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E63 / E64 6 Series (2003 - 2013)
The E63/E64 BMW 6 Series builds on BMW's sporty heritage with aggressive lines and an incredible motor to back the design up. Available in coupe and convertible trims with a standard 4.8 liter engine producing 360 horsepower and 360 lb-ft of torque, the 6-series is a popular choice that exceeds expectations.

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Old 10-11-2012, 01:05 PM
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Battery Problem

I have 2008 650I and the car wouldnt start few days ago until i used jumper cables. When i would turn the car on the clock would ask me to reset it at first and then the car wouldnt start at all and the lights kept blinking.....when i got it home it says the clock needs to be reset due to battery disconnect. So my first question is it the battery casue its over 4 eyars old....and 2nd the battery is 850a should i get it cahnged at the dealership because i was warned if i do it my self or non authorized delearship the computer could break if some wires or fuse burns out and it also needs to be registered....is it true that without registration some components would not work? They quoted me $565 for the battery, labor and registering the battery reprogramming everything. Is it worth doing, i rather spend few hunder more then pay for it later.
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Old 10-11-2012, 02:31 PM
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It is almost certainly the battery and yes you do have to get it registered. Personally I think this is a crock and just a way for BMW to ensure that they get you into their service departments for battery changes, and then fleece you for a couple hundred extra dollars for the privelege by forcing you to register it.

Others on here have far more experience than I, and I'm sure have done it themselves, but they also know how to program/code the car. If you don't know how to do that then I think you are forced to let BMW do it, though $565 seems kind of high to me. Anyone else know if that quote seems right?
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Old 10-11-2012, 06:42 PM
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You can install any brand of battery then have a BMW indie mechanic program it for about $50. The OEM battery is massive though and a few guys here tried but could not find an aftermarket with the same specs - check out this thread. An Interstate with slightly lower specs than the OEM battery is only a few $ cheaper.

To save $ but still get OEM quality, you can order the OEM battery for ~ $187 for the led cell or $281 for the AGM at Tischer BMW. Then have the indie program it.

Installing an aftermarket battery will not damage the car. The line they fed you is just another example of the smoke and mirrors dealers feed the masses to scare them into paying crazy money for maintenance. Not registering the battery will shorten the life of the battery, it will not harm the car.
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Old 10-11-2012, 08:10 PM
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I recently purchased one for my 7 series for 125.00 from O'Reilly's. I do buy quite a few parts from them, so they usually cut me some slack. This was the proper battery as original equipment, with a 6 year warranty. The 1st 3 years was a free swap. Much better deal than BMW. While shopping for a battery, Autozone, Advance, Sears, & O'Reilley's carried the correct battery. I registered it myself, so labor was free!

It pays to shop price when possible on these cars!
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Old 10-12-2012, 05:34 AM
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So how do you register a battery?
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:16 AM
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There are some folks with M6's that have replaced the OEM battery with the Deka AGM Exact Fit battery. Made in USA and runs $209.

http://www.autobarn.net/eas9agm49.html

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Old 10-12-2012, 08:12 AM
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I recently purchased one for my 7 series for 125.00 from O'Reilly's. I do buy quite a few parts from them, so they usually cut me some slack. This was the proper battery as original equipment, with a 6 year warranty. The 1st 3 years was a free swap. Much better deal than BMW. While shopping for a battery, Autozone, Advance, Sears, & O'Reilley's carried the correct battery. I registered it myself, so labor was free!

It pays to shop price when possible on these cars!
How did you register your battery?
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Old 10-12-2012, 08:30 AM
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Not registering the battery will shorten the life of the battery.
Allegedly...

Tell that to my dealer installed and registered OEM battery that lasted 2.5 years!
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:25 PM
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How did you register your battery?
Here you are getting into another about these cars. This requires some programming and computer skills because of the software that you will have to get to do it. For our cars we use NCSExpert which is the BMW software you can use to code, diagnose and rest codes. There is a whole encyclopedia on this one.
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Old 10-12-2012, 01:47 PM
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Here you are getting into another about these cars. This requires some programming and computer skills because of the software that you will have to get to do it. For our cars we use NCSExpert which is the BMW software you can use to code, diagnose and rest codes. There is a whole encyclopedia on this one.
Ha ha! Just curious, I didn't figure I'd even tackle this one. Since you guys told me to check out the battery I'm just reading up on it
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Old 10-12-2012, 05:53 PM
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Here are links to the 2 best BMW coding websites. Coding the battery is very simple once you purchase a cable, & install the BMW software components. The 1st link explains the basic steps into getting started, & the 2nd link is for a forum with a wealth of experience. There is not a how to on using the software, so read up on very well before attempting anything. This will probably bore you to sleep, but shows that it's really not hard to work on these cars!

http://www.bmwcoding.com/

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...play.php?f=233
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Old 10-14-2012, 04:10 PM
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Allegedly...

