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Old 02-01-2016, 12:14 PM
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Integration level (I-Step / I-Level) update

Hi,

I can't seem to find a definitive answer on this, but is it possible to perform FULL integration level updates using E-Sys and a battery loader, or do you need ISTA/P, an ICOM device and a battery loader to do so?

My F22 is currently at NBT_K, but I understand that NBT_L is available in v.57.3 full?

I'm not sure if there are any guides available on this process?
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Old 02-01-2016, 10:28 PM
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You can perform a full update with E-Sys, PSdZdata Full, ENET cable, and Charger.
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Old 02-01-2016, 10:58 PM
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I know I have read threads were people asked dealerships to do it and it was done. I have ISTA/P and it is not that hard to get. I would ask @shawnsheridan.

I have two new 2016's (F15 and F10). One has NBT_K15072A and the other has NBT_L15184A. Do you know the difference?
I have Rhengold 3.53.13/ ISTA-P 3.57.4.003, but I do not have battery maintainer. My F10, which is NBT_K is I-Step F010-15-07-503.

Edit: oops, was writing message when Shawn already responded.

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Old 02-02-2016, 02:43 AM
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You can perform a full update with E-Sys, PSdZdata Full, ENET cable, and Charger.
Thank you, @shawnsheridan.

Would it be possible to provide me with the steps I need to take in order to perform an integration level update with E-Sys?

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I know I have read threads were people asked dealerships to do it and it was done. I have ISTA/P and it is not that hard to get. I would ask @shawnsheridan.

I have two new 2016's (F15 and F10). One has NBT_K15072A and the other has NBT_L15184A. Do you know the difference?
I have Rhengold 3.53.13/ ISTA-P 3.57.4.003, but I do not have battery maintainer. My F10, which is NBT_K is I-Step F010-15-07-503.

Edit: oops, was writing message when Shawn already responded.
I already had a look at ISTA/P, but I find it a bit awkward. Although it appears to be fairly straightforward, I suspect it's very easy to mess the car up.

I actually had my dealership perform an upgrade from NBT_B all the way up to NBT_K about 3 months ago. They were very helpful, but I believe this is something that I can also do myself.

As far as I know, BMW does not provide any change logs. For me, going from NBT_B to NBT_K resulted in improved ECO Pro mode experience (with the old firmware, ECO Pro was really, really sluggish) as well as much improved iDrive experience (iDrive firmware jumped up a lot of versions).
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Old 02-02-2016, 09:58 AM
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Thank you, @shawnsheridan.

Would it be possible to provide me with the steps I need to take in order to perform an integration level update with E-Sys?
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Old 02-02-2016, 12:06 PM
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Great, thanks again.

Now I just have to find a reliable source of power to keep the car alive during the flash process. Unfortunately, I know very little about power supplies and chargers. I did some digging around and found this affordable power supply: http://www.maas-elektronik.com/MAAS-...-Ampere.2.html

It can do 50A and DC 13,8V. Does anyone know if this is sufficient for a 2014 F22? Alternatively, I could hook the car up with a MB C180 Kompressor, but I don't really feel comfortable doing that at all.

EDIT: I plan on flashing the ECUs one by one instead of all at once (so maybe I can get away with 50A?). I intend to determine the prerequisites for each ECU first and then create a list. Finally I then flash them one by one (the ones without prerequisites first and the rest last of course).

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Old 02-02-2016, 12:33 PM
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Great, thanks again.

Now I just have to find a reliable source of power to keep the car alive during the flash process. Unfortunately, I know very little about power supplies and chargers. I did some digging around and found this affordable power supply: http://www.maas-elektronik.com/MAAS-...-Ampere.2.html

It can do 50A and DC 13,8V. Does anyone know if this is sufficient for a 2014 F22? Alternatively, I could hook the car up with a MB C180 Kompressor, but I don't really feel comfortable doing that at all.

EDIT: I plan on flashing the ECUs one by one instead of all at once (so maybe I can get away with 50A?). I intend to determine the prerequisites for each ECU first and then create a list. Finally I then flash them one by one (the ones without prerequisites first and the rest last of course).
That Power Supply should be fine.
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That Power Supply should be fine.
Alright, thanks
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Old 02-02-2016, 06:25 PM
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can I also have the instructions Shawn
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Old 02-03-2016, 11:54 AM
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Great, thanks again.

Now I just have to find a reliable source of power to keep the car alive during the flash process. Unfortunately, I know very little about power supplies and chargers. I did some digging around and found this affordable power supply: http://www.maas-elektronik.com/MAAS-...-Ampere.2.html

It can do 50A and DC 13,8V. Does anyone know if this is sufficient for a 2014 F22? Alternatively, I could hook the car up with a MB C180 Kompressor, but I don't really feel comfortable doing that at all.

