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Old 11-25-2002, 07:58 PM
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Turn signal stalk for OBC

Ok I dont have the OBC on my 325iT. I want to change from Pic 1 to Pic 2. I called Pacific BMW and they gave me a part number 61-31-83-63-668. Can anyone confirm this for me please. Also does anybody know what I need to do to get it working on my car? I know how to install it that's no problem. I accidentally ran into it on some web page about someone doing the retrofit so I know someone has already done this.
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Old 11-25-2002, 07:59 PM
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Could you post the link to the web page you found about the retrofit?
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Old 11-25-2002, 08:01 PM
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Could you post the link to the web page you found about the retrofit?

That's the thing I cant find it anymore.
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Old 11-25-2002, 08:09 PM
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Patrick 320d had it retrofitted...
As I recall, it's only the stalk that needs to be installed.
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Old 11-25-2002, 08:13 PM
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That's the same PN I have. Its also the same PN as the stalk that comes in the euro 4cyl OBC retrofit kit (which includes some sticker, a cable assembly, and a temp sensor).

Since we know the temp sensor is already there, the question is whether just swapping in this part will work, or if it's going to need some MoDiC programming.
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Old 11-25-2002, 08:35 PM
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That's the same PN I have. Its also the same PN as the stalk that comes in the euro 4cyl OBC retrofit kit (which includes some sticker, a cable assembly, and a temp sensor).

Since we know the temp sensor is already there, the question is whether just swapping in this part will work, or if it's going to need some MoDiC programming.

Hopefully just the stalk and MoDiC work. Well if it needs MoDiC work what am I looking at here Kaz? I know different dealership do different things.
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Old 11-25-2002, 08:50 PM
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Hopefully just the stalk and MoDiC work. Well if it needs MoDiC work what am I looking at here Kaz? I know different dealership do different things.
Um, maybe you could find out and let me know.
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Old 11-25-2002, 08:55 PM
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Um, maybe you could find out and let me know.


Um...ok Wish me luck.
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Old 11-26-2002, 12:42 AM
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hey!

I wanted to order that kit when I was in Singapore. Yes, will need dealer's MODIC to initiate some programming. The kit is available on euro-BMW 4-cyclinder. Not sure if the parts will be different for 6-cyclinders.
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That's the same PN I have. Its also the same PN as the stalk that comes in the euro 4cyl OBC retrofit kit (which includes some sticker, a cable assembly, and a temp sensor).

Since we know the temp sensor is already there, the question is whether just swapping in this part will work, or if it's going to need some MoDiC programming.

I got the part the other day But how do I know I have the temp sensor??? Where is it located?? I'm going to install this weekend.
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Old 12-09-2002, 12:04 AM
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Ooh, what did the part cost? I was planning on ordering one this week. The car already has the temp sensor behind the front bumper so no need to worry about that.
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Old 12-09-2002, 12:13 AM
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huh? Isn't that an Euro part number?

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Ooh, what did the part cost? I was planning on ordering one this week. The car already has the temp sensor behind the front bumper so no need to worry about that.
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Old 12-09-2002, 12:27 AM
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huh? Isn't that an Euro part number?
The kit is. Who needs the stinkin' kit?
The stalk is the same so it has to be a valid US PN.
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Old 12-09-2002, 12:35 AM
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double huh....

The kit does include an extra wiring harness for the stalk that goes in the steering column. Remember I confirmed this back in April when I was in Singapore? I saw the kit. Reason why I didn't get it is the possibility of incompatibility with US models.

Then again....maybe the stalk will do.
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Old 12-09-2002, 12:37 AM
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Patrick 320d had it retrofitted...
As I recall, it's only the stalk that needs to be installed.
I think that you are right - everything else is most likely there.

Aus: can't you just take it to the dealer? Ok, that does take the fun out of the DIY idea.

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Old 12-09-2002, 12:42 AM
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Huh? I thought the wiring harness in the kit was for the temp sensor.
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Old 12-09-2002, 12:48 AM
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Hrm...that was what I thought initially.

Here was what I observed: I had a chance to install the paddle-shift kit in Singapore on a BMW that has OBC. So I noted the number of cables behind the OBC stalk and compared that to mine when I got back. Yes, the OBC stalk has a couple more cables. Or rather the connector has more wires coming out.

I have to find the diagram I drew a while back....

Maybe Patrick can shed some light here again...
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Old 12-09-2002, 01:09 AM
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Darn it! Just when I needed that piece of diagram...and I can't find it...

But here's a piece of promising info. I was looking through my euro 3er accessories catalog and under OBC, it lists:

OBC (w/o air conditioning) 62.13.0.015.965
OBC (w/ air conditioning) 61.31.8.363.668

So, maybe you're right, do need the kit just the stalk!
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Old 12-09-2002, 01:18 AM
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OBC (w/o air conditioning) 62.13.0.015.965
OBC (w/ air conditioning) 61.31.8.363.668
See, the top PN is the kit which includes:
01 29 0 017 969 stick on label
61 11 8 374 310 retrofit cable set, on board computer
61 31 8 363 668 switch turn signal dip-dim control
65 81 6 905 133 temperature sensor
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Old 12-09-2002, 01:22 AM
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I know that's the kit. Not a lot of part numbers we need start with 62. Fact now is whether 61 11 8 374 310 is needed.

What's interesting though is how they list it as w/ and w/o air con. So, those equipped with air-con have the temp sensor?

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See, the top PN is the kit which includes:
01 29 0 017 969 stick on label
61 11 8 374 310 retrofit cable set, on board computer
61 31 8 363 668 switch turn signal dip-dim control
65 81 6 905 133 temperature sensor
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Old 12-09-2002, 01:27 AM
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What's interesting though is how they list it as w/ and w/o air con. So, those equipped with air-con have the temp sensor?
Hmm, did the car you worked on in SG have knob HVAC or auto? It would make sense for the auto AC to require the ext temp sensor for something that the knob one doesn't have.
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Old 12-20-2002, 10:51 PM
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I got the part the other day But how do I know I have the temp sensor??? Where is it located?? I'm going to install this weekend.
Sup, bro?

I think the temp sensor is located underneath the front bumper under the car. I saw something peculiar sitting there when I was installing my CAI. It was protruding out from underneath and was connected by a wire running up towards the engine compartment. Then again, I could be wrong.
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i have been sucessful @ getting the obc function on a non obc car ... IM if you have any ?'s


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Old 12-23-2002, 01:53 PM
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I think its been determined that the stalk is all that's needed. What we need to know is what function specifically we have to ask to be enabled in DIS/MoDiC by the dealer...

I should be getting my stalk this week.
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I think its been determined that the stalk is all that's needed. What we need to know is what function specifically we have to ask to be enabled in DIS/MoDiC by the dealer...

I should be getting my stalk this week.
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