coupe 2.8
49 E36 M3, Z3 3.0, Z3 Coupe 3.0, Z4 2.5
50 M Coupe / M Roadster < 2001 (238HP)
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1500 4-dr Type 118 1962 9.1
1500 4-dr Type 118 1963 9.1
1500 4-dr Type 118 1964 9.1
1600 4-dr Type 118 1964 3.8
1600 4-dr Type 118 1965 3.8
1600 4-dr Type 118 1966 3.8
1600-2 Type 114 1966 24
1600-2 Type 114 1967 24
1600-2 Type 114 1968 24
1600-2 Type 114 1969 24
1600-2 Type 114 1970 24
1600-2 Type 114 1971 24
1600TI Type 114 1967 22.1
1600TI Type 114 1968 22.1
1800 4-dr Type 118 1963 17
1800 4-dr Type 118 1964 17
1800 4-dr Type 118 1965 17
1800 4-dr Type 118 1966 17
1800 4-dr Type 118 1967 17
1800 4-dr Type 118 1968 17
1800 4-dr Type 118 1969 17
1800 4-dr Type 118 1970 17
1800 4-dr Type 118 1971 17
1800TI - Lunge Type 118 1964 59.7
1800TI - Lunge Type 118 1965 59.7
1800TI - Lunge Type 118 1966 59.7
1800TI - Lunge Type 118 1964 73
1800TI - Lunge Type 118 1965 73
1800TI - Lunge Type 118 1966 73
1800TI 4-dr Type 118 1964 20.2
1800TI 4-dr Type 118 1965 20.2
1800TI 4-dr Type 118 1966 20.2
2000cA Type 121 1965 5.1
2000cA Type 121 1966 5.1
2000cA Type 121 1967 5.1
2000cs Type 121 1965 12.3
2000cs Type 121 1966 12.3
2000cs Type 121 1967 12.3
2000cs Type 121 1968 12.3
2000cs Type 121 1969 12.3
2000cs Type 121 1970 12.3
2000TI 4-dr Type 121 1966 19.4
2000TI 4-dr Type 121 1967 19.4
2000TI 4-dr Type 121 1968 19.4
2000TI 4-dr Type 121 1969 19.4
2000TI 4-dr Type 121 1970 19.4
2000tii Type 121 1969 25.8
2000tii Type 121 1970 25.8
2000tii Type 121 1971 25.8
2000tii Type 121 1972 25.8
2002 Alpina Type 114 1967 86.7
2002 Touring E6 1971 29.9
2002 Touring E6 1972 29.9
2002 Touring E6 1973 29.9
2002 Touring E6 1974 29.9
2002 Touring - Arnold E6 1971 20
2002 Turbo E10 1973 75.1
2002 Turbo E10 1974 75.1
2002tii E6 1971 42.2
2002tii E6 1972 42.2
2002tii E6 1973 42.2
2002tii E6 1974 33
2800cs E9 1968 15.1
2800cs E9 1969 15.1
2800cs E9 1970 15.1
2800cs E9 1971 15.1
3.0cs E9 1971 19
3.0cs E9 1972 19
3.0cs E9 1973 19
3.0cs E9 1974 19
3.0cs E9 1975 19
3.0csi E9 1971 23.5
3.0csi E9 1972 23.5
3.0csi E9 1973 23.5
3.0csi E9 1974 23.5
3.0csi E9 1975 23.5
3.0csL E9 1973 (unknown)
3.0csL E9 1974 (unknown)
3.0csL E9 1975 (unknown)
3.0s E3 1973 3.9
3.0s E3 1974 3.9
3.0s E3 1975 3.9
3.0s E3 1976 3.9
3.0si E3 1975 -1.4
3.0si E3 1976 -1.4
316 Euro E21 1975 32.5
316 Euro E21 1976 32.5
316 Euro E21 1977 32.5
316 Euro E21 1978 32.5
316 Euro E21 1979 32.5
316 Euro E21 1980 32.5
316 Euro E21 1981 32.5
316 Euro E21 1982 32.5
316 Euro E21 1983 32.5
