2014 vs 2013 pricing

There is a $1,650 discount (and possibly additional $750 for BMW lease/apr cash ends 4/30 <-- assume this isn't avail for 2014 models) for 2013 models over 2014 based on carsdirect.com pricing.

Has anyone gotten below invoice for 2013?
There doesn't seem to be any changes in 2014 besides shuffles in the options.

yes i got over 20% off on my MY13 35i compared to $500 over invoice on my '14 i ordered. I went with the '13...

Originally Posted by fb88

There is a $1,650 discount (and possibly additional $750 for BMW lease/apr cash ends 4/30 <-- assume this isn't avail for 2014 models) for 2013 models over 2014 based on carsdirect.com pricing.

Has anyone gotten below invoice for 2013?
There doesn't seem to be any changes in 2014 besides shuffles in the options.

I purchased a 2014 for 1400 under invoice after loyalty and college discounts.

I just ordered a 2014 for $1480 under invoice (that includes $750 Loyalty)

Might be a dumb question but, where are you finding the invoice costs for the vehicles and options?

Originally Posted by GvlBuckeye

Might be a dumb question but, where are you finding the invoice costs for the vehicles and options?

truecar.com or edmunds.com

Bmwconfig.com also good. Click on configurator.

Originally Posted by X1LA

I just ordered a 2014 for $1480 under invoice (that includes $750 Loyalty)

UNDER invoice? How did you manage to have them sell it to you at a loss?

Originally Posted by pbodifee

UNDER invoice? How did you manage to have them sell it to you at a loss?

I don't know how he received such a good price but invoice is not what the dealer pays. There are incentives and holdbacks to the dealer that reduce what they actually pay for the vehicle. A good price to pay is generally $500.00 over invoice less any incentives like loyalty discounts.

Hi guys,

Yes, dealer invoice is not the true cost of the car. I can't imagine any dealer selling at a loss.

It wasn't too hard to get the price I got. I sent email queries to about six local dealers and some of them came back to me with initial offers that were already below invoice. The one I settled on was -730 below invoice. Then adding the $750 loyalty cash got me down to -$1480.

I'd love to say that I'm a spectacular negotiator, but i think it's more the fact that I live in an area (Los Angeles) where there are a lot of high volume dealers and competition is stiff. It also helps to make sure the dealer knows you've done your homework.

I was picking up my Mini Countryman S from the service department and went to look at the X1, because my wife had one as a loaner last week. I was in and out in 45 minutes. It's the end of the month... I got a 2014 for 2100 below invoice and got the 750 loyalty cash too. I had to get my daughter from school so they cleaned up the X1 and delivered it to our house at 9:45 tonight and signed the paperwork in about 10 minutes. I have to say it was the quickest deal and I didn't have to haggle. I said I want my payments to be this and I want that much for my Mini... Vista BMW in Coconut Creek, FL... I almost forgot, it helped that I did a quick credit app on my phone while I was waiting in service, so I had a approval in hand already.

Originally Posted by X1LA

I'd love to say that I'm a spectacular negotiator, but i think it's more the fact that I live in an area (Los Angeles) where there are a lot of high volume dealers and competition is stiff. It also helps to make sure the dealer knows you've done your homework.

Ok, that makes sense. In the metro area where I live we have 5 dealers, but we have also lots of buyers with cash to burn (Asian millionaires) and driving around with a X5 or X6 with every imaginable option at 20mph is considered a cool status symbol. So a bloke who wants a X1 for a reasonable lease budget for family use is considered a fly on the sleeve...

Originally Posted by pbodifee

In the metro area where I live we have 5 dealers, but we have also lots of buyers with cash to burn (Asian millionaires) and driving around with a X5 or X6 with every imaginable option at 20mph is considered a cool status symbol.

I can't condone your racial profiling...but I understand.

General question: If you walk into a dealership after 5pm then trying to buy and drive on the same day, don't you still have to wait till your insurance company has the new car on file?

Originally Posted by nospam

I can't condone your racial profiling...but I understand.

This has nothing to do with racial profiling. It is a fact of life here in Vancouver: they 'park' their money here.

Originally Posted by fb88

General question: If you walk into a dealership after 5pm then trying to buy and drive on the same day, don't you still have to wait till your insurance company has the new car on file?