Tell that to my dealer installed and registered OEM battery that lasted 2.5 years!
I would trade my freezing winters for your tropical climate and subsequent short battery life.

Maybe the dealer screwed up and did not program the proper type (AGM vs Lead Acid). I think this happened to Herb. BTW, lead acid does better in high temp climates, AGM does better in cold climates.
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Old 10-15-2012, 09:05 AM
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I spoke to a professional mechanic and he said that he could do it for me on the side, but if the batter was 750cca he could change it easier and program it in 30 min but if its 850 or 900 then its a bigger battery and it would take half of the day to program it. He also said he can do it himself but if something happends it could fry the computer and he will say sorry and that it rather then at the dealership they would cover the damages. I think becasue we have these expensive bmw's no need to cheap out and spend extra 200 bux to get it fixed professionally considering you dont know if the person on the side will do a good job or not.
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Old 10-15-2012, 11:29 AM
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I would trade my freezing winters for your tropical climate and subsequent short battery life.

Maybe the dealer screwed up and did not program the proper type (AGM vs Lead Acid). I think this happened to Herb. BTW, lead acid does better in high temp climates, AGM does better in cold climates.
Good point my man! I am with you on that, I would not trade my warm weather for anything.
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Old 10-15-2012, 12:52 PM
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I love going to south florida.....unfortunetly it be too far to drive...no sun tan for my car.
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Old 10-15-2012, 05:21 PM
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I spoke to a professional mechanic and he said that he could do it for me on the side, but if the batter was 750cca he could change it easier and program it in 30 min but if its 850 or 900 then its a bigger battery and it would take half of the day to program it. He also said he can do it himself but if something happends it could fry the computer and he will say sorry and that it rather then at the dealership they would cover the damages. I think becasue we have these expensive bmw's no need to cheap out and spend extra 200 bux to get it fixed professionally considering you dont know if the person on the side will do a good job or not.
It takes about 10 minutes on the batteries that have. 1 is a AGM in my 750, & a lead acid OEM battery in my 645. Off the top of my head, the AGM is 850 cca, & the lead acid battery is 900 cca. I think someone is trying to make some extra money?

Changing the battery takes around 10 minutes in the 645, compared to 35 minutes in my 750.
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Old 10-15-2012, 07:48 PM
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Here is a PDF file that I found a while back. This will help someone understand better what & how the registration is done.

Hope this helps!
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Old 10-16-2012, 12:43 PM
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Where can you purchase AGM battery though?
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Old 10-16-2012, 01:16 PM
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Any of your local auto parts stores should stock them, or get them in one day for you.
Here is one from O'reilly's for 159.99. This will show you all info you might need!

Super Start® Extreme AGM - Battery
Part Number: 49EXTAGM
Line: SSB

36 month free replacement; up to 84 months prorated warranty
UPC: 83996196049
12 Volt
Cold Cranking Amps: 850
Cranking Amps: 975
Reserve Capacity: 170 Minutes
Multiple Applications
850 CCA
- Battery Gasses Need To Be Vented To Outside
- Vehicle Computer System Must Be Reset
850 CCA
- Battery Gasses Need To Be Vented To Outside
- Vehicle Computer System Must Be Reset
- OE Used Various Size Batteries In Production
- Compare To Original Battery For Size And Correct Fit

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Cold Cranking Amps (CCA): 850 CCA
Cranking Amps (CA): 975 CA
DIN code: H8
Group Size (BCI): 49
Height (In): 7-1/2 Inch
Length (In): 13-15/16 Inch
Reserve Capacity (Min): 170 Minute
Voltage (V): 12 Volt
Width (In): 6-7/8 Inch
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