316 Euro E30 1984 40
316 Euro E30 1985 40
316 Euro E30 1986 40
316 Euro E30 1987 40
316 Euro E30 1988 40
316 Euro E30 1989 40
316 Euro E30 1990 40
318i E30 1984 15.6
318i E30 1985 15.6
318i - 2 liter engine E30 1984 26.2
318i - 2 liter engine E30 1985 26.2
318i 4-dr E30 1990 39
318i 4-dr E30 1991 39
318i 4-dr E36 1992 32.5
318i 4-dr E36 1993 32.5
318i 4-dr E36 1994 32.5
318i 4-dr E36 1995 28.7
318i 4-dr E36 1996 29.7
318i 4-dr E36 1997 29.7
318i Convertible E30 1990 32.1
318i Convertible E30 1991 32.1
318i Convertible E36 1993 23.9
318i Convertible E36 1994 23.9
318i Convertible E36 1995 23.9
318i Convertible E36 1996 26.9
318i Convertible E36 1997 26.9
318iA 4-dr E36 1992 29
318iA 4-dr E36 1993 29
318iA 4-dr E36 1994 29
318iA 4-dr E36 1995 25.2
318iA 4-dr E36 1996 26.7
318iA 4-dr E36 1997 26.7
318iA Convertible E36 1993 20.5
318iA Convertible E36 1994 20.5
318iA Convertible E36 1995 20.5
318iA Convertible E36 1996 24
318iA Convertible E36 1997 24
318is E30 1990 54.2
318is E30 1991 54.2
318is E36 1992 38.5
318is E36 1993 38.5
318is E36 1994 38.5
318is E36 1995 34.7
318is E36 1996 35.7
318is E36 1997 35.7
318is Sport E36 1995 51.7
318isA E36 1992 35
318isA E36 1993 35
318isA E36 1994 35
318isA E36 1995 31.2
318isA E36 1996 32.7
318isA E36 1997 32.7
318isA Sport E36 1995 48.2
318ti E36/5 1995 38.5
318ti E36/5 1996 41.7
318ti E36/5 1997 41.7
318ti E36/5 1998 41.7
318ti E36/5 1999 41.7
318ti Active E36/5 1996 47.8
318ti Active E36/5 1997 47.8
318ti Active E36/5 1998 47.8
318ti Active E36/5 1999 47.8
318ti Sport E36/5 1995 54.6
318ti Sport E36/5 1996 69.1
318ti Sport E36/5 1997 69.1
318ti Sport E36/5 1998 69.1
318ti Sport E36/5 1999 69.1
318tiA E36/5 1996 38.5
318tiA E36/5 1997 38.5
318tiA E36/5 1998 38.5
318tiA E36/5 1999 38.5
320/6 Euro E21/5 1977 21.4
320/6 Euro E21/5 1978 21.4
320/6 Euro E21/5 1979 21.4
320/6 Euro E21/5 1980 21.4
320/6 Euro E21/5 1981 21.4
320/6 Euro E21/5 1982 21.4
320/6 Euro E21/5 1983 21.4
320/6 Euro E30 1984 27.6
320/6 Euro E30 1985 27.6
320/6 Euro E30 1986 27.6
320/6 Euro E30 1987 27.6
320/6 Euro E30 1988 27.6
320/6 Euro E30 1989 27.6
320/6 Euro E30 1990 27.6
320i E21 1977 13.7
320i E21 1978 13.7
320i E21 1979 13.7
320i E21 1980 22.7
320i E21 1981 22.7
320i E21 1982 22.7
320i E21 1983 22.7
320i Alpina E21 1977 (unknown)
320is E21 1978 31.7
320is E21 1979 31.7
320is E21 1980 40.7
320is E21 1981 40.7
320is E21 1982 40.7
320is E21 1983 40.7
323i E46 1999 45.2
323i E46 2000 45.2
323i Convertible E36 1998 34.3
323i Euro E21/5 1977 53.8
