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Old 10-14-2012, 11:23 AM
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I'm looking to buy a 04 right now and will only get a 3.0. I work on these cars for a lot of people and although th 4.4 is fun the costs are a significant amount higher. The 3.0 is the same as any other BMW with that motor. Oil and coolant leaks can be a significant repair on the V8's while most of these issues can be handled by a competent DIY on the 3.0. Get a 3.0 with plane jane suspension and no pano roof if you want to keep the repair costs down. Find one with less than 100k and have the trans serviced with OEM fluid. The GM gearboxes are known week points so a fluid change as early as possible is a must. Like I said, I work on these and I won't own the V8 even though I have the tools and skill. There is lots of info on the web so do a your homework. Have I mentioned to get a 3.0?
Are you saying the 4.4 has more problems than the 3.0? Or are you saying the 4.4 is too difficult for you to work on as it takes up more of the engine bay?
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Old 10-14-2012, 12:25 PM
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A little of both I guess. The 4.4 just has more parts to fail. Twice the number of VANOS components is one problem. As an example, a common issue are leaks from the valve cover gasket. Pretty straight forward on the 6 but due the design of the 8 it is very tight and the drivers side valve cover is a mother as the steering shaft limits access. The v8 has the vally pan coolant issue which is a major repair that the 3.0 does not. Can you say water cooled alternator? Big bucks. I just know I have a choice and in the long run the v8 will cost more to maintain. I called a dealer once to get price quotes on the VC gasket job for both motors. The 6 was 700 and the 8 was about 1200. Stupid high even for a dealer. All of them have issues with cv boots failing early and suspension bushings. My seat of the pants oppinion is that the 4.4 only exasperates this wear. Also, the v8 loves to eat tires and at the larger sizes these trucks came with it can add up. The fueel mileage might not be bad for the 8 but at the cost of maintenance I'll take the 3.0. The power is nice but in the end you will grow used to that and want more anyway...I have a suoercharged M3 and still want more.

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Old 10-14-2012, 03:28 PM
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U'r right Sunny, but right now I only have one car left which is my 09' 650i. Keep running it around for groceries and job apply are really hurt me with the economic situation right now. Maybe I'll just wait, after the election car price probably gonna drop. I just need an all-in-one car for these rainny days. thanks for your advises sunny.
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Old 10-15-2012, 06:28 AM
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If you can afford $1500 per annum for servicing alone, you can afford to drive an x5.
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Old 10-16-2012, 05:14 PM
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That's probably indy price not dealer price right?
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:34 PM
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No, it's Dealer price. On average, I spend $1000 on parts including service per annum to keep my 2006 x5 e53 3.0i going, sometimes it can be $1500 if more work is needed to cover additional minor problems. To replace sunroof would cost $2800Au, brake pads front and rear $700Au, gearbox $5000 and on onboard computer $12000! These are all authorised BMW dealership quotes in Australia which would equate to approximately the same in USA, though in USA, since x5s are made in this country, you will pay slightly less.

I only ever take my car to an authorised BMW dealership as my car is still under extended warranty. When it expires, it will be off to the indies!
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Old 10-16-2012, 07:56 PM
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My experience buying a X5 that has nothing to do with the quality of the vehicle but that here in Canada the resale of the sav is high so.. people are fak'in it. Rolled back odometers and unreported accidents. A good TELL is the drives seat , beat and worn will let you know the milage is high. As for accidents I like to take the car for a test drive then a hand wash, upclose and personal you won't miss a scratch.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:10 PM
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Would a 2001 X5 with 154,000 miles be considered too old and too many miles?
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:43 PM
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transmission would be the biggest concern. Might have been replaced at that mileage though.
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Old 10-16-2012, 08:50 PM
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transmission would be the biggest concern. Might have been replaced at that mileage though.
Well basically right now I'm debating between two vehicles:

2001 X5, 154K miles, nav. system and all option but sports package and with int. and ext. colors that I really like - ~11k with taxes, reg. everything.

