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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 10-09-2012, 07:00 PM
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What would be the best way about fixing my noisy vanos. Dr.vanos has replacement options for the whole vanos with their upgraded seals. Or I could do just besian seals. Have any of you guys just had a good indy do it for you?

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Old 10-11-2012, 06:09 AM
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I chose the beisan refresh and anti rattle kit and did it myself. Not very difficult. Although I think Dr. Vanos is a very good option, I have heard that their replacement vanos has the same seals as the original which would lead to the same issue down the road.
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Old 10-12-2012, 12:25 AM
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I had a noisy vanos, but it went away after using lucas heavy duty oil stabilizer. Over a year now, still no noises or issues. Just a thought.
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Old 10-12-2012, 06:15 AM
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How many miles, and what engine do you have?

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Old 10-13-2012, 12:39 AM
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'98 328i. Issue started at around 125k miles, I put up with it until about 135k when I added the Lucas. Now she's at 155k and still nice and quiet.
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Old 10-13-2012, 06:45 AM
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Ill try that, I would to do the vanos fix on my E36 because ill probably have to do it on my E46 sometime down the road.

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Old 10-14-2012, 10:21 AM
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Bimmer 765, let us know how the Lucas stabilizer worked for you. Maybe that stuff has the right things to restore the seals ? Would save a lot of work if so - probably would want to throw some in on higher mileage engines just a preventative if it works that well. I'm generally suspicious of these overhauls in a bottle but for seals a proper softening agent might just work. Anyone else tried this ?
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Old 10-14-2012, 11:25 AM
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Ill let you all know, since I have 183k miles.

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Old 10-19-2012, 08:51 AM
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We use Lucas quite a bit in the Rotary engines. I don't think it's so much about "restoring" or "swelling" the seals. I think it has more to do with its tendency to "crawl" up to areas that usually don't get very good lubrication.
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Old 10-19-2012, 11:24 AM
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Well when I get my replacement radiator back on ill drain a couple quarts of oil out and pour this in. I picked up the synthetic type of lucas so we'll see how it goes.

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Old 10-24-2012, 10:37 AM
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IF you are doing the vanos...

Go besian.

Dr Vanos.. not so much.
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Old 10-29-2012, 05:31 PM
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Whats wrong with the Dr?

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Old 10-29-2012, 05:53 PM
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Nothing other than it uses the same seals as factory, which will just go bad eventually like the originals did.
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Old 10-29-2012, 06:31 PM
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:57 PM
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Decided to change my vanos seals and no I have a problem. With mine being an automatic there is no room to get my hand up to the hole where the locking pin goes in. I have it at TDC and I'm ready to put the cam locks on. Would I be ok this way and make sure Im still at TDC before I put it back together.

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The hole for the lock pin is in the FRONT, through the engine flange that connects to the transmission bellhousing. It's just below the starter.
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Old 11-21-2012, 05:36 PM
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I can see it from above, but with transmission color lines in the way its almost impossible to get to.

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Old 11-21-2012, 05:41 PM
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You really need the pin in place. I would never trust the engine to stay exactly at TDC while working on something as critical as the cams/VANOS. Figure out a way to snake that pin in there.
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Well I was able to get it done without putting the locking pin in. Put it all back together and its way more quieter than it used to be. I still hear a little chain slop but that would be taken care of if I did the diaphragm spring. Still happy with the results.

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Well its been about two months since I did besian kit and now the noise is starting to come back. I even put in a quart of the lucas oil treatment and it still makes a lot of noise. This happen to anyone?

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