323i Euro E21/5 1978 53.8
323i Euro E21/5 1979 53.8
323i Euro E21/5 1980 53.8
323i Euro E21/5 1981 53.8
323i Euro E21/5 1982 53.8
323i Euro E21/5 1983 53.8
323i Euro E30 1984 64.6
323i Euro E30 1985 64.6
323i Euro E30 1986 64.6
323i Euro - Theile E30 1985 43.1
323i Sport E46 1999 67.2
323i Sport E46 2000 67.2
323iA E46 1999 43.8
323iA E46 2000 43.8
323iA Convertible E36 1998 29.1
323iA Sport E46 1999 65.8
323iA Sport E46 2000 65.8
323is E36 1998 45.7
323is E36 1999 45.7
323isA E36 1998 39.4
325/325e E30 1984 31
325/325e E30 1985 31
325/325e E30 1986 37.8
325/325eT- Robertson E30 1985 98.1
325A E30 1987 36.6
325A E30 1988 36.6
325es E30 1986 54.9
325es E30 1987 54.9
325es E30 1988 54.9
325i E30 1987 53.6
325i E30 1988 53.6
325i E30 1989 51.3
325i E30 1990 55.6
325i E30 1991 55.6
325i - Robertson E30 1987 100.3
325i - Robertson E30 1988 100.3
325i 4-dr E36 1992 55.6
325i 4-dr E36 1993 57.9
325i 4-dr E36 1994 57.9
325i 4-dr E36 1995 57.9
325i Convertible E30 1987 47.3
325i Convertible E30 1988 47.3
325i Convertible E30 1989 47.3
325i Convertible E30 1990 47.3
325i Convertible E30 1991 48.6
325i Convertible E30 1992 48.6
325i Convertible E36 1994 45.4
325i Convertible E36 1995 45.4
325i Euro E30 1987 72.9
325i Euro E30 1988 72.9
325i Euro E30 1989 72.9
325i Euro E30 1990 72.9
325i Euro E30 1991 72.9
325iA E30 1987 50.6
325iA E30 1988 50.6
325iA E30 1989 48.3
325iA E30 1990 48.3
325iA E30 1991 48.3
325iA E30 1990 52.4
325iA E30 1991 52.4
325iA 4-dr E36 1992 49.6
325iA 4-dr E36 1993 52
325iA 4-dr E36 1994 52
325iA 4-dr E36 1995 52
325iA Convertible E30 1991 45.4
325iA Convertible E30 1992 45.4
325iA Convertible E36 1994 39.2
325iA Convertible E36 1995 39.2
325is E30 1987 74.4
325is E30 1988 74.4
325is E30 1989 71.8
325is E30 1990 71.8
325is E30 1991 71.8
325is E36 1992 58.8
325is E36 1993 57.9
325is E36 1994 57.9
325is E36 1995 57.9
325is M Technik E36 1994 75.9
325isA E30 1987 71.4
325isA E30 1988 71.4
325isA E30 1989 68.8
325isA E30 1990 68.8
325isA E30 1991 68.8
325isA E36 1992 52.8
325isA E36 1993 52
325isA E36 1994 52
325isA E36 1995 52
325ix E30 1988 76.3
325ix E30 1989 76.3
325ix E30 1990 76.3
325ix E30 1991 79
325ixA E30 1988 68.9
325ixA E30 1989 68.9
325ixA E30 1990 68.9
325ixA E30 1991 71.4
328Ci E46 2000 59.1
328i E46 1999 54.8
328i E46 2000 54.8
328i 4-dr E36 1996 54.7
328i 4-dr E36 1997 54.7
328i 4-dr E36 1998 54.7
328i 4-dr Sport E36 1996 70
328i 4-dr Sport E36 1997 70
328i 4-dr Sport E36 1998 70
328i Convertible E36 1996 43
