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Old 05-14-2016, 07:10 PM
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Valvoline LL04 on sale

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To the end of this month, Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W40 MST is on sale for $5 per quart at the Napa store. The oil has the BMW LL04 approval
http://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/VAR966/VAR966
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Old 05-15-2016, 04:35 PM
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Old 05-20-2016, 08:30 PM
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FYI
To the end of this month, Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W40 MST is on sale for $5 per quart at the Napa store. The oil has the BMW LL04 approval
http://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/VAR966/VAR966

Brand Valvoline
Item Weight 11.8 pounds
Product Dimensions 4.2 x 2.6 x 9 inches
Origin China
Item model number VV966
Manufacturer Part Number VV966


Its made in China....I'll pass
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Old 05-21-2016, 04:21 AM
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Brand Valvoline
Item Weight 11.8 pounds
Product Dimensions 4.2 x 2.6 x 9 inches
Origin China
Item model number VV966
Manufacturer Part Number VV966


Its made in China....I'll pass
Where do you find here it is made? $4.99/qt is a pretty good price for sure.
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Old 05-21-2016, 04:38 AM
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I just now glanced through a history of Ashland Oil and Valvoline and saw no evidence of a Chinese source. A knockoff maybe?

I found this for that particular product, also with no mention of China
http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/content/GenuinePartsCompany/726022pdf?$PDF$

I did notice the LL-04 specification and for "gasoline engines."

We pass an Ashland Co. refinery on our travels. Of course, that's Dino-oil. Maybe China is selling synthetic base stock.
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Old 05-21-2016, 06:05 AM
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I stick with Mobil 1. No idea where it is made though?

Pretty much everything is made in China now days.

10 years ago I wanted to buy a high quality gas grill. Read about a brand called Vermont Castings (made in Vermont right?), and it was a bit pricey for a basic BBQ Grill. Bought it at Home Depot, brought it home and when I opened the box, "Made in China". I felt decepted (sp?).

It turned out to be a pretty well made grill after all but the company went bankrupt, apparently due to stiff competition from the cheaper "made in china" grills.
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Old 05-21-2016, 06:17 AM
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On my obsolescent Windoze computer I have a list of websites that themselves list purveyors of exclusively American made products. Not everything is pre-made in America.

That's why, for instance, I have a cabinet full of reasonably common household chemicals in the garage.

There's a fun little e-book, maybe the first one I bought, Why Is There Anti-freeze in My Toothpaste or some such. Very enlightening.
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Old 05-21-2016, 06:18 AM
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I just now glanced through a history of Ashland Oil and Valvoline and saw no evidence of a Chinese source. A knockoff maybe?

I found this for that particular product, also with no mention of China
http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/content/GenuinePartsCompany/726022pdf?$PDF$

I did notice the LL-04 specification and for "gasoline engines."

We pass an Ashland Co. refinery on our travels. Of course, that's Dino-oil. Maybe China is selling synthetic base stock.
Does the LL04 mean that it would be ESP? I recall our cars require a low ash oil lest we foul up the DPF? I recall buying Mobil 1 that states it was ESP.

This is what I have been using to top off with in between OCIs: It is almost $13.00/qt, maybe $107/case of 12.

http://www.amazon.com/Mobil-5W-30-Sy.../dp/B00IJP5972
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Old 05-21-2016, 06:47 AM
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FYI
To the end of this month, Valvoline SynPower SAE 5W40 MST is on sale for $5 per quart at the Napa store. The oil has the BMW LL04 approval
http://www.napaonline.com/napa/en/p/VAR966/VAR966
Montr,

Although it indicates LL04, the specification says it for "gasoline" engines.

I would stick with an ESP formula like Mobil 1 to avoid issues with the DPF. The Mobil 1 ESP is about $9.00/qt at Napa, which is still a good price compared with others like Pep Boys. I find the ESP is hard to find.

It is also made in USA!
Brand
Mobil 1

Model
103469-12PK

Item Weight
24.6 pounds

Product Dimensions
15.2 x 9.2 x 8.9 inches

Origin
USA

Item model number
103469-12PK

Manufacturer Part Number
103469-12PK
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Old 05-21-2016, 06:55 AM
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OK,

I have the spec sheet. They make two types, with ILSAC and without ILSAC. Without ILSAC is for Diesel Engines with DPF and is ESP.

Hard to say which one it is being offered for sale a Napa?

It appears to be the MST which is the correct one for Diesel Engines. Very cheap price, wonder why?
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Old 05-21-2016, 07:08 AM
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Where do you find here it is made? $4.99/qt is a pretty good price for sure.
On the Amazon listing for that oil under Technical Details.

i use Total Quartz INEO Long Life ACEA/API 5W-30 Engine Oil - 5 Quart $35.86 from Amazon

Possesses the most current specifications and is known as a "new generation" oil throughout Europe; It is especially adapted to German diesel technology although it can be used on gasoline engines as well
Specially approved by VW, Audi, Mercedes-Benz and BMW; Developed using TOTAL's advanced Low SAPS Technology to increase the longevity of the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) and provide extended drain intervals while being environmentally friendly
ACEA C3
Meets: VOLKSWAGEN VW 504.00/507.00 and retroactive applicability: VW 502.00/505.01, VW 502.00/505.00, VW 501.01/505.00; BMW LL-04 - and BMW LL-01 retroactive; MERCEDES-BENZ MB-Approval 229.51 - and MB-229.31 retroactive; PORSCHE C30
Here is its Amazon Technical details

Brand Total
Model 188058-5QT
Item Weight 9.7 pounds
Product Dimensions 11.2 x 9.3 x 4.9 inches
Origin France
Item model number 188058-5QT
Manufacturer Part Number 188058-5QT
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Old 05-21-2016, 09:18 AM
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Very happy with Rotella T 5/40 in the gallon jugs, $17 from amazon with subscription, which can just be one jug every six months if you don't drive a lot. Of course that is after my car forgot to spell.
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Old 05-21-2016, 10:07 AM
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Brand Valvoline
Item Weight 11.8 pounds
Product Dimensions 4.2 x 2.6 x 9 inches
Origin China
Item model number VV966
Manufacturer Part Number VV966


Its made in China....I'll pass
I do not know where you got this info.
The oil is for diesel engine, it is low Ash for the DEF and LL04 approved (it is on the list of approved oil for the 335d in BMW TIS) . Valvoline USA product datasheet say that is made in USA or Canada. The bottle clearly say that it is made in the USA
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Old 05-21-2016, 11:14 AM
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I do not know where you got this info.
The oil is for diesel engine, it is low Ash for the DEF and LL04 approved (it is on the list of approved oil for the 335d in BMW TIS) . Valvoline USA product datasheet say that is made in USA or Canada. The bottle clearly say that it is made in the USA
Ive already said that I got it from Amazons listing for the product. I made no claim as to the accuracy of Amazons listing.

http://www.amazon.com/Valvoline-SynP...productDetails
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Old 05-22-2016, 04:48 PM
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We are good guys,

This oil meets the spec. It is a very good price vs. others.

End of discussion, no?
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