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Old 09-02-2012, 07:17 AM
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anyone here have a viper??

As we all know were all sick in the head, my relentless persuit of cars has led me to a 04 and up viper. I was thinking of selling my corvette and getting a super low mileage viper prob an 05-06, and sell my 20k mile 02 vette. In hopes its a better car to hold onto. anyone have one that can offer some pros or cons?
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If it were me I would keep the Vette over the Viper any day. Specially with only 20k on the dash. What the hell do you drive everyday, all your cars have extremely low miles? I'm jealous. If you are really considering a viper there was a member on here selling one a few months back, I'm sure he can offers some great pros an cons.
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pros of a viper??? its a viper,v10 monster,headturner

cons??? mileage(mpg)

corvette is just a corvette in my opinion

here is few links of vipers on sale locally

http://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/cto/3226240306.html

http://cfl.craigslist.org/cto/3203487691.html

http://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/cto/3234511876.html

me myself is looking to buy a 87 up 911 carrera with 3.2l,g50 5spd
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Old 09-02-2012, 01:05 PM
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If it were me I would keep the Vette over the Viper any day. Specially with only 20k on the dash. What the hell do you drive everyday, all your cars have extremely low miles? I'm jealous. If you are really considering a viper there was a member on here selling one a few months back, I'm sure he can offers some great pros an cons.
I work from home and deal pretty locally as well. I also dont keep anything when the miles get up there. My 750 just turned 40k and if i dont do the viper i will prob get a new body 7

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pros of a viper??? its a viper,v10 monster,headturner

cons??? mileage(mpg)

corvette is just a corvette in my opinion

here is few links of vipers on sale locally

http://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/cto/3226240306.html

http://cfl.craigslist.org/cto/3203487691.html

http://fortmyers.craigslist.org/col/cto/3234511876.html

me myself is looking to buy a 87 up 911 carrera with 3.2l,g50 5spd
Kinda my thinking too, I dont really drive the vette and figure if Im going to hold onto it may be worth some good $$ in the future.(the viper)
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Old 09-02-2012, 01:07 PM
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Bro fantastic links btw!! all super nice cars. I would prob go see that 1st one if it was closer.
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they are rattle traps.
they leak water on the convertibles.
all in all, they are still a dodge. expect the quality of a dodge (good or bad-however you want to look at it )
they get hot as hell to drive during the summer from the exhaust.
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Viper's are a lot more of a "look @ me" car than ANY vette but they are simply not very reliable. Had a friend who owned one and it ALWAYS had SOMETHING wrong with it. Rattles, VERY expensive tires, almost too loud to talk while driving it, etc. There is a REASON you can pick them up cheaply. If it were me, I'd shoot for something a bit nicer and more exclusive like a Maserati Grand Turismo. THAT is a car you can show up to ANY event with and get noticed. You can also drop the lady in it and go to the opera (if that's your thing) or you can have a conversation with the passenger WHILE driving it up the windy mountain roads. Granted, service ain't cheap but you CAN buy an '08 for around the $60K mark used these days (Manhiem) which is pretty darned good price for a $130K car.
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slow?? really?? 11 sec 1/4's
yes. my little ole' turbo M3 literally walks away from them like a corvette would against a 323. they arent fast.
my buddies hennesy had no chance against my car. from a 40 roll i pulled 15+ car lengths on him...... i dont know if i have the video still or not, but the passenger in the viper is saying "are you going?!"..... and chris yells "YES!"...... all you can see is the m3 just yanking car lengths away..lol

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Viper's are a lot more of a "look @ me" car than ANY vette but they are simply not very reliable. Had a friend who owned one and it ALWAYS had SOMETHING wrong with it. Rattles, VERY expensive tires, almost too loud to talk while driving it, etc. There is a REASON you can pick them up cheaply. If it were me, I'd shoot for something a bit nicer and more exclusive like a Maserati Grand Turismo. THAT is a car you can show up to ANY event with and get noticed. You can also drop the lady in it and go to the opera (if that's your thing) or you can have a conversation with the passenger WHILE driving it up the windy mountain roads. Granted, service ain't cheap but you CAN buy an '08 for around the $60K mark used these days (Manhiem) which is pretty darned good price for a $130K car.


yes and no on your statement.
hennesy viper i drove was so loud your ears rang afterwards. ear plugs were practically a requirement.

i have done a LOT of work to a friends Gran turismo..... it is the poor mans ferarri lol....

cold air induction, programming, headers, full exhaust, coil over springs and lowered it, sway bars and some other crap i cant remember.....

the exhaust it has *THE* sweetest most aggressive hiss-snarly-pop-burble music i have ever heard out of the tail pipes with the valves open. i was in love with the exhaust.


forget the rest of the car though. rattled, maintenance was a fortune, tires cost a ton.... it wasnt a daily driver at all (if thats what your wanting) and IMO its tail end isnt very appealing.

