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E90/E92/E93 M3 (2008 - 2014)
4th generation E90 M3 sedan, E92 M3 coupe and E93 M3 convertible. The last of the naturally aspirated M3s, powered by a 4.0 liter V8 making 414hp and 295 lb-ft of torque.

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Old 02-07-2012, 07:51 AM
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Would you sell your M3 to someone who doesn't appreciate an M3?

I'm currently in the midst of discussions to sell my M3. It doesn't fit my needs as well as the 750 I have on order. However, the woman who is interested in buying it just wants to get a BMW convertible. She is a competent driver, but I honestly don't see her driving past 4000rpm. I'm trying to drop hints that she should look at a 328i convertible instead, but if push comes to shove and she really does want my car at the price I'm asking, is there a dilemna here? I don't think I would have any trouble finding another buyer, and my timing is flexible.
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Old 02-07-2012, 08:42 AM
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Yep. No problem selling it to her.As long as you don't think see will hurt herself. Let her have it.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:28 PM
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I would sell my M3 to a newborn baby as long as the asking price is paid and somehow he/she can get a driving license... in that order.
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:37 PM
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I agree. If you had major problems with the car and tried pawning it off then yea thats an issue. However, she has the cash, she is obviously capable of making decisions. Sell it and let go. Cry after she leaves with it, dont let the M3 see you cry
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Old 02-07-2012, 12:53 PM
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The only reason not to sell the car is if you personally know that it would be dangerous. So, if your next door neighbors kid has a drinking problem, and wants to buy your M3, I would say no, I don't want to be a party to that.

Otherwise, sell it. It is a machine, not a dog. You don't have to find a loving home for it.
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:57 PM
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Sell to the first buyer with the price you want who can complete the transaction cleanly. Although she may not be able to appreciate the power of the M, if she has the funds, let her explore. I suspect there are many who never actually approach the M3's potential.
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Old 02-07-2012, 04:10 PM
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I'd sell it to Joan Claybrook if her money is green and she has enough to meet my price! Who cares what someone does with the car if they meet your price?
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Old 02-07-2012, 04:19 PM
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Old 02-07-2012, 05:43 PM
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Man, all these women who don't appreciate what an M is capable of.... what's wrong with them?? j/k
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Old 02-07-2012, 07:58 PM
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This reminds me of a story from a while back...

A friend of mine needed a big old American car to enter in a demolition derby. So he sees an ad (pre-Internet days) in a newspaper out in Pennsylvania for a gigantic early-70s Pontiac with well over 100,000 miles on it. He drives out to see it, it starts up fine, and he says he'll take it. As he's handing the $500 to the seller (a woman), she's trying to show him how clean it is under the hood, in the trunk, etc. and how she'd just had it waxed. He says "That doesn't matter... I'm just entering it in a demolition derby, anyway." Lol, she hands him back his money and wouldn't sell him the car!
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Old 02-08-2012, 12:50 AM
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Old 02-13-2012, 06:30 PM
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I'm currently in the midst of discussions to sell my M3. It doesn't fit my needs as well as the 750 I have on order. However, the woman who is interested in buying it just wants to get a BMW convertible. She is a competent driver, but I honestly don't see her driving past 4000rpm. I'm trying to drop hints that she should look at a 328i convertible instead, but if push comes to shove and she really does want my car at the price I'm asking, is there a dilemna here? I don't think I would have any trouble finding another buyer, and my timing is flexible.
Seriously? How do you know what she's capable of? Your comments seem a little arrogant to me. This could be the car that opens up her horizons. Just my 2 cents.
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Old 02-13-2012, 09:58 PM
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Hey Chris:

While there are certainly situations that would warrant not selling a car (M3 or otherwise) to someone, "lack of appreciation" for the car wouldn't seem to be one of them.
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Old 02-13-2012, 10:51 PM
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Seriously? How do you know what she's capable of? Your comments seem a little arrogant to me.
I took a test drive with her and her husband (all 3 blocks of it in a 35mph zone), plus I asked her what she was looking for and how she was going to use the car. Her questions were related to the hard top, service loaners and park distance control.

