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Old 08-18-2015, 03:22 PM
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Oil Change Quotes

Just called around to local BMW dealerships to see what oil changes will cost now that I am no longer under the free maintenance.

SouthBay BMW - $330
Santa Monica BMW - $220
Long Beach BMW - $150 + 150 for DEF

I asked each if they did the value service:$79.99. They said no. http://bmwvalueservice.com/#

I laughed at the first two. Told the third about the coupon on their website and he said he would honor that price but DEF would still be an additional $150.

Where do you SoCal guys (out of free maint) get your cars serviced?
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Old 08-18-2015, 04:05 PM
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Old 08-18-2015, 04:47 PM
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I think I'd rather find a good indy shop and give them my money.
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Old 08-18-2015, 05:57 PM
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Long Beach BMW - $150 + 150 for DEF
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Even indies charge too much for DEF. Seems that, since it's a potentially hazardous thing, they have to treat it as such. Or they see it as a big money maker. It costs $10 for 2.5 gallons; do it yourself.
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Old 08-18-2015, 06:15 PM
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Oh I'd do the DEF myself. I'm too old to do oil changes.
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Old 08-18-2015, 08:40 PM
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Oh I'd do the DEF myself. I'm too old to do oil changes.
I'm almost certainly am older than you, and did an oil change a year ago. Hard to do now because we moved into a condo and don't have workspace to do it any more.
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Old 08-18-2015, 09:07 PM
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Oh I'd do the DEF myself. I'm too old to do oil changes.
The oil filters on top. You can get a fluid siphon from auto supply. Draws oil from dip tube, topside extraction. You don't have to climb underneath.

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Old 08-18-2015, 10:19 PM
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DEF is so easy....at least on the X5 it is. Does the 335d have both an active and passive tank?

Overall, for these things I'm totally for DIY.
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Old 08-19-2015, 05:25 AM
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Even indies charge too much for DEF. Seems that, since it's a potentially hazardous thing, they have to treat it as such. Or they see it as a big money maker. It costs $10 for 2.5 gallons; do it yourself.
DEF is not potentially hazardous! MSDS http://www.noxblue.com/products/NOxBLUE-msds.pdf

Hazardous Material Information Rating System (0 = least, 4 = extreme) Health 1, Flammability 0, Reactivity 0
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Old 08-19-2015, 06:57 AM
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Are those quotes with fuel filter or is it extra?
Glad I am able to DIY this stuff. Not to mention all the problems they find during their "courtesy safety inspections" where they basically list all problem areas for the car whether it's needed or not.
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Old 08-19-2015, 03:35 PM
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Try Charlie Kim at McKenna bmw. He did the value service oil change on my friends 335d oil and oil filter only for $120. Best price we have found thus far, and he is a good dude.

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Old 08-19-2015, 08:04 PM
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May be its CA thing. Last time I got my oil change for 99. They did DEF too but didn't charge coz I asked them not to do it and technician didn't see SA notes
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Old 08-20-2015, 01:47 PM
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Local indy quoted me $125 for the oil change, said he would check DEF. I'll post an update next week after the oil change.
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Old 08-22-2015, 12:00 PM
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It is extremely easy to change the oil on this car. I buy Total Quartz INEO Long Life ACEA/API 5W-30 Engine Oil for $36.99 per 5 qt jug, Hengst Oil Filter Kit Cartridge for $7.30, and BlueDEF DEF002 Diesel Exhaust Fluid - 2.5 Gallon Jug for $15.04 all from Amazon. Total cost per oil change is approx $62.00 including DEF. It takes me about 30 minutes and BTW I'm 62.
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Old 08-27-2015, 12:40 PM
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Got the car back from the indy shop.

~$150 for oil change
~$15 for a bottle of DEF.