2005 X3, 94K miles, all options except headlight cleaners and sports package with ext. color that I like but tan/black two ton interior that might take some getting used to (nothing horrible; I'm just a fan of the full black int.) - $13,450 with taxes, reg. everything.


Both vehicles have only had two previous owners. No accidents for either. The X3, however, has awesome upkeep records.

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Old 10-18-2012, 07:35 AM
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I believe x5s are built to just keep going, provided they have regular service by authorised mechanics, and there has been no history of hard driving. My friend has had an x3 2.0d for 7 years now and the car has clocked 218000kms. The only big problem he has experienced so far was the radiator which had to be replaced. This car has taken him everywhere and still goes like a dream, no oil leaks, no computer or transmission problems, and he tows a small caravan quite often. My x5 3.0i 2006 has been a joy for 4 yrs and have had only minor problems.
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Old 10-18-2012, 02:26 PM
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What is the average dealer cost to rebuilt a tranmission? Because basically all 2001 X5 E53 now have more than 100,000 miles. And after transmission rebuilt how long will it last? Probably not as long as OEM one right?
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Old 10-19-2012, 08:47 AM
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What is the average dealer cost to rebuilt a tranmission? Because basically all 2001 X5 E53 now have more than 100,000 miles. And after transmission rebuilt how long will it last? Probably not as long as OEM one right?
Most places, most of the time will replace the transmission instead of rebuilding it. Few places have the expertise to rebuild them. As to the cost it varies depending on where you take it. Dealers being the most expensive as they're likely to replace it with a brand new, instead of rebuilt, unit.
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Old 10-19-2012, 09:25 AM
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+1. Will need to most likely find a good independent that does German trans work. When I was at the dealer we changed a lot of transmissions. We would open them up at low miles under warr and repair For a long time there were not parts for these boxes but I believe that has changed. When I need mine rebuilt I'll do it myself. When I was at the dealer we would open them up and repair the issue at low miles under warr but the older ones just got a reman box from the factory.
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Old 10-27-2012, 02:32 PM
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HOLLY mother of BMWs...! So your all saying that the trans will need rebuilt/replaced somewhere after 100K miles on the this no matter 4.4L 0r 3.0L??????
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Old 10-27-2012, 03:08 PM
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HOLLY mother of BMWs...! So your all saying that the trans will need rebuilt/replaced somewhere after 100K miles on the this no matter 4.4L 0r 3.0L??????
I am making no such claim (unless by "after 100K miles" you're including any mileage past 100K miles).

As for 4.4 versus 3.0 I have seen no evidence supporting an increased failure rate of the 4.4 transmission than those in the 3.0. But I don't have a lot of direct experience...just haven't seen it as an issue on the forums I read.
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:02 PM
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x5 are nice

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I am thinking about buying either an X3 or X5. I already own a 3 Series E46. I would really appreciate any advice you all can give me.

Are there any common problems the X5s seem to have (window regulators, water pump, etc.??

Are there any specific problems the X series might have that other BMW models do not?

What is typically considered low/avg./high mileage for an X5?

How does the X3 differ from the X5?

Anything else you can provide would be appreciated!!!
common problems on the X5s: Window regulators. Electric components, such as onboard computer, rear lights, readio pixels and front suspension:lower/upper control arms and links. I would still buy another one anyways. and yes, they are expensive to fix. good luck
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Old 10-31-2012, 01:12 PM
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HOLLY mother of BMWs...! So your all saying that the trans will need rebuilt/replaced somewhere after 100K miles on the this no matter 4.4L 0r 3.0L??????
I probably gonna buy one at 130,000+ miles since the previous owner/dealer definitely rebuilt transmission. Save some cash. I'm considering between this and the E60 for my sister. Nonetheless, I can play with these car more since they have tons of mod than the later model.
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Old 11-03-2012, 12:18 PM
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After reading alot of these X5 E53 threads Im sad to say Im no longer going to pull the trigger on a BMW suv Hardly anything good said about it. At least E39 has alot of good stuff,but when your INDY says you will be in trouble with most X5s ... IM not going to worry with the headache. Looks like a Lexus RX 330 is in the near future for my wife
Thanks for the info on this side of the site.

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