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Old 07-04-2004, 11:01 AM
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Wait a minute, fellas...Time out for a second here.

No discussions about Spoonface peeling out first before Goatee-face during the warm-up lap? If there is a 15sec disqualification for Forkface running from the grid back to the garage, there has got to be a regulation for what happened during the beginning of the warm-up lap.

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Old 07-04-2004, 11:08 AM
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Sure. Who is goatee-face?


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Old 07-04-2004, 11:10 AM
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Sure. Who is goatee-face?


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Old 07-04-2004, 11:10 AM
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Yes, next time Michael won't be allowed to stop more than three times
So, it is absolutely alright for someone to peel out and lead the pack for a while during the warm-up lap? I need to confirm that cos I don't want to make a stupid mistake when I am a F1 driver.
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Old 07-04-2004, 11:12 AM
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IMHO, then that is a lame ass goatee.

This is a goatee:




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Old 07-04-2004, 11:13 AM
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I need to confirm that cos I don't want to make a stupid mistake when I am a F1 driver.
That is an extremely good idea.


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Old 07-04-2004, 11:15 AM
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It is also worth noting that if you are Spoonface, the actual rules do not really have to apply. It sort of depends on what works best ...

No point in even trying to deny it, Alex.


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Old 07-04-2004, 11:27 AM
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It is also worth noting that if you are Spoonface, the actual rules do not really have to apply. It sort of depends on what works best ...

No point in even trying to deny it, Alex.


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Sure, you gotta be The King and be so good that even with 4 stops, you must be capable of winning the race. If you are the king, no rule will apply.

In fact, Michael is just an untalented driver, who happens to be in a crappy car. It's all coincidence, pure luck. It's actually a wonder how this guy is winning.
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Old 07-04-2004, 11:31 AM
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I guess you just started watching Formula One for the first time about three months ago ...

Or then you have a V E R Y short memory.

Interesting sarcasm though!


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Old 07-04-2004, 11:47 AM
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Starting Procedures, Article 149, PDF here. Page 22.

"...When the green lights are illuminated, the cars will begin the formation lap with the pole position driver leading..."

"During the formation lap practice starts are forbidden and the formation must be kept as tight as possible. Overtaking during the formation lap is only permitted if a car is delayed when leaving its grid position and cars behind cannot avoid passing it without unduly delaying the remainder of the field. In this case, drivers may only overtake to re-establish the original starting order."

So, I guess the question is: Was MiniGoatee-face slow in pulling off the grid? So slow that the Spoonface didn't realize he was leading the pack until between Turn 2 and 3? Who has a video clip of that anyway?

Punishable by:

"54) The stewards may impose any one of three penalties on any driver involved in an Incident :
a) A drive-through penalty. The driver must enter the pit lane and re-join the race without stopping ;
b) A ten second time penalty. The driver must enter the pit lane, stop at his pit for at least ten seconds and then re-join the race."


If Forkface had done that, I have a 98% confidence level that he will get a spanking by the stewarts.
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Old 07-04-2004, 11:52 AM
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Old 07-04-2004, 12:00 PM
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What are you trying to tell us, Vince ?

So, you are the only one who noticed it, but other drivers, the teams, their managers, journalists didn't notice anything ?

Anyway, as Patrick mentioned, FIA rules don't apply for Michael Schumacher. But I don't know why.
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Old 07-04-2004, 12:22 PM
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Actually all the commentators for Speed commented that Spoonface's "pass" on the formation lap is illegal and should be penalized. Of course nothing came of it.
What about the teams, who are watching every bit sh-it on their monitors ? Did they raise an objection ?
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Old 07-04-2004, 12:34 PM
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IMHO, then that is a lame ass goatee.

It's not a goatee. It's a soul patch. He shaved it off a few races ago. He looks a hell of a lot better without it. Now if Trulli would just lose the ponytail...
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Old 07-04-2004, 12:36 PM
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I just got back from watching the... "race." Well, F1 is officially bullsh***********it. What's the point in watching a series where one team can do whatever it wants without getting penalized?

If the rules don't apply to Ferrari, there's no point in them even racing. I'm disinclined to watch any more.
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Old 07-04-2004, 12:46 PM
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Anyway, as Patrick mentioned, FIA rules don't apply for Michael Schumacher. But I don't know why.
You really have been watching some other version of Formula One for the last decade; is the programming soooooooo different in Germany? Don't they tell you about the ridiculous, none sense, bullsh!t that constantly surrounds Spoonface? Or do you guys still just deny everything "negative"?

I can only image what it is like watching RAI UNO's telecast of Formula One.



I was humming the German National Anthem outloud this evening (it is stuck in my head after Spoonface's nine millionth record breaking victory ...) and my wife got so annoyed that she threw a shoe (LMAO) at me!

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Old 07-04-2004, 12:48 PM
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"During the formation lap practice starts are forbidden and the formation must be kept as tight as possible. Overtaking during the formation lap is only permitted if a car is delayed when leaving its grid position and cars behind cannot avoid passing it without unduly delaying the remainder of the field, or if your name starts with an M and ends with an S and you're in a red car."
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Old 07-04-2004, 12:51 PM
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I think Michael forgot he wasn't on the pole and just nailed it, then backed off. It was a virtuoso performance for MS for sure, but he should have been penalized.

I'm sure Williams will improve. They didn't get enough time with the new aero stuff and the car must have been hard to drive. I haven't read the quotes yet. I noticed that Kimi and David were trying to cruise to the end and doing 1:18's and JPM kept up the 1:16's, so they had to pick up the pace. Their engine has survived a few races, but they are still a question mark.
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Old 07-04-2004, 12:51 PM
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"During the formation lap practice starts are forbidden and the formation must be kept as tight as possible. Overtaking during the formation lap is only permitted if a car is delayed when leaving its grid position and cars behind cannot avoid passing it without unduly delaying the remainder of the field, or if your name starts with an M and ends with an S and you're in a red car."
I guess that rule does not really apply to uh, those Toyota drivers then?

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Old 07-04-2004, 12:52 PM
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If you don't like it, don't watch it !
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Old 07-04-2004, 01:03 PM
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If you don't like it, don't watch it !
Holy poop Alex, in that case, soon there will only be you and the boss of FIAT watching then!

j/k ...

But I do wonder how you can watch the same stuff as the rest of the world and yet never see any fault in your favorite team's #1 driver. And or never be willing to even mention any of these serious transgressions that have littered his career. Do you have even 1 comment about that? If so, I would love to hear it.

Right.

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Old 07-04-2004, 01:11 PM
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I have no problem with it

And hat off to Ferrari and his team for tricking and cheating the whole world in front of the cameras. Gotta respect that.
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What about the teams, who are watching every bit sh-it on their monitors ? Did they raise an objection ?
Do we know if they did or not?

Regardless, it's the job of the stewards to monitor the race, not to sit around and pick their noses until a team slips them a note.
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Old 07-04-2004, 01:12 PM
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Do we know if they did or not?
I don't know. If they didn't, why ?
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