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Old 10-17-2012, 05:16 AM
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tire choices, but different

this topis has been beat to death I know, but I have different needs/wants in my tires than most people on here so Im hoping somebody can give me some choices!

my scorpions are getting close to being done, so I am obviously tire shopping, I live in the PNW so cold rain is the norm, along with snow once or twice a year.

I drive lots of curvy roads and even drive down dirt roads pretty regularly.

I like my scorpions, but I honestly feel they are overpriced for what they are.
I have PSP's on my CLK500...pretty good tire.

I CARE about load rating (I tow my race bike trailer all over, about 1000-1200 pounds loaded with my bike and tools) and I CARE about wet handling (curvy roads in the olympic peninsula in the rain heading to surf spots in the winter)

COST is an issue, I WILL NOT spend more than the Scorpions (and I really dont want to spend that much)

I DO NOT care about treadwear (much), noise or harshness. Id be driving a caddy if those were my concerns.
(for reference my last vehicle was a lifted Nisasn titan with 33's that were over 13" wide)

so start throwing out the suggestions...I was looking at the Conti DWS, but they seem to be eternally backordered.
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:35 AM
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Old 10-17-2012, 05:39 AM
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they are back ordered through tirerack, who else has them for a comparable price that are actually in stock?
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Old 10-17-2012, 06:25 AM
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Since your in the PNW head over to les Schawb and look at the Toyo Turevo ls 2 tires. I dropped a set of those on my x3 about 50k miles ago and have been super pleased with them. Very similar to the scorpions but about $30 a tire cheaper. Plus great in the rain and they can do extra sipping for you if you desire.
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Old 10-17-2012, 10:21 AM
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See if Gary's Tire Factory wants to sell you some Nokian WRG2's at a good price.

http://www.tirefactory.com/Product-D...temid=NT441658

Might still be close to the Scorpions in price, but you'd be more ready for that really big dump of snow that happens every few years.
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Old 10-17-2012, 09:11 PM
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thanks, Ill look into the Nokians, those look awesome!
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:04 AM
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anyone have any experience with Vredestein quatrac 3 tires? Found them online for just a little cheaper than Nokians, are they comparible?
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Old 10-18-2012, 04:38 AM
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this topis has been beat to death I know, but I have different needs/wants in my tires than most people on here so Im hoping somebody can give me some choices!

my scorpions are getting close to being done, so I am obviously tire shopping, I live in the PNW so cold rain is the norm, along with snow once or twice a year.

I drive lots of curvy roads and even drive down dirt roads pretty regularly.

I like my scorpions, but I honestly feel they are overpriced for what they are.
I have PSP's on my CLK500...pretty good tire.

I CARE about load rating (I tow my race bike trailer all over, about 1000-1200 pounds loaded with my bike and tools) and I CARE about wet handling (curvy roads in the olympic peninsula in the rain heading to surf spots in the winter)

COST is an issue, I WILL NOT spend more than the Scorpions (and I really dont want to spend that much)

I DO NOT care about treadwear (much), noise or harshness. Id be driving a caddy if those were my concerns.
(for reference my last vehicle was a lifted Nisasn titan with 33's that were over 13" wide)

so start throwing out the suggestions...I was looking at the Conti DWS, but they seem to be eternally backordered.
Yokohama Avid Envigor.. running them on my X3... and the run-flat version on my 328xi...very nice tire.
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Old 10-19-2012, 10:37 AM
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Being a native of the PNW and growing up on the west side of the mountains, I am very familiar with the road conditions you deal with. I just replaced my Pirelli's a month ago.

I found the Conti DWS on sale at Sears actually cheaper than buying through TireRack and including installation. While these are not typically a stock tire for Sears locally, they happen to have 4 as someone else didn't come in and pick their's up. If you're still interested in the DWS, give your nearest Sears a call to see what they can do. One way to do it is through their website first then connect with the local store.

Schwab was willing to order either the Conti or Michellens (sp? and I know they don't meet your cost requirements), but at a relatively high price. They did try to talk to me about the Toyo's, but I had already priced the Conti's lower.

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Old 10-19-2012, 08:35 PM
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cool, Ill give Sears a call. I called Tire Factory about the Nokians, but the cost is just too prohibitive, and they tried to sell me some Coopers which I am not interested in.
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Old 10-20-2012, 06:00 AM
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anyone ever heard of or used Cooper CS4 V rated tires? tread depot has them for a smoking bargain and the specs seem about the same as the Scorpions (treadwear, traction, load rating, etc)
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Old 12-09-2012, 02:13 AM
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Im down to just a couple weeks before I buy new tires, I really want the CONTI extreme DWS, but they are back ordered everywhere it seems. The Pirellis are my 2nd choice, the last one is the Conti Purecontact, does anyone have any experience with these?
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:48 AM
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How can you care about price and not care about treadwear?
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:50 AM
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Just installed Pirelli PZero Nero All Seasons yesterday. When I purchased vehicle few months ago for the wife that was tire that was on it. They were worn pretty even but down to 4/32's. So went to Discount tire & paid $670 cash/carry. Installed them were I work & balanced out really nice. Not much else to say as only have 30 miles on them so far.
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Old 12-09-2012, 10:07 AM
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Just installed Pirelli PZero Nero All Seasons yesterday. When I purchased vehicle few months ago for the wife that was tire that was on it. They were worn pretty even but down to 4/32's. So went to Discount tire & paid $670 cash/carry. Installed them were I work & balanced out really nice. Not much else to say as only have 30 miles on them so far.
I just put the P Zero Neros on on Friday. They received good testing results during one of the Tire Rack's comparison tests. The price was really good on the 18's, too.

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Old 12-09-2012, 08:28 PM
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How can you care about price and not care about treadwear?
all the tires I am looking at have the same/higher treadwear rating than the Pirelli's.
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Old 12-09-2012, 09:40 PM
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From TireRack's technical info:

The problem with UTQG Treadwear Grades is that they are open to some interpretation on the part of the tire manufacturer because they are assigned after the tire has only experienced a little treadwear as it runs the 7,200 miles.
This means that the tire manufacturers need to extrapolate their raw wear data when they are assigning Treadwear Grades, and that their grades can to some extent reflect how conservative or optimistic their marketing department is.
Typically, comparing the Treadwear Grades of tire lines within a single brand is somewhat helpful, while attempting to compare the grades between different brands is not as helpful.


Sounds similar to the problem that Kia has in proclaiming their fuel consumption ratings?
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Old 02-19-2013, 09:13 PM
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just wanted to throw out an update to this, just had some Goodyear Eagle GT's installed last week, Im pretty impressed so far, not much different feeling than the scorps I had on there, but ride a little smoother and seem to have higher cornering limits.
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