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Old 10-10-2012, 07:10 AM
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:30 AM
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UPDATE: I got my car back on Friday after they did a hard road wheel balance (not sure what that is) and the vibration is almost gone. I have a few concerns running through my mind right now and not sure how to proceed. Has anyone had work done to correct this issue and it improve dramatically? My concerns are this: Will it return after time? Should I press the issue now that they take the car back or just wait it out? Three years from now when I go to trade it in, will this affect the value because they started a puma report on the issue? I'm really on the fence about whether to push them to take it back or just wait it out - will waiting it out hurt me?

Someone should change the thread title to 2012/2013 Steering Wheel Vibration

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Old 10-15-2012, 07:21 AM
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UPDATE: I got my car back on Friday after they did a hard road wheel balance (not sure what that is) and the vibration is almost gone. I have a few concerns running through my mind right now and not sure how to proceed. Has anyone had work done to correct this issue and it improve dramatically? My concerns are this: Will it return after time? Should I press the issue now that they take the car back or just wait it out? Three years from now when I go to trade it in, will this affect the value because they started a puma report on the issue? I'm really on the fence about whether to push them to take it back or just wait it out - will waiting it out hurt me?

Someone should change the thread title to 2012/2013 Steering Wheel Vibration

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Ultimately it comes down to if you can live with it. If you will always be bothered by it then maybe you should not accept it.

If your car is a lease and BMW did the work you have absolutely nothing to worry about at lease turn in time regarding this problem.
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:39 AM
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UPDATE: I got my car back on Friday after they did a hard road wheel balance (not sure what that is) and the vibration is almost gone. I have a few concerns running through my mind right now and not sure how to proceed. Has anyone had work done to correct this issue and it improve dramatically? My concerns are this: Will it return after time? Should I press the issue now that they take the car back or just wait it out? Three years from now when I go to trade it in, will this affect the value because they started a puma report on the issue? I'm really on the fence about whether to push them to take it back or just wait it out - will waiting it out hurt me?

Someone should change the thread title to 2012/2013 Steering Wheel Vibration

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It bothers have them take it back. You will probably have the same issue again tho it seems If you get dynamic handling you prob won't. I will probably have it again on my new car but that's ok. I can live with it as its not that big of a nuisance. It's just not what I expect from a BMW.
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:31 AM
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UPDATE: I got my car back on Friday after they did a hard road wheel balance (not sure what that is) and the vibration is almost gone. I have a few concerns running through my mind right now and not sure how to proceed. Has anyone had work done to correct this issue and it improve dramatically? My concerns are this: Will it return after time? Should I press the issue now that they take the car back or just wait it out? Three years from now when I go to trade it in, will this affect the value because they started a puma report on the issue? I'm really on the fence about whether to push them to take it back or just wait it out - will waiting it out hurt me?

Someone should change the thread title to 2012/2013 Steering Wheel Vibration

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I went through two, yes two F30 335i's that both had steering wheel vibration. A 2012 F30 that I custom ordered when the new car was announced and a 2013 F30 M sport that also had to problem. I found this issue unacceptable on vehicles with MSRPs of 54,400 and 56,500. The only reason why I got out of these cars was because of my buying history with the dealership. Sadly I will not be buying a BMW as a replacement for these 2 cars.
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Old 10-15-2012, 08:55 AM
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I went through two, yes two F30 335i's that both had steering wheel vibration. A 2012 F30 that I custom ordered when the new car was announced and a 2013 F30 M sport that also had to problem. I found this issue unacceptable on vehicles with MSRPs of 54,400 and 56,500. The only reason why I got out of these cars was because of my buying history with the dealership. Sadly I will not be buying a BMW as a replacement for these 2 cars.
Did either of these two affected F30s have the Adaptive M Suspension and/or Variable Sport Steering?
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:04 AM
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Did either of these two affected F30s have the Adaptive M Suspension and/or Variable Sport Steering?
Neither had the VSS or Adaptive M.
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:20 AM
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Neither had the VSS or Adaptive M.
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:44 AM
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I experienced the vibrating steering issue with my 12 328 Sport as well. Dealer tried rebalancing, road force testing, alignment adjustments, switching tire brands and designation (All season to summer perf) and nothing helped. I adjusted the tire pressure to the load indicated for driving over 100 mph, and i noticed an improvement. But it was still present no matter what i tried....

BMW traded me out of my lease into a 13 328 Msport with adaptive and VSS and the 40-60 mph vibration is gone. The only vibrations I feel now are road generated, so Im very pleased.

My advice to everyone, drive one before you buy/lease. At around 45 mph, take your hands off the wheel for a minute and watch for the wheel pulsating back and forth. If its present, ask to order a new one. I would also recommend to everyone to opt for the DHP. Its a phenomenal improvement to the ride quality and overall enjoyment of the car. the improvement over standard is well worth the $900. Take it from me, I put 10k on my Sport before trade out and the ride is night and day between the 2. If thats the only option you choose on your car, youll be more than happy.

