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Old 11-14-2011, 12:51 PM
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What tires work well other than Pirellis?

I'm not impressed at all with the Pirelli Scorpions 235/55 that were my X3 when I got it. Tread wear is horrible! I'm not even at 38,000 and they all need to be replaced! What else is recommended? I'm in Minnesota and I have a feeling there's going to be alot of snow this year!
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Old 11-14-2011, 01:07 PM
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I like the Michelin MXV4.Had them on for a year and have been very pleased with them.
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Old 11-14-2011, 06:49 PM
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i had good luck with the oem pirelli's (65k miles). Changed them last year with yoko avid envigour and have been happy (little less grippy in the snow though). About $250 cheaper than the scorpians for a set. got them at tire rack
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Old 11-14-2011, 07:33 PM
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The Pirelli Scorpions have a fairly good rep on this forum; what was wrong with them when they wore out? Could have been an alignment issue.

If you want good snow performance, learn to have separate wheels/tire sets for summer and winter. That way you can get a good dedicated winter/snow tire for 6 months (or however long winter is up there) and use summer tires for the rest of the year.
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Old 11-14-2011, 09:13 PM
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right now i have all season Nitto Crosstek CUVs. I was told they had a good tirewear rating...
Don't really have any problem with them, they warm up pretty easily on warm days, and have enough grip for the way i drive.

i can't say I would recommend them... I'm still testing them out. Less road noise compared to my old continental contiprocontacts
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Old 11-15-2011, 02:34 AM
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I have switched to the Michelin A/S as well and have been very happy with them as far as handling and ride.

Although Maryland is not known for its snow, I did have these when we got hit with a record 3 foot snowfall in one day.

I was able to navigate just about everywhere with these, I also had them in about six inches of mud on an old logging road, and in some of the worst rain faill ages.

Try using search as this topic has been covered ad nauseum.
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Old 11-15-2011, 06:29 AM
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:13 AM
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I changed my OEM 18" Scorpions for the Michelin Pilot Sport Plus tires from tirerack at 48K miles. Still had lots of tread left but the Scorpions were stiff and hard riding. I wanted a better ride and softer tire. I got that and more with the Michelins. Better ride and equal or better performance. Very happy with them after nearly 25K miles and they still look new.
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Old 11-15-2011, 12:59 PM
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Conti Extrteme DWS. Really liking them.
Same here, great tires
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Old 11-16-2011, 10:45 AM
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I'm not impressed at all with the Pirelli Scorpions 235/55 that were my X3 when I got it. Tread wear is horrible! I'm not even at 38,000 and they all need to be replaced! What else is recommended? I'm in Minnesota and I have a feeling there's going to be alot of snow this year!
Granted my perspective is that of an owner of an ///M where I rarely get more than 15K out of a set of tires, especially the fronts. To me 38K is pretty good. With that, I am pretty happy with the overall performance of my Pirelli's. Having had Michellin's on the ///M and being very happy with them, I would look for a M+S version for the X3, but I'm a very long way away from that with only 15K on my odometer so far (the ///M is more fun, it just is worthless in snow, ice or any type of slick road).
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Old 11-16-2011, 11:17 AM
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I was quite happy with my Scorpion STRs too.

I thought I wasn't getting a good wear out of them, because by 35k miles, they looked worn (like 4 or 5/32s around) however, by the time they got down to 2/32's, I found I had gotten 56k miles out of them...

Now that tire prices have increased probably 8 times since I last bought them, I'm wondering if I'll have as good luck with something like Pirelli PZero Nero All Seasons?

I'll keep the Continentals in mind and watch everyone else's opinions of them as I go...

Any others to keep in mind?
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Old 11-16-2011, 12:04 PM
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I have about 13k miles on my replacement set of Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus and I heartily recommmend them. The ride is significantly improved and the road holding and handling are comparable to the Pirellis. I was able to special order them from Sam's Club. That being said, I REALLY wanted the Continental ExtremeContact DWS, but they were on serious back order EVERYWHERE in the US back in Feb. I had about 51k on the Pirellis at that time and while they had a few thousand miles left in them, I ran over something on the highway, at night, and ended up with three flats, and all four tires and two rims ruined. All's well that ends...

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Old 11-16-2011, 09:03 PM
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why would you want a tire that lasts more than 40K anyway.
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Old 11-17-2011, 12:19 AM
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why would you want a tire that lasts more than 40K anyway.
Agree that treadwear shouldn't be the only factor in choosing a tire,
but if a good performing tire also lasts a long time, what's wrong with that?

Not sure why a few people get through Pirelli STR's quickly, but as Wongway observes -
once they get down to about 4 mm., it seems the rate of wear decreases significantly,
and there is lots of useful life left (providing no snow or ice conditions).

The ride becomes a lot harder, of course, with tread blocks that are less pliable.

Coming up for 8 years and 93K kms. (58K miles) on mine, and they will be replaced soon,
partly because of their age and partly because of winter coming up.

Coming close to the regulatory wear bars, but can't wait for that.

As you can see in the attached pics., tread wear is fairly even, and they still look fine at first glance.

This is with mostly fast highway driving, and exuberant corning when appropriate.

