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E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 01-14-2014, 01:04 PM
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Valve stem seals done for $2500!

For those who don't know me.... I'm a BMW master tech located in Long Island, NY who has helped out many forum members here in the past (just do a search and you'll find me). I've been seeing many posts about the common valve stem seal issue with the N62 and N62TU engine. Symptoms include excessive oil consumption and severe smoking from the tail pipe. I'm offering to complete the repair for $2500 total (parts and labor). This includes both bank valve cover gasket sets and the updated valve stem seals of course. I would need 2 full days to complete the repair, I'm available on weekends (I work at the dealer during the week). Most dealers charge anywhere from $8,000 to $12,000 to have this done, so here's your chance to save a ton of cash! I've had someone drive over 12 hrs to meet me and to have the repair done, it was well worth it for that customer. You guys can post here or PM me. I'm also a forum regional sponsor, so my contact info is located in the section of the forum. Thanks!


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Old 01-14-2014, 05:31 PM
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Nice deal.

(For a moment I though someone went to the dealer for valve stem seals on their wheels.... )
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Old 01-14-2014, 06:19 PM
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Nice deal.

(For a moment I though someone went to the dealer for valve stem seals on their wheels.... )
Same here ... I was about to let the OP know that I did 4 OE valve stem (TPMS') for less than $150 ...

bmwoem1: what other services do you offer (on the weekends or otherwise)?

Thanx for reaching out to us
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Old 01-14-2014, 07:00 PM
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Valve stem seals done for $2500!

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Old 01-15-2014, 01:36 PM
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Excessive consumption and smoke can also be due to bad piston rings. That's how it was on my last car ('03 Altima). During that time, it cost more in engine oil than fuel to drive 200 miles.
When changing the valve stem seals, I was 90% sure pistons were the actual problem, but did anyways, as they cost nothing and I had some spare time. Changing the valve stem seals did not fix the problem, as expected, but was a great learning experience. Learned to tune timing belt, change valve cover gasket, etc. Even managed to drop the valve into cylinder and get it back!

Sorry for going off the topic.

Question: if someone brings the car with those symptoms, do you guarantee the fix, or only guarantee work on valve stem seals?
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Old 01-15-2014, 01:56 PM
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Old 01-15-2014, 01:59 PM
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I guarantee the fix, the results are immediate.... So I can't collect $ if the car is still smoking when I'm done. This issue is so common on this particular engine, it's pretty easy to diagnose.


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Old 01-15-2014, 02:53 PM
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Old 01-15-2014, 04:40 PM
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Just as my CPO expires, you post. It's like there's an angel smiling. I'll let you know when I need a repair. With the reliability of my X5, we'll probably be talking next week.
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Old 01-15-2014, 06:16 PM
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Just as my CPO expires, you post. It's like there's an angel smiling. I'll let you know when I need a repair. With the reliability of my X5, we'll probably be talking next week.
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:55 AM
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For those who don't know me.... I'm a BMW master tech located in Long Island, NY who has helped out many forum members here in the past (just do a search and you'll find me). I've been seeing many posts about the common valve stem seal issue with the N62 and N62TU engine. Symptoms include excessive oil consumption and severe smoking from the tail pipe. I'm offering to complete the repair for $2500 total (parts and labor). This includes new valve cover gaskets, new upper timing case cover gaskets and valve stem seals of course. I would need 2 full days to complete the repair, I'm available on weekends (I work at the dealer during the week). Most dealers charge anywhere from $8,000 to $12,000 to have this done, so here's your chance to save a ton of cash! I've had someone drive over 12 hrs to meet me and to have the repair done, it was well worth it for that customer. You guys can post here or PM me. I'm also a forum regional sponsor, so my contact info is located in the section of the forum. Thanks!


