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Old 09-24-2012, 07:53 AM
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Possible problem with fuel filler neck?

I've got a 2011 335D and have had numerous problems with over filling (pump doesn't turn off) when re-fueling. This has happened at different gas stations in the Bay Area and Southern California. Lately, I've been filling up at a around a 1/4 tank and just putting 10 gallons in.

Kind of frustrating. I'll ask about it the next time I take the car in for service, but thought I'd post to see if anyone has had a similar experience.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:26 AM
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My car used to always do this but also it was PAINFULLY SLOW to fillup too. It turned out to be the nozzles all the Shells had because it stopped when I switched to Chevron. The dealer though did mention it could be a possible issue within the fill neck. I don't recall what they said because I did not bring it back for that problem since it stopped when I switched brands.
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Old 09-24-2012, 09:59 AM
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I've never had this happen. But then in NJ we also do not pump our own fuel .

But I do notice they always put the nozzel on the slower setting. I thought this was to avoid foaming but maybe helps with the overfill?
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:11 AM
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I've never had this happen. But then in NJ we also do not pump our own fuel .

But I do notice they always put the nozzel on the slower setting. I thought this was to avoid foaming but maybe helps with the overfill?
Are you 100% sure it is on the slow setting and not just pumping slow? I just think that would be strange for them to always pump diesel slowly. But it does foam up easily. When I fill my truck up at full speed I can put another 4 gallons in after the first stop but those are very slow gallons and me filling up the fill neck.
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:12 AM
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Fortunately the most of the pumps here in Toronto likes my D and the auto shut off works.

Occasionally I would find a pump that requires the use of the plastic filler adapter provided by BMW and then I would have to be careful not to spill the diesel.
I try not to go back to that station in future.
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:40 AM
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It happens to me whenever I use a specific Texaco station and the pump is slow due to cold weather.

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Old 09-24-2012, 10:41 AM
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The same thing happened to me at first.However,I soon found several stations near me that didn't cause spillovers and I used them to buy 99% of my fuel.Perhaps my method changes too.I placed the nozzle straight in...or as straight as I could...and pulled the handle all the way,maximizing the fuel flow.After that,spillover problem solved!
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Old 09-24-2012, 10:51 AM
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My problem was design of the car and pumps not meshing. Really was annoying at the time because same pumps on my other diesels had zero issues.
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Old 09-26-2012, 08:32 PM
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Are you 100% sure it is on the slow setting and not just pumping slow? I just think that would be strange for them to always pump diesel slowly. But it does foam up easily. When I fill my truck up at full speed I can put another 4 gallons in after the first stop but those are very slow gallons and me filling up the fill neck.
I manually monitor it and pump it as slow as possible at the end. Strange thing is that I tried using the exact same pump at the station that I normally go to and have gotten different results on multiple visits.
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Old 09-27-2012, 03:38 AM
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I manually monitor it and pump it as slow as possible at the end. Strange thing is that I tried using the exact same pump at the station that I normally go to and have gotten different results on multiple visits.
Sometimes pumps just get slow, I think it is issues with their filters but not really sure. For example this week I filled up the 335d at a Chevron I normally go to and it took FOREVER to fill the car up. A day or two later at the same pump I filled up my truck and it was lightning fast.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:18 AM
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Fortunately the most of the pumps here in Toronto likes my D and the auto shut off works.

Occasionally I would find a pump that requires the use of the plastic filler adapter provided by BMW and then I would have to be careful not to spill the diesel.
I try not to go back to that station in future.
Yes it's never been an issue for me too here in Toronto. I pretty much always fill up at the same two stations with one being a Shell and the other a Husky.
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Old 09-27-2012, 04:23 AM
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I firmly believe it is the stupid valve put in our fill necks to prevent gas nozzles that causes a problem with some pumps. I noticed Porsche uses something similar. Wondering if MBZ does too.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:07 AM
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lets verify thru the MB diesel forum, anyone?
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:08 AM
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@snipe verify this guy, Jacobxxx27 I clicked the link and nothing came up, a possible spammer?
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Old 09-27-2012, 02:25 PM
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My ML does not have any safety filler device like our D.
I've not encountered any problems with filling at any stations unlike the D where I had to use the plastic adapter on several occasions.

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Old 09-27-2012, 02:46 PM
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My ML does not have any safety filler device like our D.
I've not encountered any problems with filling at any stations unlike the D where I had to use the plastic adapter on several occasions.

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Good to know. I honestly never have seen people talk of it on MBZ forums that I randomly troll.
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:10 PM
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Even the VW TDI doesn't have this safety feature.
Looks like it's unique to BMW.

No wonder there are more incidents of misfueling by MB and VW owners of diesel vehicles!!

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Old 09-27-2012, 05:27 PM
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I had some hick ups the first few fills but not in a long time now.

I generally fill up at the same place and pump, set it on full flow and then will slow it down when it gets within 1 gallon of being full. I then top it off till a bit of foam comes bubbling up, round off my fill to the nearest whole dollar (I hate the cents!), input my data to Fuelly by SMS and then reset my OBC.

Works like a charm, every time!
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Old 09-27-2012, 05:58 PM
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Even the VW TDI doesn't have this safety feature.
Looks like it's unique to BMW.

No wonder there are more incidents of misfueling by MB and VW owners of diesel vehicles!!

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I just assumed VW and Audi had it since the Porsche does.
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Old 09-28-2012, 04:31 AM
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My Jetta TDI doesn't.
That's why last year VW sent all TDI owners yellow stickers to be attached to the fuel cap surround and behind the fuel door!lol
Quite a few TDI HP FP had to be replaced cos of gas being pumped in rather than diesel.
Cost of repair is almost $10,000.00!

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