Would be interested to see pics. from those that report short life on these Pirellis.
I would suspect indications of over or under inflation, alignment issues, or an admission of being an habitual late braker.
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Old 11-17-2011, 06:31 AM
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why would you want a tire that lasts more than 40K anyway.
Not so much that the STRs lasted over 40k, however in the majority of cases, they provided the best combination of traction, wet weather handling (OEM Michellins were horrible for me in the rain where the Pirellis were still somewhat secure at 2/32s) cornering ability and even ride quality, all while still maintaining a decent treadlife.

I've never had a tire deliver all the above for me in an acceptable fashion before. I always had to compromise, and usually it was treadlife, which also means more $$ flying out of my wallet. After driving over 58k miles in 2 years, (including swapping out snows) how much more would I have spent in $$ for tires if I was driving a set that only gave me 10-15k miles?
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Old 11-18-2011, 03:04 PM
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I pulled the trigger on the Michelin Pilot Sport AS plus today... God I love the smell of new rubber in the morning.
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:25 PM
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I pulled the trigger on the Michelin Pilot Sport AS plus today... God I love the smell of new rubber in the morning.
Good all around tire in any weather. I had the Pirelli and they were good. The Michelin are just that much better and cheaper. So no brainer for me on recommendations.
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Old 11-19-2011, 10:03 AM
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Missy, with your cold temps in MN you might want to consider going the route of dedicated snow tires/winter wheels for your December through Feb/March. It's what I do here in Wyoming, and as well as the OEM Pirellis work in winter the snows work much better (a softer rubber compound). I went with the Dunlop tire/BMW wheel package BMW sells (you can do it for less $$) but am really pleased. My X3 goes to the dealership Tuesday for it's winter package.
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Old 11-19-2011, 12:21 PM
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I will say that at least with my car, I'm wearing out the rear tires notably faster than the front ones. They're all wearing evenly, just the front/rear wear is different. Guess it's that predominant rear-wheel drive bias
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Old 11-19-2011, 03:35 PM
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My Michelin Primacy MXV4 tires are great. 60k warranty, great handling, great in snow.

I am on my 2nd set.

About $750 or $800 for 4 at Costco.

I live in NH, so works great in very cold temps, rain and lots of snow!
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Old 12-08-2011, 07:57 AM
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Pirelli Scorpion tires

I put 53,000 miles on my leased 2008 X3 (way over my lease allotment of 36,000 miles, but that's another story). During the lease time I had to replace the Pirelli tires twice.

In March, 2011 when I turned in the leased car, I purchased a different leased 2008 X3 that had been returned to the dealer with only 16,500 miles driven. I had the newer tires from my original leased car put on the car that I purchased, figuring they had fewer miles on them.

Now these Pirelli tires have 23,000 miles on them and the right rear passenger tire has a small nail in it. The dealer is telling me that the tread is low enough that I should consider replacing my tires - especially since winter is coming & I live in central Wisconsin. Husband is upset at having to buy a 3rd set of tires during the 3 1/2 years that I've owned a BMW X3.

Since overall I've driven 69,000 miles and am needing to replace tires for the 3rd time, my impression of Pirelli tires isn't favorable. I can't afford to replace tires every year! Most of my driving is highway. When the 1st set of Scorpions needed to be replaced I tried putting a replacement tire from Farm & Fleet (don't remember the brand) and my car's ABS brake system went haywire - even though the correct-sized tires (235/55-R 17) were used so I ended up buying Pirelli Scorpions again. Thus I hesitate to switch brands unless I know for sure that what I select will actually work.

Thanks for any insight you can offer!
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:09 AM
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Don't know why you didn't have much success with Pirelli Scorpion STR's.

My originals lasted 58K miles/ 93K km. - only changed them because of age (8 years).
Some signs of cracking between the tread blocks - but they were not down to the wear bars.

Went with Yokohama Envigors in 235/55/17 because of good reports and good price.
Too early to properly evaluate them, but so far, so good.
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Old 12-08-2011, 08:33 AM
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Michelin Primacy. 60k mile warranty (make sure you rotate tires to have even wear). Quiet, great wet and snow traction (I am in NH).

Great price at Costco if you have one close.

BTW, my Pirelli's that came with the X3 were shot at 21k miles.
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Old 12-09-2011, 09:49 AM
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I will say that at least with my car, I'm wearing out the rear tires notably faster than the front ones. They're all wearing evenly, just the front/rear wear is different. Guess it's that predominant rear-wheel drive bias
I don't know that 'rear-wheel drive bias' is necessarily the culprit.... Given BMW's typical bias towards understeer, if you pushed the car fairly hard it over frequent turns you may get your front tires to wear more quickly as I do in the Rdstr.... As for the X3, I am way to early for too much tire wear at 16k and they do look pretty good with lots of life left..
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It is likely that the Pirellis in question are P Zero Neros which I put on mine last time. Why? Because I didn't want to spend a ton of money and wanted a decent tire - which they were. I got 35,000ish miles out of them and paid just below $500 out the door at Discount Tire. The grip was decent for here in Texas and they wore as flat as any tire I have ever had on a BMW or Mercedes. These tires are OE on the new Mustangs which is probably why the treadwear isn't better. All-in-all a good tire for the $ in my opinion.

Just replaced the Pirellis with Kuhmos - will see how well they do.
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