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oil changes and whatnot- the engine needs love, it leaks oil, its tempermental about running and the type of fuel you use... always something to tinker on....


you gonna DIY or dealer maintain it?
that makes the difference.
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Viper's are a lot more of a "look @ me" car than ANY vette but they are simply not very reliable. Had a friend who owned one and it ALWAYS had SOMETHING wrong with it. Rattles, VERY expensive tires, almost too loud to talk while driving it, etc. There is a REASON you can pick them up cheaply. If it were me, I'd shoot for something a bit nicer and more exclusive like a Maserati Grand Turismo. THAT is a car you can show up to ANY event with and get noticed. You can also drop the lady in it and go to the opera (if that's your thing) or you can have a conversation with the passenger WHILE driving it up the windy mountain roads. Granted, service ain't cheap but you CAN buy an '08 for around the $60K mark used these days (Manhiem) which is pretty darned good price for a $130K car.
Im not looking for something that in 3 yrs will be worth 1/2, Im contemplating holding onto sort of as investment/toy. I havent taken a bath on the vette like I did with the 7's, and Im thinking the viper may hold its value.
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oil changes and whatnot- the engine needs love, it leaks oil, its tempermental about running and the type of fuel you use... always something to tinker on....


you gonna DIY or dealer maintain it?
that makes the difference.
Anything relatively easy i can myself, oil changes arent a problem. have you known anyone that had one>?
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yes. my little ole' turbo M3 literally walks away from them like a corvette would against a 323. they arent fast.
my buddies hennesy had no chance against my car. from a 40 roll i pulled 15+ car lengths on him...... i dont know if i have the video still or not, but the passenger in the viper is saying "are you going?!"..... and chris yells "YES!"...... all you can see is the m3 just yanking car lengths away..lol





yes and no on your statement.
hennesy viper i drove was so loud your ears rang afterwards. ear plugs were practically a requirement.

i have done a LOT of work to a friends Gran turismo..... it is the poor mans ferarri lol....

cold air induction, programming, headers, full exhaust, coil over springs and lowered it, sway bars and some other crap i cant remember.....

the exhaust it has *THE* sweetest most aggressive hiss-snarly-pop-burble music i have ever heard out of the tail pipes with the valves open. i was in love with the exhaust.


forget the rest of the car though. rattled, maintenance was a fortune, tires cost a ton.... it wasnt a daily driver at all (if thats what your wanting) and IMO its tail end isnt very appealing.
your little m3 did 15+ car lenghts from viper???? can your friend actually drive the viper???? or he couldn't shift and was missing gears???
can you provide dyno sheets on your little m3 turbo?? 0-62 times,1/4 mile etc...
im just curios about your m3..really i am what kind of modifications it has?you must have one bad axx m3 my friend
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Anything relatively easy i can myself, oil changes arent a problem. have you known anyone that had one>?
I do. Friend of mine had one it an 06 SRT-10 with 40K plus miles the camshaft went through the engine block.

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I do. Friend of mine had one it an 06 SRT-10 with 40K plus miles the camshaft went through the engine block.
ouch, is this common??

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Kinda what Im thinking, hate to part with my toy, my 5k wheels and 5k stereo but letsss see!!!! Im itching to either buy another car or swap one I have...
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Anything relatively easy i can myself, oil changes arent a problem. have you known anyone that had one>?
I have 3 friends/clients I know that have 5 maz's between them, quattroportes and gran sports. All of them are about the same when it comes to electronics and drivetrain. Don't get me wrong they are cool cars, but are a little fidgety .... Just like any pasta rocket.

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your little m3 did 15+ car lenghts from viper???? can your friend actually drive the viper???? or he couldn't shift and was missing gears???
can you provide dyno sheets on your little m3 turbo?? 0-62 times,1/4 mile etc...
im just curios about your m3..really i am what kind of modifications it has?you must have one bad axx m3 my friend
Well, considering two of the guys I used to work with had vipers, and both got railed by my car I don't think it was a fluke. Yes both can drive, the Hennessy viper owner can DEFINITELY drive. Lol no missed shifts. Of course I could prove power numbers on my car, but you aren't buying it, so what's the point?


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Im itching to either buy another car or swap one I have...
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I have 3 friends/clients I know that have 5 maz's between them, quattroportes and gran sports. All of them are about the same when it comes to electronics and drivetrain. Don't get me wrong they are cool cars, but are a little fidgety .... Just like any pasta rocket.



Well, considering two of the guys I used to work with had vipers, and both got railed by my car I don't think it was a fluke. Yes both can drive, the Hennessy viper owner can DEFINITELY drive. Lol no missed shifts. Of course I could prove power numbers on my car, but you aren't buying it, so what's the point?




You should buy my m3, save money and be faster than both cars
actually today i was working on friends m3 e36,he has active autowerke supercharger,no cats,uuc exhaust,lowered,short shifter,,,i was changing a bearing on supercharger..he said he had it dynoed at 335 rwhp...that baby was pulling when i took it for a spin and it left a big smile on my face
what kind of m3 you have e36 or e46?
so i asked him if he wants to sell it and he laughed,so instead he has sold me his 03 audi a4 1.8t with 100k miles for 5k cash
brought it home and all i had to do is change a vcg which was 22 bux..runs like a champ
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Had my friends 05 SRT-10 for a few weeks this summer, it has a Paxton supercharger and had only 16k miles. Looks and sounds AWESOME. Driving it is another experience. The whole inside is extremely hot from the exhaust and massive motor. Rattles like crazy. Very uncomfortable ride. Super fast, handles like crap. I personally hate cheaply built cars, the Viper is one of them. The whole interior is cheap, buttons from a neon. Ive had the car for almost a month, and simply didnt want to drive it. Felt that I had more fun and comfort on my motorcycle. Its a cool car to have parked in the garage, but driving it is far from pleasant. Used to own a Jeep SRT-8, and had a similar experience. If you want an exotic sports car, look no further than a 911 turbo, amazing car all around. Know many people who have one and daily drive it and love it.
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The int hot I can understand my vette gets hot too. I really have to go drive one and see how i like it.
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Go check one out, but I doubt it'll be to your liking. Very raw car, with insane amount of power, and not that great handling. You'll love looking at it in your garage, but Im pretty sure thats where the fun ends. I have not heard of too many problems with them, but also very few have any miles on them, as most dont get driven. If I was you and wanted a sports car, deff. give a 911 a shot. Otherwise just get a new 7
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