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Old 09-03-2012, 08:42 PM
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Shawn,

If I am not wrong didn't we find a way to upgrade ?
I thought some body found a way to do it right ?

I have been real rusty these days have to re instate SLI work and see if I can get around with the HUD upgrade. Hopefully there will be TSB soon for some software fix.
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Old 09-03-2012, 08:55 PM
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Shawn,

If I am not wrong didn't we find a way to upgrade ?
I thought some body found a way to do it right ?

I have been real rusty these days have to re instate SLI work and see if I can get around with the HUD upgrade. Hopefully there will be TSB soon for some software fix.
Dreamcar, you lost me. I'm not talking about a HUD upgrade per se', rather a few new features that were included in the 47.x release. These can be had for all HUD users if they upgrade to 47.x. The new CIC/ Navigation system is what can't be upgraded via firmware / software. That will require a whole new CIC Head Unit and HU_NBT Module, but this has no bearing on the HUD.
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Old 09-04-2012, 04:11 AM
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These two specific HUD features are doable if your car is programed with 47.x.
is there a chance to program my car with 47.x myself without contact the dealer.

any instruction or possibility to get these update without 100 bottles of scotch ?

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Old 09-04-2012, 04:18 AM
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Dreamcar, you lost me. I'm not talking about a HUD upgrade per se', rather a few new features that were included in the 47.x release. These can be had for all HUD users if they upgrade to 47.x. The new CIC/ Navigation system is what can't be upgraded via firmware / software. That will require a whole new CIC Head Unit and HU_NBT Module, but this has no bearing on the HUD.
By HUD upgrade I mean the additional features.
I was referring to 47.4 update with out the dealer.
Anyways let me check if we discussed it here if not I have try talking in my dealer.
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Old 09-04-2012, 05:02 AM
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is there a chance to program my car with 47.x myself without contact the dealer.

any instruction or possibility to get these update without 100 bottles of scotch ?
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I say program the car because that is how ISTA/P works. It doesn't target single ECU's. It evaluates all ECU's and brings the car up to the current Integration Level, upgrading only those ECU's with newer firmware that need it. You could program the car yourself; however, you would need a virtualized / stand alone version of ISTA/P, an ICOM interface ($$$$$), and a car charger.

For just these new features though, programming is a bit overkill. All that is needed is to update the KOMBI firmware only. You can flash ECU firmware in E-Sys; however, it is not well understood or documented. Malcolm (user mjgood) did flash the firmware on his Combox and CIC using E-Sys in order to get 6NR BMW Apps capability. Apart from him, I have yet to hear of anyone else doing it with E-Sys. I think the E-Sys TAL took about two hours to flash his CIC running over an ENET cable.

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By HUD upgrade I mean the additional features.
I was referring to 47.4 update with out the dealer.
Anyways let me check if we discussed it here if not I have try talking in my dealer.
Short of flashing Kombi, I don't see how.
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So how do i know what level my car is cufrently programmed with? And what exactly do i ask my service manager for?

If i tell him i would like to get my car the latest sw upgrade to 47.xx will he know what i'm talking about?

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Old 09-04-2012, 05:24 AM
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OK -

So how do i know what level my car is cufrently programmed with? And what exactly do i ask my service manager for?

If i tell him i would like to get my car the latest sw upgrade to 47.xx will he know what i'm talking about?

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Go to VCM Module, then click in the VCM Master Tab, then click Read under I-Steps (Integration Levels). The I-Step (current) can be cross-referenced to an ISTA/P version.
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Old 09-04-2012, 07:54 PM
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You could program the car yourself; however, you would need a virtualized / stand alone version of ISTA/P, an ICOM interface ($$$$$), and a car charger.
I have VM ISTA/P and an ICOM. I will have to try this when I get back from my business travels. However if you know of any tutorials or someone who has actually done this, that would be super helpful.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:00 PM
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@falcongeek;

Does your car have option 6VC (Combox)? I am guessing not. And do you have CMB_MEDIA and CMB_ECALL ECU's showing in E-Sys?

Also, what is your Bluetooth option? I am guessing instead of 639 and 6FL you have only 6NL?

Lastly, were you able to code and get working the Turn Signals in your HUD?
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:14 PM
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@falcongeek;

Does your car have option 6VC (Combox)? I am guessing not. And do you have CMB_MEDIA and CMB_ECALL ECU's showing in E-Sys?

Also, what is your Bluetooth option? I am guessing instead of 639 and 6FL you have only 6NL?

Lastly, were you able to code and get working the Turn Signals in your HUD?
I am not sure if I have the 6VC, 639, 6FL or 6NL (how would i check this?). I posted a screenshot in the 2013 F10 psdzdata thread showing all of the modules that I have (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...1&d=1346019985). CMB_MEDIA and CMB_ECALL ECUs are not showing up for me.

I posted to the other thread, but I wasn't able to get the HUD turn signals working either.

