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Old 03-14-2015, 05:46 AM
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Active Sound Design (ASD) Retrofit progress

Hi guys

I thought I'd post of this thread to share my progress on retrofitting Active Sound Design to my 2013 328i MSport.

To start off with I ordered the module. It has various part numbers, but apparently they are all the same: 65129352264*; 65129326555; 65129343317; 65129353021; 65129362445; 65129362445; 65 12 9 322 712 (03/12 -> ); 65 12 9 302 536 (03/12 -> 07/13).*

I could not get a part number for the connector so I will be making up my own.

Next up I got the pin assignments from ISTA Rheingold:


Here is the inside of the connector:


I then transposed all the pin assignments onto an image to make my life easier:


I then continued to only connect power and the CAN signal.


ISTA detects the new module
ISTA before:


ISTA after:


E-SYS detects the new module:


After this I flashed the ASD module. I used a modified FA where I changed the production code typekey to 3C17 to ensure it is a production code that included ASD.

Here is the FDL edit view afterward:



Next thing I must connect the feed from NBT head unit and output to the AMP. I first need to spend some time to make proper connectors so will update all you guys once I progress further.

Very excited to see this retrofit work!

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Old 03-14-2015, 07:55 PM
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Old 03-18-2015, 01:50 PM
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Hi guys

Here are some videos of my retrofitted ASD in action.

First half of first video, comfort mode, barely noticeable (the way I want it). 2nd half of first video, sport mode, more noticeable.

Second video I messed around with F80 M4 settings. Way too aggressive and noticeable, especially on my aftermarket amp & speakers. What also sucks about the M4 setting is that the volume is constant on Eco-Pro,Comfort and Sport. Probably because M4 has different way of adjusting driving modes.



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Old 03-29-2015, 05:27 AM
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This is what I want information !!
Where did you connect K-can2 line ?? Fem module ?
Can you explain step by step ?
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Old 03-29-2015, 11:51 AM
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Old 04-04-2015, 03:40 AM
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After connect k-can2, Does it need ISTA-P to ensure the ASD module ?

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Old 04-06-2015, 02:36 AM
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Why don't you use original connector for ASD? ;-)
61 13 8 364 862
61 13 8 364 882
61 13 8 364 884
You need all 3 numbers. Plus, needed pins.

Good luck.
PS. For programming and coding you will need e-sys. Look for model which have ASD from factory, modify FA with needed model code (in mine case 535d, and i used m550d model code). And then you can flash it and code it. Don't write this FA into car.
ISTA/P will always cry that you need to remove this module, as it's not from factory.
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Old 04-06-2015, 11:19 PM
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yeah, I bought the connectors, and pins, already.
You mean it needs VO coding?
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Old 04-07-2015, 05:32 AM
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why do you want to do this vs an exhaust? Just curious I figured people would be disabling it not adding it
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Old 04-07-2015, 06:41 AM
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On mine diesel 535d ASD made really nice change in overall feeling about the car.
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Old 05-19-2015, 05:15 AM
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Is ASD TopHifi and Non-ASD TopHifi different? There are so many pins in ASD where do they connect to if you have TopHifi amp?
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Old 05-19-2015, 06:27 PM
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If you have top-hifi amplifier must have additional pins to connect ASD module , no other chance because sound input of top hifi is on fiber MOST bus
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:55 AM
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Is there any shop out there that provides this service of retrofitting Active Sound? I too, have a 2013 328i M Sport.

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Old 06-05-2015, 07:50 AM
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If you have some experience of wiring this retrofit is not difficult i will tell you everithing if you want ( 4 retrofitted cars till now )
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Old 06-05-2015, 11:13 AM
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If you have some experience of wiring this retrofit is not difficult i will tell you everithing if you want ( 4 retrofitted cars till now )
Best regards
Thanks for the offer. I have zero experience wiring anything. Would I still be able to do this myself with some help?
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Old 06-06-2015, 05:32 AM
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First of all what is your sound system ( stereo , hifi or top-hifi ) ?
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First of all what is your sound system ( stereo , hifi or top-hifi ) ?
I have Harmon Kardon (my sig below).
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Old 06-07-2015, 09:26 PM
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Hi,

I too interested to retrofit this. If i have retrofitted the harman Kardon (previously from M5), is this retrofit straightforward? Just get the right connectors and bridge the ASD module with amplifier and headunit, then connect the kcan2 cables?
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Old 06-09-2015, 01:01 AM
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I too interested to retrofit this. If i have retrofitted the harman Kardon (previously from M5), is this retrofit straightforward? Just get the right connectors and bridge the ASD module with amplifier and headunit, then connect the kcan2 cables?
Yes ! CAN lines is same like in NBT and if you have CIC you need to connect ASD CAN lines to ZGW connector on KCAN2
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I have Harmon Kardon (my sig below).
I am not shure but I think harman in F30 dont have MOST ring connected to amplifier , you need to cut wires for audio signal between Headunit and amplifier and root it to ASD module ( connections are shown in first posts and is found in Rheingolg too ) and connect +12v , GND , Power on from Headunit and CAN lines from ASD module to KCAN2
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I have checked the diagram to install ASD with my HK amplifier (with ASD) and NBT. Should be quite easy but i can't find the connector on the amplifier end to connect it with ASD.

Anyone know what is the part number for HK amplifier to connect with ASD? Do i need to purchase the bracket as well for ASD and the part number?

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Old 06-13-2015, 12:39 PM
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Do your amplifier have MOST connector on it or only wires ?
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Yes i have most connected to my nbt but since mine was retrofitted, i am not sure whether they used connector or not. I think i need to open up and take a look. Thanks.
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Old 06-25-2015, 09:50 PM
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Anyone know of any shop or individual in Houston who would retrofit or at least help me part of the way retrofitting Active Sound Design?

I just asked a place called Moter Werks with a link to this thread and they said there is just too much programming.

Any other places I should ask?
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