328i Convertible E36 1997 43
328i Convertible E36 1998 41.5
328i Sport E46 1999 73
328i Sport E46 2000 73
328i Sport Convertible E36 1996 62
328i Sport Convertible E36 1997 62
328iA E46 1999 57.7
328iA E46 2000 57.7
328iA 4-dr E36 1996 51.1
328iA 4-dr E36 1997 51.1
328iA 4-dr E36 1998 51.1
328iA Convertible E36 1996 39.5
328iA Convertible E36 1997 39.5
328iA Convertible E36 1998 37.9
328iA Sport E46 1999 75.9
328iA Sport E46 2000 75.9
328is E36 1996 54.7
328is E36 1997 54.7
328is E36 1998 54.7
328is Sport E36 1996 70
328is Sport E36 1997 70
328is Sport E36 1998 70
328isA E36 1996 51.1
328isA E36 1997 51.1
328isA E36 1998 51.1
524td E28 1985 21.9
524td E28 1986 21.9
525i E34 1989 19.4
525i E34 1990 19.4
525i E34 1991 27.5
525i E34 1992 27.5
525i E34 1993 30.2
525i E34 1994 30.2
525i E34 1995 30.2
525iA E34 1989 15.8
525iA E34 1990 15.8
525iA E34 1991 24.7
525iA E34 1992 24.7
525iA E34 1993 27.5
525iA E34 1994 27.5
525iA E34 1995 27.5
525iA Touring E34 1992 8.5
525iA Touring E34 1993 11.4
525iA Touring E34 1994 11.4
525iA Touring E34 1995 11.4
528e E12/6 1982 -4.1
528e E12/6 1983 0.4
528e E12/6 1984 0.4
528e E12/6 1985 0.4
528e E12/6 1986 5.4
528e E12/6 1987 5.4
528e E12/6 1988 5.4
528i E12/6 1979 2.9
528i E12/6 1980 10.3
528i E12/6 1981 10.3
528i E39 1997 30
528i E39 1998 30
528i E39 1999 27.8
528i E39 2000 27.8
528i Sport Wagon E39 1999 48.4
528iA E39 1997 25.1
528iA E39 1998 25.1
528iA E39 1999 23
528iA Sport Wagon E39 1999 41.9
530i E12/6 1975 18.4
530i E12/6 1976 18.4
530i E12/6 1977 13
530i E12/6 1978 13
530i E34 1993 28.2
530i E34 1994 28.2
530i E34 1995 28.2
530i - Bill E12/6 1975 39.8
530i - Bill E12/6 1976 39.8
530iA E34 1993 24.7
530iA E34 1994 24.7
530iA E34 1995 24.7
530iA Touring E34 1993 18.6
530iA Touring E34 1994 18.6
530iA Touring E34 1995 18.6
533i E28 1982 19.2
533i E28 1983 26
533i E28 1984 26
535i E28 1985 32.5
535i E28 1986 32.5
535i E28 1987 32.5
535i E28 1988 32.5
535i E34 1989 35.3
535i E34 1990 35.3
535i E34 1991 35.3
535i E34 1992 35.3
535i E34 1993 35.3
535iA E34 1989 30.3
535iA E34 1990 30.3
535iA E34 1991 30.3
535iA E34 1992 30.3
535iA E34 1993 30.3
535is E28 1987 50.5
535is E28 1988 50.5
540i E34 1995 50.2
540i E39 1997 51.5
540i E39 1998 51.5
540i Sport 6 Speed E39 1999 75.3
540i Sport 6 Speed E39 2000 75.3
540iA E34 1994 32.4
540iA E34 1995 32.4
540iA E39 1997 47
540iA E39 1998 47
540iA E39 1999 48.2
540iA E39 2000 48.2
540iA E39 1999 43.5
540iA E39 2000 43.5
540iA E39 2001 43.5
540iA Sport Wagon E39 1999 48.5
