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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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but... why? whats the point of that just wondering? is there some kind of advantage? or is it just a cleaner look? I dont want to do it just because you say so, I would like to make an educated decision.
The thermostat in the airbox opens when it gets too cold and allows warm coolant to flow to the throttle body to prevent freezing on the throttle body (little icicles and the like). Later on on OBD2 cars, BMW just got rid of the thermostat in the airbox and just connected the hose directly to the throttle body instead of waiting for that thermostat to fail, break, gets chunks of plastic in the lines, and start circulating plastic debris through the cooling system and causing a bigger problem.

It really is not needed, the thermostat in the airbox. However, if you re-route the thermostat, you'd need to get an airbox from a 9/96 - 99 OBD2 car so you don't have a hole in your airbox. Or you can make a plate to cover the hole and screw it on with the screw used to secure the thermostat on the airbox.
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The thermostat in the airbox opens when it gets too cold and allows warm coolant to flow to the throttle body to prevent freezing on the throttle body (little icicles and the like). Later on on OBD2 cars, BMW just got rid of the thermostat in the airbox and just connected the hose directly to the throttle body instead of waiting for that thermostat to fail, break, gets chunks of plastic in the lines, and start circulating plastic debris through the cooling system and causing a bigger problem.

It really is not needed, the thermostat in the airbox. However, if you re-route the thermostat, you'd need to get an airbox from a 9/96 - 99 OBD2 car so you don't have a hole in your airbox. Or you can make a plate to cover the hole and screw it on with the screw used to secure the thermostat on the airbox.
ah I see. well to be honest I dont think I'll do anything about it for the summer. I have an m52 swap planned in the future so I just want to drive this car for a while and not work on it every single day haha. but I'll put it on the list for the winter I think. thanks for the advice!
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Wow I can't believe it, the town I live in is literally all under water. The whole town is gone. It's insane here. Lucky for the e36 is at my shop the next town over. I'm at my in laws for the time being.


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Holy crap! That sucks! And it's also quite appropriate given the name of the town... Stay safe, and let us know if we can help in any way.
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Holy crap! That sucks! And it's also quite appropriate given the name of the town... Stay safe, and let us know if we can help in any way.
I'm guessing that's how the town originally got its name! Our thoughts are with you! Hope you didn't have too much damage at your place.....
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I'm guessing that's how the town originally got its name! Our thoughts are with you! Hope you didn't have too much damage at your place.....
thanks, the authority's say it will be weeks before the water is completely out of the town... and the snow in the mountains still hasnt melted... I have a feeling my whole town is F'd in the A.

I'm living with my wifes parents at the moment which is ok for now, I only have to drive 2 min to get to my shop from their house which is a bonus.

I'm going to work on the car a little bit tonight to try and get my mind off this crap. I'll post pics and what I get done later.

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Hey guys, So I'm finished everything, the last thing on my list is to add a liter or so of transmission fluid as some drained out when I disconnected the transmission cooler lines from the rad. so I look up all the information on how to add ATF in to the transmission and so on, jumped under the car and hmm.... theres only 1 pan... no sump pan... and no drain plug that resembles the one in the pelican manual. So, I keep looking for something that will identify this transmission. and found a tag that says "JATCO A5S300J" its a 5 speed auto built by "JApan Transmission COmpany" I had no idea japan made a transmission for the bmw 3 5 and 7 series in japan. completely different transmission then any of the books sold here and most of the forums I've seen. but I did find some info on what it is and how to add fluid(holds 8 quarts!!!what a beast!) and so on. here (http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/forum...086#post152086) there's a picture of what it looks like below. So ya if you ever buy a jap bmw they just might have a weird gear box. be warned

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Vacuum leak!!! the car will start but rev's to the moon if i would let it. any suggestions where to start looking?? not sure if there's something I missed... we will see
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Hang in there dude.
We've all been there.
I have to ask myself, what kind of f ing moron engineer puts the manifold on top of the vacuum lines?
Oh yea, the same guy who hid the starter, and used a crappy plastic cooling system.
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We've all been there.
I have to ask myself, what kind of f ing moron engineer puts the manifold on top of the vacuum lines?
Oh yea, the same guy who hid the starter, and used a crappy plastic cooling system.
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Valve cover is leaking, thermostat isnt doing it job.(I think I put it in backwards and it's seems to have an idling problem. No idea man, I'm so frustrated, think I'm going to park it for the weekend and pick it up again next week.
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One step at a time. Iv learned that e36 valve cover gaskets are worthless. Just double check all of your vacuum lines and plugs.

