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F10 / F11 (2011 - 2016)
The sixth generation of the BMW 5 Series Sedan (F10) was produced from 2011 - 2016 with LCI updates arriving in 2014. In the US BMW offered a hatchback 5 Series Gran Truismo (F07) and the rest of the world also go a Station Wagon/Touring version F11.

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Old 04-14-2016, 01:17 PM
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Base model 528i expensive to maintain?

I have a 2016 528i with nav on loan while my 2011 328i is at the dealer having a gasket replaced.

I really like this car, a lot more than I thought I would. The ride is quiet and composed and the car has plenty of power for a 5 series.

I'd like to pick up a final model year 528i with a CPO in a couple of years. Are they really more expensive than a 3 series to maintain and own if it's a base model? My 3 series has generally been reliable and easy to maintain, nothing like the crazy horror stories you read on here about BMWs.
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Mechanically the 528 is similar to the 328 so little change in maintenance. The F10s do have more technology so depending on the options you could have some issues but my understanding is the later models are quite reliable. I hope so as I just bought a 2016 528ixdrive. Good luck. So far I am very happy with our car. Very comfortable and makes a great road trip car.
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Mechanically the 528 is similar to the 328 so little change in maintenance. The F10s do have more technology so depending on the options you could have some issues but my understanding is the later models are quite reliable. I hope so as I just bought a 2016 528ixdrive. Good luck. So far I am very happy with our car. Very comfortable and makes a great road trip car.
That is what I figured, this one was fairly basic but I love it! It's a little more tolerable than my 328i M sport, better MPGs as well.

What other tech besides power sunroof shade and power steering wheel adjustments?
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Old 04-15-2016, 05:45 AM
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What other tech besides power sunroof shade and power steering wheel adjustments?
Power parking brake and motorized trunk lid are two more I can think of.
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Old 04-15-2016, 06:23 AM
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Power parking brake and motorized trunk lid are two more I can think of.
And power headrests, but these are fairly easy to replace. I'm more worried about major engine problems and the like. I won't be getting adaptive suspensions or soft closing doors, mainly just the basics since BMW throws in all of the options I'd have to pay extra for on a 3.

On another note, the turbo 4 leaves a LOT of room to work on the engine! If I took the fan shroud and intake off I could do anything I needed to on that engine.
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Old 04-15-2016, 06:44 AM
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^^^ Do you mean active steering? Adaptive suspension is a great feature. I think that is a must have. It comes standard with the late models anyway.
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I just came from a 328i coupe with sport and it was not a problem at all.
That said, the engines are the same as now offered in the 2, the N20 and N55. Mechanically your not looking at much difference.

I have an Msport and funny thing about this car (Pre LCI) the steering is very light at lower speed making it a very comfortable drive but not much fun at those pedestrian MPH.
Once you wake her up one expects more body roll on curves, but she stays very flat. Very composed. Push her hard she digs in.

I do miss more than I thought the driving dynamics of the coupe but I am very pleased with the comfort and additional amenities of my F10.
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I just came from a 328i coupe with sport and it was not a problem at all.
That said, the engines are the same as now offered in the 2, the N20 and N55. Mechanically your not looking at much difference.

I have an Msport and funny thing about this car (Pre LCI) the steering is very light at lower speed making it a very comfortable drive but not much fun at those pedestrian MPH.
Once you wake her up one expects more body roll on curves, but she stays very flat. Very composed. Push her hard she digs in.

I do miss more than I thought the driving dynamics of the coupe but I am very pleased with the comfort and additional amenities of my F10.
I could say much the same, having moved from an E92 (2008) to F10 (2013). Didn't expect to like the 4-cylinder engine, but I do, and my fuel consumption is 25% less! I've had this car since it was new, zero problems with mechanical, electronics, anything after 24K miles.
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^^^ Do you mean active steering? Adaptive suspension is a great feature. I think that is a must have. It comes standard with the late models anyway.
Woah what? It comes standard on the 2016 5 series? How do I change the suspension? Sounds expensive to replace as well...
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My "strippy" base model has 52K miles on it, and it has been problem free.

The dealership did a few maintenance campaign items (oil filter housing/gaskets; coolant thermostat), but otherwise I've only had the routine consumables replaced including brake pads.

I do get more steering resistance (less assist) on the highway after making several hours' highway drive, but I have not further investigated, as I do this infrequently. Otherwise the car is a champ. I miss the smooth power delivery of the in-line 6 and tight handling of my old E39, and the clatter of the 4 is occasionally distracting (esp. when cold). But the car has more power, is faster, handles predictably when pushed, and gets incredible gas mileage -- so one feels a bit foolish complaining. A switch to Pirelli Cinturato P7 tires in place of the horrible run-flats has made a huge, huge difference in noise and ride, although they do have a GT vs high performance character (fine for my boring suburban existence).

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...motorized trunk lid...
...but not on the base model. No adaptive suspension, either.
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...but not on the base model. No adaptive suspension, either.
The one I am driving has both of these options and it's a base model 528i. MY 2016 as well.
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Woah what? It comes standard on the 2016 5 series? How do I change the suspension? Sounds expensive to replace as well...
If I'm not mistaken from 2012 and newer models. Switch it to sports mode (the button left of the gear shift). The right terminology is active dampers.
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If I'm not mistaken from 2012 and newer models. Switch it to sports mode (the button left of the gear shift). The right terminology is active dampers.
I don't really feel a difference to be honest.

It's so quiet, I can't feel the engine running. On the other hand, my 3 series just might need new motor mounts...
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Active/Adjustable suspension is NOT standard on any 5 series. It's not even available on a 528 as an option. On 535's and 550's, it's a $3500 option - the Dynamic Handling Package (aka DHP).

You may be thinking of the Sport/Comfort mode switch next to the shifter, which did become standard maybe in 2012. However, unless you paid for the adjustable suspension, that doesn't change your suspension obviously. It will only change the throttle response, auto transmission shift points, and on some cars supposedly the steering weight (but not my 2013 RWD M Sport).

See the Sticky threat at the top for the Ordering and Pricing guides for all models. Lists all the features available per model.
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Compared to a base 328, a base 2016 528 will add:
-power seats
-navigation
-auto dimming mirrors.
-sunroof
-xenon lights

So not really that much more that can go wrong. I suspect insurance will be higher since it's a higher priced car. Also the doors and hood are made of aluminum which tends to be more expensive to repair in an accident. I suspect that some F10 suspension parts might be costlier to replace than similar pieces on an F30 or e90 but I'd have to look it up to confirm. The F10 uses a wishbone suspension vs a macpherson strut arrangement upfront. I believe wishbone type suspensions are known to go through bushings at a faster rate

All BMWs now have the driving mode selector. That alone does not mean the car you are driving is equipped with an adjustable suspenion. And atleast as of 2014, an adjustable suspension was not even an option on the 528 (unless someone managed to special order it from the factory which is definitley not the case on a service loaner).

The motorized trunk lid is an option. It used to be part of the premium pkg but as of 2016 I believe it can be ordered a la carte for $350. And for a few months it was a "mandatory option" for some reason. So that might explain why your base 528 had it.
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