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Old 07-04-2012, 10:33 AM
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Talking OT: BMW'S aren't that hard to steal LOL

A few criminal's manage to steal a BMW 1M in 3 minutes

I always thought that they had one of th best alarm systems.

Seems that crooked INDY shop's is giving crminal's this information and the tools NASTY.







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Old 07-04-2012, 10:37 AM
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For those members who can speak french this also a interesting video

Even a mini is not a problem for those guy's

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xgjrdw_renard_news#
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Old 09-12-2012, 11:48 AM
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*** ALL BMW OWNERS *** Look at this - Car Key compromised for THEFT of car !!!

*** ALL BMW OWNERS *** Look at this ! - Car Key compromised for THEFT of car !!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19562487
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Old 09-12-2012, 11:58 AM
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So I'm guessing 02-09 7 series are affected?

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Its on UK National news just now.........

Blank key is 6300 to buy online and works on any series of BMW !

All cars after 2011 are not affected !

BMW offering free upgrade to security system to owners but is not going to contact the ones affected !!
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:42 PM
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so basically its an auto programmable key or rolling code, right?
This is a good thing, and a bad thing.
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:11 PM
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*** ALL BMW OWNERS *** Look at this ! - Car Key compromised for THEFT of car !!!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19562487
To all only people with Comfort Acces (Keyless Entry)should watch for this,talked about this with my dealer a few weeks ago i also posted a thread about this.Dealer told me beacause Comfort Acces keys constantly transmitting a signal so someone with bad intentions could pick up the signal just by walking past you with the right equipment and steal youre car LOL


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Old 09-12-2012, 01:32 PM
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This is scary... I mean does BMW have anything in line to rectify the problem?
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:41 PM
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This is scary... I mean does BMW have anything in line to rectify the problem?
No in fact it's a Dutch Company who provides the chip that BMW is using in THE keys and they warned BMW about this but due to costs BMW decide to use THE technology anyway.BMW 1 series E60 5 series and 7 series with Keyless Entry can be hacked.Also VW,AUDI and a few Asian Cars also people with a E65/E66 without CA (Keyless Entry) no stress.
This is what several dealers told me.
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Old 09-12-2012, 01:44 PM
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Oh one more thing,BMW was told by THE Dutch company that they could offer a better safety technology key but then again it cost more money which BMW wouldn't pay
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:41 AM
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BMW Customer Services UK have just told me that this security problem (where a key can be programmed using a cheap OBD programmer in seconds) only affects cars built after March 2007 and before September 2012

However, didn't Ace recently reprogram his fob using a cheap ebay programmer for his new C/A retrofit...

We need to know if this is BMW limiting the recall to newer cars (saving themselves money) or if cars made between those times above are truly excluded from this threat...

@TechFreak
I'm talking about the cheap OBD device that can program any key to start your car, not some master key for 6k

Looks like their are two ways of doing this then...

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THIS IS WHAT THAY ARE USING
http://www.vag-info.com/BMW%20Group%20products.htm

IT IS EXPENSES 8000 EURO
LOOK AT THE VIDEO
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Thanks tech freak for this. I am going to stick this for a while untill we can find some answers.

Nice to see you post here again.

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Old 09-14-2012, 07:06 AM
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Posted a thread about this a long time ago with videos etc nobody cares Tech Freak makes a thread about it and he get's a sticky LOL
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If you want to read Lastcombo's post here it is. Sorry LC I dont know if I was a MOD at the time..........

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=631111

and If I was a MOD I sure didnt know what the hell I was doing
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:49 AM
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If you want to read Lastcombo's post here it is. Sorry LC I dont know if I was a MOD at the time..........

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=631111

and If I was a MOD I sure didnt know what the hell I was doing
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Old 09-14-2012, 10:50 AM
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THIS IS WHAT THAY ARE USING
http://www.vag-info.com/BMW%20Group%20products.htm

IT IS EXPENSES 8000 EURO
LOOK AT THE VIDEO
If I was nicking BMWs, I'd use the interface in my video..[unless, see below]

It's quicker and doesn't make stupid fruit machine noises, which at 2am might just get you caught lol

I don't what the difference is, but as a computer programmer, I would say the one shown in my post does away with all the 'procedure' and just programmes a blank to the car, whereas the one in your post is more professional and *may* allow many types of cars to be stolen..

I don't know if the programmer in my post works with more than one type of key/car but, whatever the problem, I wish we could get a real answer on whether pre March '07 cars are affected as I just find it hard to believe...

...or perhaps it's just easier to believe BMW would B$ their customers with older vehicles to reduce the recall cost lol..
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No hard feelings Sir
I thought it was funny!!!!!!
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Old 09-14-2012, 11:41 AM
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Actually, this video is more like the unit thieves would be using....



Instructions: http://www.autokeyprog.com/cat_doc/immotool.pdf
(EDIT: No mention of March 2007 in that...More BMW B$ )
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i can't believe what i'm seem and hearing... this is crazy...

is there something we can to avoid this..
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this is why i alway garage my babe..
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Hello everybody, just talked to rep from BMW NA. He was saying that to quote him, "the BMW system is unbreakable according to the latest bulletin that we have". .... Yeah... Right At the same time he refused to send me a letter to confirm this. Looks like they still have no idea what to do Oh, by the way, just joined your board as I bought my 08 750 last week. My other BMW's are 98 328 and 00 M5. Cheers!
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Hello everybody, just talked to rep from BMW NA. He was saying that to quote him, "the BMW system is unbreakable according to the latest bulletin that we have". .... Yeah... Right At the same time he refused to send me a letter to confirm this. Looks like they still have no idea what to do Oh, by the way, just joined your board as I bought my 08 750 last week. My other BMW's are 98 328 and 00 M5. Cheers!
That is funny he refused to send the letter to confirm the bulletin.
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Why is everyone shocked? BMW, microsoft, IBM or any company comes out with technology and there will always be a genius somewhere just as smart as the developer to hack or counter the technology. I have always known if the thief wants it bad enough he will get it, by damage, technology etc...... The key is to make your property more of a hassle to steal than the one down the block. Not to mention I am sure all the indys we go to can do it with their knowledge. Just like a locksmith can get in your house if you get locked out.
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Why is everyone shocked? BMW, microsoft, IBM or any company comes out with technology and there will always be a genius somewhere just as smart as the developer to hack or counter the technology. I have always known if the thief wants it bad enough he will get it, by damage, technology etc...... The key is to make your property more of a hassle to steal than the one down the block. Not to mention I am sure all the indys we go to can do it with their knowledge. Just like a locksmith can get in your house if you get locked out.
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