EDIT: I plan on flashing the ECUs one by one instead of all at once (so maybe I can get away with 50A?). I intend to determine the prerequisites for each ECU first and then create a list. Finally I then flash them one by one (the ones without prerequisites first and the rest last of course).
If you plan on flashing all of them why not let E-Sys do the dependency calcs and flash them in the correct order.
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Old 02-03-2016, 01:37 PM
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If you plan on flashing all of them why not let E-Sys do the dependency calcs and flash them in the correct order.
Mhm, yeah, might as well do that.
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Old 03-11-2016, 12:12 PM
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Could you PM me those details as well please Shawn? Thanks very much.
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Old 03-11-2016, 12:21 PM
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Great, thanks again.

Now I just have to find a reliable source of power to keep the car alive during the flash process. Unfortunately, I know very little about power supplies and chargers. I did some digging around and found this affordable power supply: http://www.maas-elektronik.com/MAAS-...-Ampere.2.html

It can do 50A and DC 13,8V. Does anyone know if this is sufficient for a 2014 F22? Alternatively, I could hook the car up with a MB C180 Kompressor, but I don't really feel comfortable doing that at all.

EDIT: I plan on flashing the ECUs one by one instead of all at once (so maybe I can get away with 50A?). I intend to determine the prerequisites for each ECU first and then create a list. Finally I then flash them one by one (the ones without prerequisites first and the rest last of course).
Did you try that power supply? How was it?

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That Power Supply should be fine.
Shawn - do you reckon a 30amp would be ok? Noticed this one on ebay, same manufacturer as wjjkoevoets was looking at but only 30amp:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QJPS30II-3...EAAOSwu4BV1yTt
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Old 03-11-2016, 12:23 PM
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... I could hook the car up with a MB C180 Kompressor, but I don't really feel comfortable doing that at all.
I know what you mean. I don't trust Mercs either
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Old 03-12-2016, 02:59 PM
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Did you try that power supply? How was it?

Shawn - do you reckon a 30amp would be ok? Noticed this one on ebay, same manufacturer as wjjkoevoets was looking at but only 30amp:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QJPS30II-3...EAAOSwu4BV1yTt
My guess is it will probably be fine.
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Hi shawn, also interested by your PM please.
Send my also if you have a more recent of your instructions (i have the v12) and some people ask me for it
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hi shawn could i have the instructions please

thanks
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Mhm, yeah, might as well do that.
Hello,

How did it go? Did you manage to upgrade your car's software?
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Send my also if you have a more recent of your instructions (i have the v12) and some people ask me for it
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Hi Shawn,

Can you please send me your flashing instructions?

Can you also give an answer to these questions?
1) Psdzdata latest version is 58.1
2) latest e-sys is 3.27.1 and good for flashing car?

Besides FDL coding, I coded VO with 5AD (LDW) because I already had all the hardware to use this. Also replaced the panel with the buttons to activate it. So I did not retrofitted any ECU modules
Do I have to recode my FA back to without 5AD (if so, do I also need to place the old button panel back), or can I just flash all ecu because there is no ECU/module retrofitted?

I haven't bought the PSU yet, first want to read more about flashing.

Thanks for your answer. Respect for all the time you spend on this great forum.
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Hi Shawn,

Can you please send me your flashing instructions?

Can you also give an answer to these questions?
1) Psdzdata latest version is 58.1
2) latest e-sys is 3.27.1 and good for flashing car?

Besides FDL coding, I coded VO with 5AD (LDW) because I already had all the hardware to use this. Also replaced the panel with the buttons to activate it. So I did not retrofitted any ECU modules
Do I have to recode my FA back to without 5AD (if so, do I also need to place the old button panel back), or can I just flash all ecu because there is no ECU/module retrofitted?

I haven't bought the PSU yet, first want to read more about flashing.

Thanks for your answer. Respect for all the time you spend on this great forum.
Yes, E-Sys 3.27.1 and PSdZData 58.1 are latest, and fine for flashing.

You should not have to worry about 5AD when flashing.
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Old 03-23-2016, 05:27 PM
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Yes, E-Sys 3.27.1 and PSdZData 58.1 are latest, and fine for flashing.

You should not have to worry about 5AD when flashing.
Thanks for your extreme fast reply. Good to know that I can flash without changing FA back.

If you are willing to pm your flashing guide, I will start reading this weekend.
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