Also you noted that there was water in the spark plug wells. Maybe the water seeped down through the valve cover gasket and made the oil milky?

On a more positive note your thread is awesome! And I am looking forward to future posts.

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One step at a time. Iv learned that e36 valve cover gaskets are worthless. Just double check all of your vacuum lines and plugs.

Also you noted that there was water in the spark plug wells. Maybe the water seeped down through the valve cover gasket and made the oil milky?

On a more positive note your thread is awesome! And I am looking forward to future posts.

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Thank you, I checked my vacuum lines running to the rubber intake boot, found that when I replaced the old cracked one with a new bmw intake bootthis afternoon, I forgot to reattach that vacuum lines. So that's the idle problem solved. Now just the coolant leak front the front of the engine( looks like its from the thermostat housing ) and the oil leak on to the exhaust manifold from the valve cover gasket. I've heard horror stories about the victor renz valve cover gasket failing almost right after install, I thought maybe that was a rectified problem but I guess not.... I'm thinking of ordering one from BMW
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Yeah, just get the highest quality VCG and put some oxygen sensor safe RTV sealant on the right locations, torque down the cover in a center-out & criss-cross sequence in stages, and you should be fine. I've done two valve cover gasket jobs on these engines, and never had any issues afterward.

If you really did install the t-stat backwards, that would explain your coolant leak on the front of the engine. The t-stat o-ring needs to be facing outward (toward you) so that when you put the housing on top of it, it makes a seal. If you flipped the t-stat around so the o-ring is sealing against the engine, the t-stat housing won't have anything to seal with, and will definitely let coolant get out. Also remember that the t-stat will have an arrow which needs to be pointing straight up so it can vent properly.
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Yeah, just get the highest quality VCG and put some oxygen sensor safe RTV sealant on the right locations, torque down the cover in a center-out & criss-cross sequence in stages, and you should be fine. I've done two valve cover gasket jobs on these engines, and never had any issues afterward.

If you really did install the t-stat backwards, that would explain your coolant leak on the front of the engine. The t-stat o-ring needs to be facing outward (toward you) so that when you put the housing on top of it, it makes a seal. If you flipped the t-stat around so the o-ring is sealing against the engine, the t-stat housing won't have anything to seal with, and will definitely let coolant get out. Also remember that the t-stat will have an arrow which needs to be pointing straight up so it can vent properly.
Well, thank you. I'm remember to ask questions. Thanks a ton you guys.



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well... it really seems like a shot my self in the foot trying to save this m50 and not putting my time into the m52. I looked into the thermostat this morning and it was in there correctly but upside down. so now that works and i took it for a little run and I came back to a ton of white smoke out the exhaust! what the hell! such a waste of $350 and time. oh well at least I gained experience. I'm going to pull down the m52 and all the parts to convert the car to the 5 speed ZF and take a count of the parts I need for the swap. I'm not going to quit I WILL HAVE THIS CAR RUNNING!
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White smoke as in coolant burning? It could just be water burning off from the engine sitting for so long? I'm trying to hope here...

But, this M50 runs right? That great at least!
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White smoke as in coolant burning? It could just be water burning off from the engine sitting for so long? I'm trying to hope here...

But, this M50 runs right? That great at least!
it runs like a dream. but ya theres alot of white smoke... it gets worse the longer it runs
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Huh. That stinks. It must have a cracked head. iirc you didn't have it checked right?
I say drive it a bit more. You've got nothing to loose right?

At least you have the experience now of a head gasket rebuild! Now, for the M52....
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Huh. That stinks. It must have a cracked head. iirc you didn't have it checked right?
I say drive it a bit more. You've got nothing to loose right?

At least you have the experience now of a head gasket rebuild! Now, for the M52....
I didnt have it checked no. I dont want to drive it. it smokes white more then I cummins smokes black... gross. but I'm just going to park it and work on the m52 for a while, do everything right do a complete rebuild.
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