I'm a car enthusiast, so based on experience can usually pair wants and needs well. If you're a car enthusiast, you'll drive the wheels off a Honda Fit, or any car - not just because you stepped into a M3 or Lamborghini. Yes, pigs could fly, but I doubt it in this case.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:47 AM
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No need to consider if your buyer understands, or appreciates, M history.
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Old 02-14-2012, 06:08 AM
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I really take care of my cars so when I sell one it does feel better to sell it to someone who appreciates the condition of the car. However, when it comes down to it, the person that brings the asking price first, gets the car.
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Old 02-14-2012, 05:34 PM
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The only reason I would be hesitant is that someone who doesn't understand an M3 could be more likely to bother you with unfunded complaints and even buy back requests. Something is wrong with this and that becuase it's noisy or jerky or whatever experiences you can have with this kind of car if they drive it like and compare it to their Lexus ES.

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Old 02-14-2012, 07:20 PM
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I'm currently in the midst of discussions to sell my M3. It doesn't fit my needs as well as the 750 I have on order. However, the woman who is interested in buying it just wants to get a BMW convertible. She is a competent driver, but I honestly don't see her driving past 4000rpm. I'm trying to drop hints that she should look at a 328i convertible instead, but if push comes to shove and she really does want my car at the price I'm asking, is there a dilemna here? I don't think I would have any trouble finding another buyer, and my timing is flexible.
Does an art collector refuse the bid of a person who does not have his experience or appreciation? Not bloody likely. The price offered expresses the appreciation of the buyer. The seller has no right to deprecate the intellligence or appreciation of the buyer, unless the buyer is understood to be incompetent.
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Old 02-14-2012, 07:26 PM
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I'm currently in the midst of discussions to sell my M3... the woman who is interested in buying it just wants to get a BMW convertible. She is a competent driver, but I honestly don't see her driving past 4000rpm. I'm trying to drop hints that she should look at a 328i convertible instead, but if push comes to shove and she really does want my car at the price I'm asking, is there a dilemna here?
Okay, here's how you solve this problem:

Sell her a regular used 3-series with an "M" sticker on it. If she notices the difference, she'll deserve to own YOUR car.
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BMW owners come to know their cars from driving them. My first BMW was a e38, now I own a e65, why...because I learned that I loved the feel of a BMW with all of the stupid little quirks.

Don't under estimate a prospective owner, if you don't sell to her she will find another car and really it doesn't matter.

She will learn to know what she has purchased, and she might be playing stupid. I know my wife is a far better driver than I am. Most of the time she scares the crap out of me and she doesn't know crap about our 7.

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The seller has no right to deprecate the intellligence or appreciation of the buyer, unless the buyer is understood to be incompetent.
Don't I have the right not to sell to her? Basically she only wants it because it's probably the cheapest 3 series 'vert lease available. And I'd rather sell local.

Yes, I appreciate the comments, and it has altered my view. Though I would still prefer to sell to a local enthusiast, but would have no hesitation to selling to someone paying the asking price. And, just based on my experience, and this is just my opinion, do feel the 328i is better for that lady. Like someone else said, she may complain about the DCT etc. That I'm not afraid of, but I would prefer to have a happy customer.
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Chris, I really do understand your perspective. Sure, you could dump the car to her if she meets your price; but on the other hand you are right, you could sell it to an enthusiast. it would feel better.
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Alls well that ends well. I had a guy come today, owns a Viper, previously AMG. He had it up to 80 in the rain in a 40 zone. Very proficient. He saw the car as a deal, and placed a deposit.
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I would actually sell it to the lady. sure, the lady does not drive above 4k rpm, but at least she may drive safely. on the opposite side, the guy whom drove 80 in a 40 mils zone in the rain, one day he may kill himself or others. just simple stupid, if he drove on a track and no danger to the public. I am fine with that.
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The road was clear, the car was fine, the roads superb, and when there were other cars he slowed right down. It may have only been 65, but it looked like 80. I personally never felt in danger, else I would have asked him to stop, or turned off the engine. DSC never came on.

I thought I wasn't supposed to be judgmental?
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