If you do have the vibrating issue, do not accept it and go directly to your Sales Manager. I would also get the GM involved. If you're patient and courteous, they will help you. Putting in a polite call to BMWNA will also help move things along. It took a bit of effort from my end to get a resolution, but it all worked out very well in the end.
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Old 10-15-2012, 10:57 AM
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I gotta believe that has something to do with the electic power steering. Its almost as if the centering control is fighting itself. Do you guys feel this vibration only on straights or in turns too?
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Old 10-15-2012, 12:21 PM
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Old 10-15-2012, 03:06 PM
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UPDATE: I got my car back on Friday after they did a hard road wheel balance (not sure what that is) and the vibration is almost gone. I have a few concerns running through my mind right now and not sure how to proceed. Has anyone had work done to correct this issue and it improve dramatically? My concerns are this: Will it return after time? Should I press the issue now that they take the car back or just wait it out? Three years from now when I go to trade it in, will this affect the value because they started a puma report on the issue? I'm really on the fence about whether to push them to take it back or just wait it out - will waiting it out hurt me?

Someone should change the thread title to 2012/2013 Steering Wheel Vibration

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Almost gone? If I were you, I wouldn't accept an "almost" smooth steering wheel in a car that cost this much. I can tolerate many faults in a car. Steering vibration isn't one of them.
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:55 PM
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I went through two, yes two F30 335i's that both had steering wheel vibration. A 2012 F30 that I custom ordered when the new car was announced and a 2013 F30 M sport that also had to problem. I found this issue unacceptable on vehicles with MSRPs of 54,400 and 56,500. The only reason why I got out of these cars was because of my buying history with the dealership. Sadly I will not be buying a BMW as a replacement for these 2 cars.
Wow what can I say bro you must be one unlucky dude. I have my car for almost a week now, zero vibration, hell the thing is so smooth you feel you are on a plane.
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:00 PM
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Wow what can I say bro you must be one unlucky dude. I have my car for almost a week now, zero vibration, hell the thing is so smooth you feel you are on a plane.
It seems like if you have the dynamic handling package you wont have the steering vibration issue.
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Wow what can I say bro you must be one unlucky dude. I have my car for almost a week now, zero vibration, hell the thing is so smooth you feel you are on a plane.
I have no idea what planes you fly on, but the ones I fly on leave my body in pretty bad shape...

(smooth = pressurized gas tube with engines so loud you can barely hear the next row?)
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:07 AM
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Update:
Took my car in this morning to have them look hub/wheel interface. I know this is most likely not the issue and if it's not fixed, I will be calling BMWNA to start the whole "fix it or give me a new car" process. I had my Dad drive my car this weekend and asked him (without telling him specifically) if he noticed anything strange in the way it drove. He said "it drives great, with the exception of this steering wheel shimmy." That just further solidified the fact that I'm not imagining the issue. Also, the loaner this morning was a brand new '13 F30 Sport with 325mi on the odometer. Between the drive from the dealership to my office, there was ZERO vibration.
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Took my car in this morning to have them look hub/wheel interface. I know this is most likely not the issue and if it's not fixed, I will be calling BMWNA to start the whole "fix it or give me a new car" process. I had my Dad drive my car this weekend and asked him (without telling him specifically) if he noticed anything strange in the way it drove. He said "it drives great, with the exception of this steering wheel shimmy." That just further solidified the fact that I'm not imagining the issue. Also, the loaner this morning was a brand new '13 F30 Sport with 325mi on the odometer. Between the drive from the dealership to my office, there was ZERO vibration.
did the loaner have dhp?
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did the loaner have dhp?
I seriously doubt the dealer loaner would have that option, but how would I know if it did? Is there a separate button somewhere to change the chassis options?
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I seriously doubt the dealer loaner would have that option, but how would I know if it did? Is there a separate button somewhere to change the chassis options?
You could jot down the last 7 of the VIN and plug it into BMWVIN.COM
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I seriously doubt the dealer loaner would have that option, but how would I know if it did? Is there a separate button somewhere to change the chassis options?
when you click sport mode, there should be an option on the idrive for chasis settings
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UPDATE: BMWNA has agreed to do a "trade assist" for me to switch to a 528. The dealer asked that I build it (528) the way I'd want it - same features I ordered on my 328. It totals $55,720 w/dest & handling. Unfortunately, the dealer doesn't have one in stock the way I'd want it. So they are trying to find out if BMWNA will allow me to order it they way I want it. At this point, they've not discussed what type of "deal" they are going to give me - I'm hoping it isn't more than what I want to spend. If it is, I think I'll ask to return the 328 and walk aways from BMW altogether. My Sales Advisor has been great - dealing with the BMWNA rep hasn't been the best experience. At this point, I'm just holding my breath until I get the "price."

This has just been a BIG Bummer!!!!
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Update from yesterday:
I got my car back yesterday and for now, the vibration is gone. The steering wheel still has some movement to it, but nothing more than just typical feedback from uneven pavement. There is no uniform frequency to the steering wheel oscillation like there was before. From what the SA said, they did a road force rebalance and put the tire with the highest value on the back...I think it was in the neighborhood of 23 but will have to check. The steering seems different now though...not bad, just different. Probably due to the wheels being rotated around on the car.

I have the square setup and was planning on rotating the tires every 5k miles, but maybe that's not a good idea if it causes vibration again. On my previous E36's the dealer did not recommend rotation. Wonder if that's still the case with the F30?
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My car, a 2012 328i, was in the shop for 4 days, I too had the steering wheel vibration issue (I don't have dynamic handing package). I picked up my car tonight and I'm happy to report the dealership fix it. I had conti pro contact tires, it turns out they were out of "round", which caused the vibration. They replaced all 4 tires with new contis, the dealership noticed they were also not perfectly round so they replaced all 4 tires with Michelin primacy mx4s. The car rides great, so far, it appears the problem was fixed.
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