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Old 10-05-2012, 04:17 AM
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E90 clutch

Hi guys, am about to buy a e90 manual, very good service history except one thing:

The clutch (and dual mass flywheel) has been replaced 3 times in 60000km. The car is now on 75 and still has motorplan.

It was a female driver. My suspicion is that she rode the clutch but could there be another issue I should be careful about?

The car is from an official BMW dealer and still on motorplan.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:30 AM
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Not sure about what else could cause the clutch to fail/wear out quite so prematurely aside from very bad technique on the driver's part, but I'd definitely want to spend extra time test driving that car before purchasing to satisfy myself that the clutch feels and operates as it should, and that the car shifts smoothly. Was the clutch replaced about every 20K km (in which case it might be due for #4 soon???) or was there a series of replacements in close proximity to each other for some reason?

Was the car serviced at the dealer you're buying it from? If so, have you talked to the Service dept. and specifically asked what was behind all those clutch replacements?
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:35 AM
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The clutch was replaced every 20000km and has done 18000km since the last chance. The car was serviced at various official BMW dealerships and still has motorplan which would cover for the clutch to be replaced within the next 1.5 years or 22000km.

The dealer suggested that it most probably was due to a driver who didnt know how to use a clutch
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Old 10-09-2012, 06:48 AM
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E90 has extremely long clutch travel compared with previous BMW models and because of that some drivers have a hard time to avoid clutch slip. Less than one year after I sold my 2008 335i Convertible the new owner notified me that he had the clutch replaced because it was slipping. Thankfully still unter waranty. I have 3 other BMW with manual transmition so I am experienced with proper shifting but I had to change my clutch depression timing everytime I driven E90. I got my 2012 335is in September. I purchased clutch stop and modified Clutch Delay Valve even before I received the vehicle. I installed clutch stop in less than 5 minutes and it had such significant positive effect that I will not need to install clutch delay valve. I would highly recommend it. It was the best $10 I spent in a long time.
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Old 10-09-2012, 08:13 AM
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The dealer suggested that it most probably was due to a driver who didnt know how to use a clutch
+1000. Burning up one clutch after only 20,000km (~12,000mi!) could have been a mechanical problem. Shredding three at that same regular interval fairly screams of incompetence (and lack of desire or ability to learn ).

Personally, I would avoid that car. The last clutch replacement was ~18,000km ago and it has had a new clutch every ~20,000km ... simple math suggests the current clutch is about 90% gone. Trouble is, if you are even moderately competent driving a manual and drive less than ~15,000km a year, you will probably run out the 1.5yr/22,000km replacement coverage before the clutch is done--and then replacement will be on your dime.

If you opt to chance it, I suggest you set aside money every month in a "new clutch" fund starting from day one, 'cause odds are you'll need a new one at 1.5 years + 1 day or 22,001km--whichever comes first.
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Old 10-09-2012, 09:41 AM
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just interested to know how much a clutch replacement is?
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Old 10-11-2012, 06:07 PM
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The clutch was replaced every 20000km and has done 18000km since the last chance. The car was serviced at various official BMW dealerships and still has motorplan which would cover for the clutch to be replaced within the next 1.5 years or 22000km.

The dealer suggested that it most probably was due to a driver who didnt know how to use a clutch
So the solution is clear: If you buy the car, you need to loan it to the original owner for about 2000km to kill the current clutch, get it replaced, and you're good to go!

Not sure what the clutch replacement runs on these cars but to give you an idea, I can tell you it cost me about 2 grand at an independent shop to install a new OEM clutch and dual-mass flywheel on my old VW Passat.

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Old 10-11-2012, 11:20 PM
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So the solution is clear: If you buy the car, you need to loan it to the original owner for about 2000km to kill the current clutch, get it replaced, and you're good to go!

Not sure what the clutch replacement runs on these cars but to give you an idea, I can tell you it cost me about 2 grand at an independent shop to install a new OEM clutch and dual-mass flywheel on my old VW Passat.
Clutch is covered for 22000km or 1.5 years so that should be fine :-). Cost to replace is R10000 where I am which works out to about $1250
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