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wont a dealer cover this under warranty if presented with the right documentation, evidence and support?
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Old 01-16-2014, 09:57 AM
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It's covered under warranty..... This service is for the cars out of the warranty period


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Old 04-08-2014, 03:27 PM
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Old 12-29-2014, 05:56 PM
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You guys can PM me or email at bmwoem1@gmail.com to set up an appointment
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Old 12-29-2014, 07:50 PM
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So bmwoem1, what is the typical case that you are seeing? What's the average mileage or owner oil change habits? Curious if you are seeing any common thread with this known issue.
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Old 12-30-2014, 05:10 AM
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I've seen this issue as early as 50k miles. By 80k miles, I would say most N62/N62tu's will start consuming oil/smoking. Oil change intervals don't seem to have any affect on when the seals will start to fail. The original seals are made of poor material which cannot withstand the repeated heat cycles. The seals will eventually harden and allow oil to pass.
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Old 12-30-2014, 01:29 PM
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Hello and Questions

I am having the valve stem seals replaced by my local BMW dealer, on my E64.

They are removing the heads? They are only charging me $2600 since I just purchased the car 2 months ago.

Is it standard procedure to remove the heads to perform this job?

They are warranting the work for 2 years unlimited mileage, seems reasonable?

I was considering bringing to you if they had not come down on the price they quoted me 10K to begin with.

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Old 12-30-2014, 01:35 PM
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Old 12-30-2014, 03:49 PM
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I am having the valve stem seals replaced by my local BMW dealer, on my E64.



They are removing the heads? They are only charging me $2600 since I just purchased the car 2 months ago.



Is it standard procedure to remove the heads to perform this job?



They are warranting the work for 2 years unlimited mileage, seems reasonable?



I was considering bringing to you if they had not come down on the price they quoted me 10K to begin with.



Thanks Todd

The dealership will remove the heads since they have to do the repair "by the book".... You got a good price, are they goodwilling part of the repair? The 2 year warranty is a standard parts/labor warranty provided by BMW
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Old 12-31-2014, 12:36 PM
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The dealership will remove the heads since they have to do the repair "by the book".... You got a good price, are they goodwilling part of the repair? The 2 year warranty is a standard parts/labor warranty provided by BMW
Thanks, That is good to know, "by the book" and they are good-willing the rest.

I wondered if that was the standard BMW warranty for repairs.

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Curious why the dealer cost is so much? For 12k, it seems you could buy a new engine for that.

Even at dealer rate of 110/hr, that works out to over 100 hours of labor. That does not seem reasonable under any stretch.
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For 12k, it seems you could buy a new engine for that.
Not a chance. 13K might buy an NA, 3 liter, 6 cylinder. I'm guessing 20K for the 8 cylinder.

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That does not seem reasonable under any stretch.
Exactly why you want to avoid dealers.
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Vavle seals all fixed. BMWOEM1 !!!!!

I took my car to Anthony after contacting him on the forum and two days later I picked it up and I can't be happier. The man knows his job and he does his work fast with zero hassle. I normally would not hand over my car and a pocket full of cash to someone I have never met but once you meet the man you can tell that he is a man of integrity that you can trust. He replaced my valve seals and the gaskets as well as threw some new O-rings in my vacuum pump that was leaking slightly. Dropped it off 6pm on a Friday and picked it up at 11 Am Sunday. Car drives great and no more burning oil cloud or smell. If anyone is having doubts about contacting him about work, don't. He is the REAL DEAL , saved me 7k from what dealer wanted and the dealer would have had my car for at least a week. BMWoem1 is a God send to BMW owners in the Tristate area.

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Old 02-09-2015, 05:38 PM
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I've seen this issue as early as 50k miles. By 80k miles, I would say most N62/N62tu's will start consuming oil/smoking. Oil change intervals don't seem to have any affect on when the seals will start to fail. The original seals are made of poor material which cannot withstand the repeated heat cycles. The seals will eventually harden and allow oil to pass.
Just curious, are the new seals of the same poor material or an upgraded one?
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Old 02-10-2015, 05:10 AM
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The new seals which I use are upgraded.
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