630csi E24 1977 7
633csi E24 1978 0.4
633csi E24 1979 0.4
633csi E24 1980 0.4
633csi E24 1981 0.4
633csi E24 1982 0.4
633csi E24 1983 12.6
633csi E24 1984 12.6
635csi E24 1985 32.8
635csi E24 1986 32.8
635csi E24 1988 34.2
635csi E24 1989 34.2
635csi Euro E24 1978 (unknown)
635csi Euro E24 1979 (unknown)
635csi Euro E24 1980 (unknown)
635csi Euro E24 1981 (unknown)
635csi Euro E24 1982 (unknown)
635csi Euro E24 1983 (unknown)
635csi Euro E24 1984 (unknown)
635csi Euro - Singh E24 1978 40.5
635csi Euro - Singh E24 1979 40.5
635csi Euro - Singh E24 1980 40.5
635csi Euro - Singh E24 1981 40.5
635csi Euro - Singh E24 1982 40.5
635csi Euro - Singh E24 1983 40.5
635csi Euro - Singh E24 1984 40.5
730i Euro E32 1993 (unknown)
730iA E32 1993 (unknown)
733i E23 1978 10.4
733i E23 1979 10.4
733i E23 1980 1.8
733i E23 1981 1.8
733i E23 1982 5.9
733i E23 1983 5.9
733i E23 1984 7.5
735i E23 1985 28.5
735i E23 1986 28.5
735i E23 1987 28.5
735i E32 1988 26.2
735i E32 1989 26.2
735i E32 1990 26.2
735i E32 1991 26.2
735i E32 1992 26.2
735i Euro E23 1978 31.3
735i Euro E23 1979 31.3
735i Euro E23 1980 31.3
735i Euro E23 1981 31.3
735i Euro E23 1982 31.3
735i Euro E23 1983 31.3
735i Euro E23 1984 31.3
735i Euro E23 1985 31.3
735i Euro E23 1986 31.3
735i Euro E23 1987 31.3
735iA E32 1988 19.9
735iA E32 1989 19.9
735iA E32 1990 19.9
735iA E32 1991 19.9
735iA E32 1992 19.9
735iLA E32 1988 9.8
735iLA E32 1989 9.8
735iLA E32 1990 9.8
735iLA E32 1991 9.8
735iLA E32 1992 9.8
740iA E32 1993 35.6
740iA E32 1994 35.6
740iA E32 1995 31.3
740iA E38 1998 40.2
740iA E38 1999 40.2
740iA E38 2000 40.2
740iA E38 2001 40.2
740iA Sport E38 2001 54.9
740iLA E32 1993 28.1
740iLA E32 1994 28.1
740iLA E38 1998 39
740iLA E38 1999 39
740iLA E38 2000 39
740iLA E38 2001 39
745i Euro E23 1983 (unknown)
745i Euro E23 1984 (unknown)
745i Euro E23 1985 (unknown)
745i Euro E23 1986 (unknown)
745i Euro E23 1987 (unknown)
750iLA E32 1988 25.3
750iLA E32 1989 25.3
750iLA E32 1990 25.3
750iLA E32 1991 25.3
750iLA E32 1992 25.3
750iLA E32 1993 25.3
750iLA E32 1994 25.3
750iLA E38 1998 33.2
750iLA E38 1999 33.2
750iLA E38 2000 33.2
750iLA E38 2001 33.2
840ciA E31 1994 (unknown)
850ciA E31 1994 38.2
850csi E31 1994 83.1
850csi E31 1995 73.7
850i E31 1991 26.4
850i E31 1992 26.4
850i E31 1993 26.4
850iA E31 1991 24.1
850iA E31 1992 24.1
850iA E31 1993 24.1
Alpina B10-3.5 E28 1984 114.2
Alpina B10-3.5 E28 1985 114.2
Alpina B10-3.5 E28 1986 114.2
Alpina B10-3.5 E28 1987 114.2
Alpina B10-3.5 E28 1988 114.2