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Old 09-13-2012, 07:23 PM
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I am not sure if I have the 6VC, 639, 6FL or 6NL (how would i check this?). I posted a screenshot in the 2013 F10 psdzdata thread showing all of the modules that I have (http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/att...1&d=1346019985). CMB_MEDIA and CMB_ECALL ECUs are not showing up for me.

I posted to the other thread, but I wasn't able to get the HUD turn signals working either.

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Please go to BMWVin.com and check your car's options. Thanks.
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Old 09-13-2012, 07:27 PM
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Please go to BMWVin.com and check your car's options. Thanks.
You were right: I don't have 6VC, 639 or 6FL. I only have the 6NL bluetooth option.

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You were right: I don't have 6VC, 639 or 6FL. I only have the 6NL bluetooth option.

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Yep. It seems the new HU_NBT has the Combox built into it.
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For those eager and brave souls wanting the new KOMBI firmware......I think we are very close to an E-Sys ECU Flashing Guide....

You may want to start shopping for a Car Charger now...
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After driving around with this new feature activated I can safely say its increased the HUD's usability 10 fold. If you don't have the navigation on the HUD just shows you how fast you are going. While cool its novelty wears off pretty fast. Now with this i actually look at the HUD a lot more.

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For those eager and brave souls wanting the new KOMBI firmware......I think we are very close to an E-Sys ECU Flashing Guide....

You may want to start shopping for a Car Charger now...
@shawnsheridan,

That made my day. I am going out right now to buy my charger.

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Shawn, would that help me? Remember I'm one of the lucky ones with a 5/12 build 2012 535i with the odd HU_CIC ending in I think 157 or 159 that doesn't match any of the other software.

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Shawn, would that help me? Remember I'm one of the lucky ones with a 5/12 build 2012 535i with the odd HU_CIC ending in I think 157 or 159 that doesn't match any of the other software.

Thanks,

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Yes, it would. You could wave goodbye to 157.
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Great, let me know if there is any way I can help. I've got pretty much everything on my 535i except night vision. I assume that it is just a regular battery charger to keep the car going while the system is reflashed? Any recomendations?

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For those eager and brave souls wanting the new KOMBI firmware......I think we are very close to an E-Sys ECU Flashing Guide....

You may want to start shopping for a Car Charger now...


Shawn which kind of car charger?
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...I assume that it is just a regular battery charger to keep the car going while the system is reflashed? Any recomendations?

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Shawn which kind of car charger?
Most people keep it simple with one of these OEM ones:

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E39-530...4684/ES194684/

http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E39-530...4684/ES195108/

Or, the after market ones made by CTEK, like the 3300 or 7002, are also highly recommended:

http://smartercharger.com/battery-chargers/

Or, you could go balls out like mjgood, and get the attached industrial Schumacher charging beast on a cart.

He picked his up at AutoZone for $120.
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For those eager and brave souls wanting the new KOMBI firmware......I think we are very close to an E-Sys ECU Flashing Guide....

You may want to start shopping for a Car Charger now...
I am almost ready. My new laptop is almost done, having had to reinstall everything and find stuff from older backups. Downloading 47.4 as i write...

I should be fully ready in the next couple of days.

Since, I have a May 2012 F10 (with Full Black Panel, Professional Nav & HUD) - I would love to get the additional functionality of Tel/Audio on HUD.

So, count me in...

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Old 09-18-2012, 05:52 AM
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I had my car (528i Feb 2011 build) programmed with the latest software i-step F010-12-07-520. I am not sure the equivalent ISTA/P version is, but I suspect it will be 47.x.

I was able to successfully code the radio menu and telephone options in the HUD, as mentioned in post #1 by coding the KOMBI module Section 3000
- HUD_ENTERTAINMENT_ENABLE to aktiv (enables radio menu)
- HUD_TELEFONANRUF_ENABLE to aktiv (enables recent calls list to be displayed)
Both options exist in the KOMBI Module after the software update (they did not exist in the older version).

However, I was unable to locate HUD_ENTERTAINMENTLIST in the HU_CIC module.
Not a concern, as I still get the functionality in the HUD. I am very happy with this
Where did you identify F010-12-07-520?

Did you get this from E-Sys VCM Current I-Step, and can you confirm this is the Integration Level Reported there? The 520 is puzzling, as for F10 chassis, all I have seen from 7/12 is 531, 532, and 533. In fact, I don't even see a 520 for any other chassis either.
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Where did you identify F010-12-07-520?

Did you get this from E-Sys VCM Current I-Step, and can you confirm this is the Integration Level Reported there? The 520 is puzzling, as for F10 chassis, all I have seen from 7/12 is 531, 532, and 533. In fact, I don't even see a 520 for any other chassis either.
Good pick-up. I checked the integration level again and it is actually F010-12-07-532. I am not sure where I got the 520 from
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Good pick-up. I checked the integration level again and it is actually F010-12-07-532. I am not sure where I got the 520 from
Ok. Thank you. You have ISTA/P 2.47.4.
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