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Old 05-08-2017, 02:21 PM
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X5 E70 2013 Wheel and Tire upgrade

Hi All,

I've been searching this forum but did not come upon any recent threads on this topic. We recently got an amazing deal on a 2013 E70 Xdrive 35i. It did however come with the stock wheels and 18 inch run flats.

I'm looking to upgrade to a non staggered 20 inch set with something like Beyern, Rohana, or Fortigate wheels. The research I've done suggests no need to have spacers or fender flares.

My only real concern would be if the added weight will bog down this model? It's not like we drive fast but I had read that might be an issue?

Any help or thoughts in this area would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 05-08-2017, 02:41 PM
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The added weight of the wheels and tires?
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Old 05-08-2017, 02:59 PM
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I'm still researching exact specs but I recall reading on a thread the Xdrive 35i engine might be bogged down by a larger tire set. Overall I have not read that's the case but want to ask around. Now that I really think about it the weight should not be more than a few pounds and likely even less some of the wheels I'm looking at.
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Old 05-08-2017, 03:32 PM
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xDrive requires the circumference of tires to be closely matched. A pair larger than the other will toast your transfer case in short order.
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Old 05-08-2017, 04:12 PM
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Ahh man that sucks. I had not heard this. Thank you for the information.
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Old 05-08-2017, 04:16 PM
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I have a 2010 bmw x5 with staggered 20. Front are 255, rears are 315 if I remember correctly.

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Old 05-08-2017, 04:43 PM
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Ahh man that sucks. I had not heard this. Thank you for the information.
Just use the OEM sizes for staggered setups. Tire rack has good data.
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:16 PM
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Thanks guys! I'll do some research then have a chat with the dealer. I really should have thought this out in advance but I was so excited about the deal we got I pulled the trigger
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:18 PM
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You can still get new wheels and tires, just make sure all four tires have the same circumference and better yet match that of the 18's you currently have.

Unless the 18's are making you lose sleep at night or causing you extreme inferiority complex, just hang on to them. 20's will weigh more and more unsprung weight at the corners means theengine has to work harder to spin the wheels, translating to higher fuel consumption. Further, the heavier weight of the wheel and tire combo puts more stress on already failure prone BMW rubber suspension parts meaning earlier failure, and finally your cost per equivalent tire will increase.
Since the X5 is never ever ever going to be a serious contender as a sports car and I highly doubt you'll be autocrossing it or taking it to the track and expect to beat real cars, learn to love what you bought.
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:36 PM
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Haha! ok FredoinSF. Never said I was trying to race or drive like a sports car. I do love he vehicle and I love the price a got. I just prefer the look of a larger wheel and lower profile tire. I can live with an 18 inch wheel / tire set just fine. If I want a high performing sports car I'll buy one. I got it like that :-)

Thank you for the information in your post.
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Old 05-08-2017, 05:57 PM
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If the set isn't staggered you'll be fine, other than the added weight which will be a downgrade in performance. But to be honest it will be marginal and probably not noticeable.
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Old 05-08-2017, 08:37 PM
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Do you need snow/all season tires?
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Oh god its fine, the car comes with them factory. use the stock sizes and you will be more than fine. you wont notice anything even if there alot heavier. stock size i think is 275-40-20 and 315-35-20. Or just use the 275 all around.
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Old 05-09-2017, 07:22 AM
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^^^ what he said. There is no "danger" of something going wrong by upgrading to factory 20" staggered size. Find a nice set of style 214 wheels, Conti dws06 tires and you should be good to go.
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Old 05-09-2017, 02:32 PM
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Hi All,

I've been searching this forum but did not come upon any recent threads on this topic. We recently got an amazing deal on a 2013 E70 Xdrive 35i. It did however come with the stock wheels and 18 inch run flats.

I'm looking to upgrade to a non staggered 20 inch set with something like Beyern, Rohana, or Fortigate wheels. The research I've done suggests no need to have spacers or fender flares.

My only real concern would be if the added weight will bog down this model? It's not like we drive fast but I had read that might be an issue?

Any help or thoughts in this area would be greatly appreciated.
Stagger them to the factory size and don't look back. Enjoy the new look. You'll wish you did it sooner. There will be zero difference "felt" in performance if you truly drive under normal conditions. Not sure about the spacers and flares but likely will need them. Again, totally worth the effort and work put in to make your e70 look mean.
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Old 05-09-2017, 02:57 PM
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Hi All,

I've been searching this forum but did not come upon any recent threads on this topic. We recently got an amazing deal on a 2013 E70 Xdrive 35i. It did however come with the stock wheels and 18 inch run flats.

I'm looking to upgrade to a non staggered 20 inch set with something like Beyern, Rohana, or Fortigate wheels. The research I've done suggests no need to have spacers or fender flares.

My only real concern would be if the added weight will bog down this model? It's not like we drive fast but I had read that might be an issue?

Any help or thoughts in this area would be greatly appreciated.
Just get yourself some stock 214's. Keep it stock, be happy Damn tires are wider that ones on my vette.
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Just get yourself some stock 214's. Keep it stock, be happy Damn tires are wider that ones on my vette.
DSW's ?
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DSW's ?
Yes, DSW's but not 06's. Very happy with the change from the stock run flats. These coupled with an alignment, feels like a different vehicle. 275/40ZR/20 fronts (11" w) and 315/35ZR/20 rears (12" w). Handles great, no tracking, and much smoother ride. Fairly decent in the snow for such wide tires, although I still swap them out with an extra set of 20's I have with Blizzaks when we get any real accumulation.
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Old 05-12-2017, 11:05 AM
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Thanks all for the feedback!
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First off, which 18s do you have? Style 209 or 210?

According to RealOEM, the 209s weigh in at 27.8lbs each while the 210s are heavier at 30.3lbs.

As for tire weight, TireRack lists the weight for each tire they sell, click on the 'compare' option after defining the tire size to see the tire weight. In 255/55/R18, the GoodYear Eagle Runflats are 41lbs each, but the Continental DWS06 all-season goflats are 30lbs each. If you plan to go 20", you could offset the increase in wheel weight by going with goflat tires.

You can Google a tire size calculator find the +1" or +2" equivalent for 255/55/R18s. From what I can tell, the 255/55/R18s come in at a 29" diameter, so the 20" rim equivalent is either 255/45R20 on a 20x10 rim or 285/40/R20 on a 20x11 wheel. There are also wheel offsets; how deep or flush the wheels sits in the wheel well.

I don't mind aftermarket rims, but the majority here do prefer OE wheels.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:26 AM
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Still need to add the wheel arch extensions but this is what its looking like right now.
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