Alpina B11-3.5 E28 1987 79.4
Alpina B11-3.5 E28 1988 79.4
Alpina B11-3.5 E28 1989 79.4
Alpina B11-3.5 E28 1990 79.4
Alpina B6-2.7 E30 1984 118.3
Alpina B6-2.7 E30 1985 118.3
Alpina B6-2.7 E30 1986 118.3
Alpina B6-2.7 E30 1987 118.3
Alpina B6-2.7 E30 1988 118.3
Alpina B6-3.5 E30 1984 116.4
Alpina B6-3.5 E30 1985 116.4
Alpina B6-3.5 E30 1986 116.4
Alpina B6-3.5 E30 1987 116.4
Alpina B6-3.5 E30 1988 116.4
Alpina B7 Turbo E28 1985 90.4
Alpina B7 Turbo E28 1986 90.4
Alpina B7 Turbo E28 1987 90.4
Alpina B7 Turbo E28 1988 90.4
Alpina B7 Turbo Cpe E24 1978 76.1
Alpina B7 Turbo Cpe E24 1979 76.1
Alpina B7 Turbo Cpe E24 1980 76.1
Alpina B7 Turbo Cpe E24 1981 76.1
Alpina B7 Turbo Cpe E24 1982 76.1
Alpina B7 Turbo Cpe E24 1983 76.1
Alpina B7 Turbo Cpe E24 1984 76.1
Alpina B7 Turbo Cpe E24 1985 76.1
Alpina B7 Turbo Cpe E24 1986 76.1
Alpina B7 Turbo Cpe E24 1987 76.1
Alpina B7 Turbo Cpe E24 1988 76.1
Alpina B7 Turbo Cpe E24 1989 76.1
Alpina B7 Turbo Cpe E24 1990 76.1
Alpina C1-2.5 E30 1987 109.6
Alpina C1-2.5 E30 1988 109.6
Alpina C1-2.5 E30 1989 109.6
Alpina C1-2.5 E30 1990 109.6
Alpina C2-2.7 E30 1987 110.5
Alpina C2-2.7 E30 1988 110.5
Alpina C2-2.7 E30 1989 110.5
Alpina C2-2.7 E30 1990 110.5
Bavaria E3 1971 16.8
Bavaria E3 1972 16.8
Bavaria E3 1973 15
Bavaria E3 1974 15
Bavaria Euro 2.8L E3 1976 -7.5
H & B 327s E30 1984 92.8
Hartge H23 E21 1977 (unknown)
Hartge H23 E21 1978 (unknown)
Hartge H23 E21 1979 (unknown)
Hartge H23 E21 1980 (unknown)
Hartge H23 E21 1981 (unknown)
Hartge H23 E21 1982 (unknown)
Hartge H23 E21 1983 (unknown)
Hartge H26 E30 1984 100.4
Hartge H26 E30 1985 100.4
Hartge H26 E30 1986 100.4
Hartge H26 E30 1987 100.4
Hartge H26 E30 1988 100.4
Hartge H26 E30 1989 100.4
Hartge H26 E30 1990 100.4
Hartge H26 E30 1991 100.4
Hartge H5s E28 1984 (unknown)
Hartge H5s E28 1985 (unknown)
Hartge H5s E28 1986 (unknown)
Hartge H5s E28 1987 (unknown)
Hartge H5s E28 1988 (unknown)
L6 E24 1987 27.5
L7 E23 1986 29.8
L7 E23 1987 29.8
M Coupe E36/8S 1998 114.9
M Coupe E36/8S 1999 114.9
M Coupe E36/8S 2000 114.9
M Coupe E36/8S 2001 119.2
M Roadster E36/7S 1998 116.8
M Roadster E36/7S 1999 116.8
M Roadster E36/7S 2000 116.8
M Roadster E36/7S 2001 121.1
M3 E30 1988 97.2
M3 E30 1989 97.2
M3 E30 1990 97.2
M3 E30 1991 97.2
M3 E36 1996 109.1
M3 E36 1997 109.1
M3 E36 1998 109.1
M3 E36 1999 109.1
M3 4-dr E36 1996 109.1
M3 4-dr E36 1997 109.1
M3 4-dr E36 1998 109.1
M3 Convertible E36 1998 95.7
M3 Convertible E36 1999 95.7
M3 Dinan Stroker E30 1988 115.9