Not bad. I'd go back.
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Old 08-27-2015, 12:46 PM
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I buy the oil and my tire shop charges me $15 to change it. No DEF in my cars, though.
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Old 08-28-2015, 12:57 PM
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These cars are so easy to change oil on that I couldnt imagine paying someone $150 to do it. There is a flap that opens for access to the drainplug and the filter is right on top within easy reach. Use a 1 1/4 socket to loosen the top, take it out, change the filter and gasket, add 7+ qts of LL04 oil and your done. Takes me less than 20 minutes.
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Old 08-28-2015, 01:09 PM
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It is extremely easy to change the oil on this car. I buy Total Quartz INEO Long Life ACEA/API 5W-30 Engine Oil for $36.99 per 5 qt jug, Hengst Oil Filter Kit Cartridge for $7.30, and BlueDEF DEF002 Diesel Exhaust Fluid - 2.5 Gallon Jug for $15.04 all from Amazon. Total cost per oil change is approx $62.00 including DEF. It takes me about 30 minutes and BTW I'm 62.
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These cars are so easy to change oil on that I couldnt imagine paying someone $150 to do it. There is a flap that opens for access to the drainplug and the filter is right on top within easy reach. Use a 1 1/4 socket to loosen the top, take it out, change the filter and gasket, add 7+ qts of LL04 oil and your done. Takes me less than 20 minutes.
Thanks for the info. Someday I might get off my lazy butt and do it myself.
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Old 08-29-2015, 07:33 PM
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These cars are so easy to change oil on that I couldnt imagine paying someone $150 to do it. There is a flap that opens for access to the drainplug and the filter is right on top within easy reach. Use a 1 1/4 socket to loosen the top, take it out, change the filter and gasket, add 7+ qts of LL04 oil and your done. Takes me less than 20 minutes.
Do you drive up on some ramps? I gave my ramps away a while back when I moved. I'm thinking about sucking the oil out from the top. So there is an easy flap underneath the drain plug?

P.S., I'll be 70 in a couple of months, but it's more not wanting the bother than a physical limitation for changing the oil. I used to do all my minor maintenance items before including dampers, brakes, oil, etc., but have gotten a bit lazy.
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Old 08-30-2015, 04:47 AM
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Dealer wanted $335 to do an oil change. Coincidence? Why so much if its as easy as everyone says? Can I just order the oil and filters from Amazon? Is it hard to squeeze under the car?
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So there is an easy flap underneath the drain plug?
Yes, there is a flap. When I had the "free service", my dealer left off the flap. When I got home, I saw that it was missing. I called and they said they couldn't find it. They got me another one for free. Next free oil change, they did the same thing but this time I looked under there before leaving. I made sure the service advisor pointed out that they had done this before.

I'm likely a little obsessive compared to you guys but I remove the whole bottom tray when I do the oil change. When the oil is almost done running out the bottom, it starts to adhere to the pain and run backwards along pan and makes a mess on the undertray. The dealer had messed up my original undertray the same way. I had to replace this panel for an unrelated reason so I didn't want to get oil on there on the new one. I take the opportunity to look for oil leaks, coolant leaks, inspect the lines, etc from underneath. In other words, I make the most of pulling the tray to look for early signs of trouble. I wish I had access to a lift as this would be way faster.
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Dealer wanted $335 to do an oil change. Coincidence? Why so much if its as easy as everyone says? Can I just order the oil and filters from Amazon? Is it hard to squeeze under the car?
Coincidence with what, please?

It costs as much as it does because they can get it.

Yes, you can order the filters from AmaXon CAREFULLY, use the BMW RealOEM.com part numbers.

It is pretty expensive to ship liquids, AmaXon will make up their cost from you AND charge you your shipping too!

Buy oil locally if you can. If not, then find a specialty house to develop a relation with. I've used IDParts.com for more than 10 years.

Lots of folks use Rhino Ramps. I'll change my oil through the top, only going down under for the fuel filter.
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Old 05-20-2016, 02:26 PM
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You can get 8 quarts of BMW approved LL04 oil for $40. http://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/VAR966/VAR966
The filter is about $20. Total is $60 before taxes.

I never get under the car to change the oil. I use a TopSider instead. I paid $40 for mine at a boat supply store here in Atlanta. Here is the model that I have:
http://www.amazon.com/America-5060-T...s=topsider+oil
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Old 05-20-2016, 03:17 PM
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Yes, there is a flap. When I had the "free service", my dealer left off the flap. When I got home, I saw that it was missing. I called and they said they couldn't find it. They got me another one for free. Next free oil change, they did the same thing but this time I looked under there before leaving. I made sure the service advisor pointed out that they had done this before.

I'm likely a little obsessive compared to you guys but I remove the whole bottom tray when I do the oil change. When the oil is almost done running out the bottom, it starts to adhere to the pain and run backwards along pan and makes a mess on the undertray. The dealer had messed up my original undertray the same way. I had to replace this panel for an unrelated reason so I didn't want to get oil on there on the new one. I take the opportunity to look for oil leaks, coolant leaks, inspect the lines, etc from underneath. In other words, I make the most of pulling the tray to look for early signs of trouble. I wish I had access to a lift as this would be way faster.
I noticed the same thing so next oil change I used four jack stands so the car was level. Problem solved..no more backwards flowing oil and messed up undertray. These cars are so easy to work on that its amazing that so many people would rather get ripped by the dealer than to even try.
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