In Michigan you cannot take possession of a new car without having it being insured. I have a healthy skepticism about the post above. Never heard of anyone getting a price $2100.00 below invoice unless it was a year old car. My guess is if it happened he took a hit on the Mini trade.

FB88-

Generally you have 30 days to add your new car. But I usually call my insurance co while they're prepping the car, only take a few min to add it to the policy.

Originally Posted by pbodifee

This has nothing to do with racial profiling. It is a fact of life here in Vancouver: they 'park' their money here.

I too found your post to be at the least insensitive. This one is not much better.

Originally Posted by nospam

I can't condone your racial profiling...but I understand.

Originally Posted by Michael Schott

I too found your post to be at the least insensitive. This one is not much better.

You guys are reading too much into pbodifee's posts. Facts are facts. Here is a sample from the Seattle area: http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...scrash16m.html . Although the death of the woman is not germane, the general observation (reckless behavior, money, youth) of Asian is not.

And don't tell me I'm insensitive - my wife is Chinese-American.

Originally Posted by floydarogers

You guys are reading too much into pbodifee's posts. Facts are facts. Here is a sample from the Seattle area: http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...scrash16m.html . Although the death of the woman is not germane, the general observation (reckless behavior, money, youth) of Asian is not.

And don't tell me I'm insensitive - my wife is Chinese-American.

Spend a week on Metro Vancouver streets and you will understand what I wrote.
Then go visit a BMW dealer here and find out there is hardly a willingness to haggle. That was my point.

Originally Posted by floydarogers

You guys are reading too much into pbodifee's posts. Facts are facts. Here is a sample from the Seattle area: http://seattletimes.com/html/localne...scrash16m.html . Although the death of the woman is not germane, the general observation (reckless behavior, money, youth) of Asian is not.

And don't tell me I'm insensitive - my wife is Chinese-American.

You are insensitive.

What does reckless behavior, money, & youth have to do with being Asian?

The original comment was regarding Asians driving luxury cars at 1/2 of the speed limit, not recklessly speeding.

Originally Posted by nospam

You are insensitive.

What does reckless behavior, money, & youth have to do with being Asian?

The original comment was regarding Asians driving luxury cars at 1/2 of the speed limit, not recklessly speeding.

Ok guys stop it. The original comment was left out in the quote. It is about rich Asians spending lots on cars here in Vancouver. The BMWs are actually owned by the least rich millionaires

Originally Posted by Michael Schott

In Michigan you cannot take possession of a new car without having it being insured. I have a healthy skepticism about the post above. Never heard of anyone getting a price $2100.00 below invoice unless it was a year old car. My guess is if it happened he took a hit on the Mini trade.

To clarify... Walk into your dealer on the last day of the month and it's all about the number of units they sold for the month. Vista claims to be the largest BMW dealer in the US... It's all about the numbers for them. And we are repeat buyers, my wife drives a 128. It's all about timing. When e bought the 128, it was the last day in August '12 and BMW was pushing demos out the door... 5K miles = 6K off msrp. There was a big deal about it because BMW wanted to make sure they took top Luxury brand spot

In Florida you have 30 days to transfer insurance to a replacement car. I called my ins co. today to transfer coverage and the wouldn't come up yet in the system. The build date is 03/13

In any case, I love Mini's and BMW's... The way they drive, feel and safe...

Last day in a quarter will always be best deal day for one off the lot.


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Originally Posted by chefkahn

To clarify... Walk into your dealer on the last day of the month and it's all about the number of units they sold for the month. Vista claims to be the largest BMW dealer in the US... It's all about the numbers for them. And we are repeat buyers, my wife drives a 128. It's all about timing. When e bought the 128, it was the last day in August '12 and BMW was pushing demos out the door... 5K miles = 6K off msrp. There was a big deal about it because BMW wanted to make sure they took top Luxury brand spot

In Florida you have 30 days to transfer insurance to a replacement car. I called my ins co. today to transfer coverage and the wouldn't come up yet in the system. The build date is 03/13

In any case, I love Mini's and BMW's... The way they drive, feel and safe...

Thank you for the clarification. Congrats on the new X1.