M3 Dinan Stroker E30 1989 115.9
M3 Dinan Stroker E30 1990 115.9
M3 Dinan Stroker E30 1991 115.9
M3 Dinan Turbo E30 1988 134.6
M3 Dinan Turbo E30 1989 134.6
M3 Dinan Turbo E30 1990 134.6
M3 Dinan Turbo E30 1991 134.6
M3 Euro E30 1987 103.2
M3 Euro E30 1988 103.2
M3 Euro E30 1989 103.2
M3 Euro E30 1990 103.2
M3 Euro E30 1991 103.2
M3 Euro E36 1993 (unknown)
M3 Lightweight E36 1995 121.1
M3 USA E36 1995 107.6
M3 USA convertible E36 1995 (unknown)
M3A E36 1995 101.5
M3A 4-dr E36 1996 104.9
M3A 4-dr E36 1997 104.9
M3A 4-dr E36 1998 104.9
M3A Convertible E36 1998 91.3
M3A Convertible E36 1999 91.3
M5 E28 1987 78.5
M5 E28 1988 78.5
M5 E34 1991 70.7
M5 E34 1992 70.7
M5 E34 1993 70.7
M5 Euro E28 1987 86.2
M5 Euro E28 1988 86.2
M535i Euro E28 1986 (unknown)
M6 E24 1987 70.9
M6 E24 1988 70.9
M6 E24 1989 70.9
M6 Euro E24 1983 75.3
M6 Euro E24 1984 75.3
M6 Euro E24 1985 75.3
M6 Euro E24 1986 75.3
M6 Euro E24 1987 75.3
M6 Euro E24 1988 75.3
M6 Euro E24 1989 75.3
Z3 1.9 E36/7 1997 59.6
Z3 1.9 E36/7 1998 59.6
Z3 2.3 E36/7 1999 69.8
Z3 2.3 E36/7 2000 69.8
Z3 2.8 E36/7 1997 81
Z3 2.8 E36/7 1998 81
Z3 2.8 E36/7 1999 79.1
Z3 2.8 E36/7 2000 79.1
Z3 Coupe 2.8 E36/8 1999 82.5
Z3 Coupe 2.8 E36/8 2000 82.5
Z3A 2.3 E36/7 1999 59.4
Z3A 2.3 E36/7 2000 59.4
Z3A 2.8 E36/7 1999 73
Z3A 2.8 E36/7 2000 73
Z3A Coupe 2.8 E36/8 1999 76.5
Z3A Coupe 2.8 E36/8 2000 76.5
1602 Type 114 1971 17.5
1602 Type 114 1972 17.5
1602 Type 114 1973 17.5
1602 Type 114 1974 17.5
1602 Type 114 1975 17.5
2002 Type 114 1968 34
2002 Type 114 1969 34
2002 Type 114 1970 34
2002 Type 114 1971 34
2002 Type 114 1972 34
2002 Type 114 1973 34
2002 E6 1974 23.3
2002 E6 1975 23.3
2002 E6 1976 23.3
2500 E3 1968 23.1
2500 E3 1969 23.1
2500 E3 1970 23.1
2500 E3 1971 23.1
2500 E3 1972 23.1
2500 E3 1973 23.1
2500 E3 1974 23.1
2500 E3 1975 23.1
2500 E3 1976 23.1
2800 E3 1968 14.4
2800 E3 1969 14.4
2800 E3 1970 14.4
2800 E3 1971 14.4
323Ci Convertible Sport E46 1999 59.3
323Ci Convertible Sport E46 2000 59.3
323CiA Convertible Sport E46 1999 45.5
323CiA Convertible Sport E46 2000 45.5
325 E30 1987 38.1
325 E30 1988 38.1
325Ci E46 2001 52.3
325Ci Convertible E46 2001 37.8
325Ci Sport E46 2001 61.4
325CiA E46 2001 37.2
325CiA Sport E46 2001 46.2
325i 4 Door E46 2001 43.9
325i 4 Door Sport E46 2001 62
325i Sport Wagon E46 2001 33.1
325iA 4 Door E46 2001 29.4
325iA 4 Door Sport E46 2001 47.4
325iA Sport Wagon E46 2001 19.9
325xi 4 Door E46 2001 37.5
325xi 4 Door Sport E46 2001 33.2
325xi Sport Wagon E46 2001 27.3
