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Old 11-05-2012, 02:13 PM
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'05 X3 GM Auto Trans fluid and filter change

Hi all...

My apologies for beating this dead horse yet again...

So, I want to change the ATF and filter on my '05 X3 3.0. It has a gm transmission. The label is attached below...

I asked the local dealer service dept what fluid I should use. They told me to use any Dexron VI. Bavauto recommends LiquiMoly TopTec 1200. ECS puts RedLine D4 ATF in their kit.

I was going to use the TopTec 1200. Anyone care to weigh in and tell me what they like?

Thanks...
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:43 AM
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I used Dex IV in my 05 X3 GM tranny. It worked fine.
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:47 AM
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Dex 4 not 6?
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Old 11-06-2012, 08:58 AM
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I'm a big fan of Redline. I don't have an automatic but I've been running their MTL in my MT for over 60K miles and I'm very pleased with it. If I had an automatic it would have Redline in it.
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:04 AM
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I'm a big fan of Redline. I don't have an automatic but I've been running their MTL in my MT for over 60K miles and I'm very pleased with it. If I had an automatic it would have Redline in it.
Thanks for the reply....

BTW... Are those the Blue Ridge Mountains in the background?
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Old 11-06-2012, 09:21 AM
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Thanks for the reply....

BTW... Are those the Blue Ridge Mountains in the background?
You're welcome and yes they are. The picture was taken along the Skyline Drive. We live in Florida and take a trip to the mountains every year during the hottest part of the summer as a respite from the heat.

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Old 11-06-2012, 09:26 AM
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You're welcome and yes they are. The picture was taken along the Skyline Drive. We live in Florida and take a trip to the mountains every year during the hottest part of the summer as a respite from the heat.
Cool... About 10 years ago I took my old '01 330i MT sport there to do the Tail of the Dragon. That was awesome.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:33 PM
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I used Dex IV in my 05 X3 GM tranny. It worked fine.
Sorry Fat Fingers! Should be DEX VI.
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:47 PM
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Sorry Fat Fingers! Should be DEX VI.
That's what I thought... Just checking... Thanks!

I guess it's either Redline D6 or TopTec 1200....
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:23 PM
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That's what I thought... Just checking... Thanks!

I guess it's either Redline D6 or TopTec 1200....
I have been considering using d6 for next change but not sure it matters because I change mine every 25k miles along with diff and xfer case (have since new). Good old valvoline dex vi from napa works just fine.
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:45 PM
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I have been considering using d6 for next change but not sure it matters because I change mine every 25k miles along with diff and xfer case (have since new). Good old valvoline dex vi from napa works just fine.
Do you change the filter each time as well? How much AT fluid do you use for each change?

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Old 11-07-2012, 04:41 AM
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I do change the filter & gasket each time. As I recall, dropping the pan results in about 8 qts of replacement fluid. If you decide to do it, the only thing to look out for is the gasket on the neck of the filter. This tends to get stuck up in the transmision bore. It's not very difficult to pull out, but trying to jam another one on top of the old one is definitely a bad idea.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:52 AM
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I do change the filter & gasket each time. As I recall, dropping the pan results in about 8 qts of replacement fluid. If you decide to do it, the only thing to look out for is the gasket on the neck of the filter. This tends to get stuck up in the transmision bore. It's not very difficult to pull out, but trying to jam another one on top of the old one is definitely a bad idea.
Great. Thank you... Yeah, I'm going to do it. I was trying to guess how much fluid I'd need to dump, refill, dump, change the filter, final fill.

Thanks...
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Old 11-07-2012, 08:21 AM
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He beat me to it... 8qts for my 6 speed gm auto.

As a side note, I have had the dealer change my fluid since new because I had the maintenance plan to 100k. I got one free tranny fluid change and the others were on me.

I only changed the filter at 100k the others were fluid only. I think now that I am above 100k I will start doing fluid and filter but haven't decided.

Also my point on dexron vi...it is a licensed name from GM meaning if the fluid has that name on the bottle it is the same formula. I don't see there would be a difference between dexron vi with a BMW label or valvoline label. Heck they might be made at the same refinery.

Now redline d6 and liquid moly are different names meaning they are not licensed formulas. No big deal as they are similar spec...maybe better...dunno on that point....
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Old 05-29-2013, 08:17 AM
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Do we need redline D4 or redline D6 ATF fluid for the GM tranny? The ECS tuning page with the kit (http://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E83-X3-..._Transmission/) shows D4 - however, redline d4 is dexron 2/3 compatible (http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=51&pcid=9). Redline d6 is dexron 6 compatible (http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=115&pcid=9)

However, amazon states that the redline d6 is not compatible with the 2005 X3. I'm confused.
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Old 05-29-2013, 09:19 AM
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However, amazon states that the redline d6 is not compatible with the 2005 X3. I'm confused.
I think the point is that the Redline D4 more closely matches the specs. of the factory fill in the 5-speed ('04-'07) A/T.

Maybe not exactly, as it tries to cover a large range of applications, but certainly it will have characteristics more like the fluid left in after a drain than the Redline D6 would.

The Redline D6 supersedes it, and may be the better choice in the long run if you view it as a conversion to a new and improved fluid.

Amazon is correct if you go just by Redline's product data sheet, but if you ask BMW they appear to now recommend D6 for all years.
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