325xiA 4 Door E46 2001 31.6
325xiA 4 Door Sport E46 2001 27.2
325xiA Sport Wagon E46 2001 21.3
330Ci E46 2001 58.7
330Ci Sport E46 2001 76.1
330CiA E46 2001 53.2
330CiA Sport E46 2001 70.6
330i 4 Door E46 2001 51.3
330i 4 Door Sport E46 2001 77.6
330iA 4 Door E46 2001 45.3
330iA 4 Door Sport E46 2001 71.7
330xi 4 Door E46 2001 51
330xi 4 Door Sport E46 2001 52
330xiA 4 Door E46 2001 49.4
330xiA 4 Door Sport E46 2001 50.4
525i E39 2001 21
525i Sport Pkg E39 2001 36.8
525i Sport Wagon E39 2001 -1.6
525i Spt Wgn Spt Pkg E39 2001 14.5
525iA E39 2001 17.4
525iA Sport Pkg E39 2001 33.3
525iA Sport Wagon E39 2001 5
525iA Spt Wgn Spt Pkg E39 2001 21
530i E39 2001 31.3
530i Sport Pkg E39 2001 47
530iA E39 2001 36.4
530iA Sport Pkg E39 2001 52
540i Sport E34 1995 62.1
540iA Sport Wagon E39 1999 48.2
540iA Sport Wagon E39 2000 48.2
540iA Sport Wagon E39 2001 48.2
540iA Spt Wgn Spt Pkg E39 1999 63.9
540iA Spt Wgn Spt Pkg E39 2000 63.9
540iA Spt Wgn Spt Pkg E39 2001 63.9
M3 E46 2001 114
M3 E46 2002 114
M3 Convertible E46 2001 100
M3 Convertible E46 2002 100
M5 E39 2000 91
M5 E39 2001 91
MINI Cooper 2003 41.2
MINI Cooper CVT 2003 35.8
MINI Cooper CVT Sport 2003 41.1
MINI Cooper S 2003 68.7
MINI Cooper S Sport 2003 75.4
MINI Cooper Sport 2003 46.7
X5 3.0i E53 2001 24.3
X5 3.0i Sport E53 2001 41.2
X5 3.0iA E53 2001 18.6
X5 3.0iA Sport E53 2001 35.6
X5 4.4i E53 2000 25.4
X5 4.4i E53 2001 25.4
X5 4.4i Sport E53 2000 41.7
X5 4.4i Sport E53 2001 41.7
Z3 Coupe 3.0i E36/8 2001 93
Z3 Coupe 3.0iA E36/8 2001 91.5
Z3 Coupe 3.0iA E36/8 2002 91.5
Z3 Roadster 2.5i E36/7 2001 74.9
Z3 Roadster 2.5iA E36/7 2001 72.6
Z3 Roadster 3.0i E36/7 2001 89.5
Z3 Roadster 3.0iA E36/7 2001 87.9
Z4 2.5i E85 2003 75.7
Z4 2.5i Sport E85 2003 84.3
Z4 2.5iA E85 2003 72.8
Z4 2.5iA Sport E85 2003 81.4
Z4 3.0i E85 2003 81
Z4 3.0i Sport E85 2003 92.8
Z4 3.0iA E85 2003 79
Z4 3.0iA Sport E85 2003 90.8
Z8 E52 2001 105.9
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Boston initial points:

330Ci E46 2001 58.7
330Ci Sport E46 2001 76.1
330CiA E46 2001 53.2
330CiA Sport E46 2001 70.6
330i 4 Door E46 2001 51.3
330i 4 Door Sport E46 2001 77.6
330iA 4 Door E46 2001 45.3
330iA 4 Door Sport E46 2001 71.7
330xi 4 Door E46 2001 51
330xi 4 Door Sport E46 2001 52
330xiA 4 Door E46 2001 49.4
330xiA 4 Door Sport E46 2001 50.4


How many base points is the ZHP? 77.6?
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How many base points is the ZHP? 77.6?
76.2

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